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Walking Dead 3/11 (spoilers)
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It's about time Shane died. He was way too unhinged to be trusted with any kind of security. He's the crazy militia pre-cursor.
And again, Lori proves her inability to make a sane decision, parenting or otherwise. Little miss preggo calls a guy working on a windmill down to the ground just to toy with his already unstable emotions by admitting what she's been denying for weeks about having the hots for him along with the unknown paternity of her unborn child. Like an apology is what he's looking for.
AND WHY THE F#$@$% IS CARL IN THE FIELD??????
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Re: Walking Dead 3/11 (spoilers)
Agreed on all counts. I'm glad to see Shane go, although I will miss the eye candy
Here's a question that hopefully isn't too incredibly stupid. Why did Shane turn when he hadn't even been bitten? Isn't that the first time that's happened on the show, or am I forgetting something?
It happened to Randall too. Shane broke his neck, he wasn't bit. They must be getting infected by the water or air...or something.
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Carl is flipping ridiculous. No kid is that wily to sneak out over and over and over, constantly and consistently putting himself in harm's way. I realize it's a plot device that Hollywood loves, but mostly it drives me crazy because it happens too often to be credible.
Up to this point they've just been assuming you had to be bitten--I'm not sure that was discussed at the CDC and the person hanging said in his poetic suicide note that he "got bit"--but the last several episodes they've been slowly discovering people that died and turned without being bitten. The first clue was the policemen at the school that turned without bites. Now the kid, then Shane. I think it's supposed to be a virus that everyone has and activates at death, as per the comics. I might not be remembering that 100% correctly.
I may be the only one but I'm actually really mad that they killed Shane off. I love his craziness and I think the show may get kind of boring without him. Did he die in the comics? (I didn't read them)
I hate that Carl is always out and about. It's stupid and there's no way that it would really happen. I hope next week's episode is really good, otherwise I may just be giving this show up.
ETA: Does Rick bug anyone else? He didn't annoy me at first, but now I don't like him. I actually don't like most of the characters except for Daryl and Glen
I agree with you. Shane did die in the comics I believe. I'm pretty upset about it but that's probably because I just wanted more Jon Bernthal half-naked scenes... but that isn't the point.
I'm guessing the virus that turns people into zombies has evolved and is now airborne. Isn't that how it usually works in these types of things? It should get interesting now though.
Carl is ridiculous and Lori is just as bad. Where is she? Her kid keeps escaping (when the house is supposed to be on lockdown no less) and nobody notices. If I were in the zombie end of the world I doubt I'd let my kid out of my sight. Am I the only one that really hates Lori?
I'm w/everyone re: how Carl keeps getting out; incredibly frustrating! I'm also disliking Rick more and more as this season goes on and have always disliked Lori.
I'm not sure how Randall became a zombie; possibly what everyone's been implying about the virus now being airborne; poss. activating once natural death occurs.
However, with regards to Shane, I want to say that he contacted it while he was alive. I feel that towards the middle of the episode when we noticed Shane 'fighting' something; I think it was the onset of the virus (talking w/the others, becoming even more primitive than he already has been, hitting his head while in barn w/Randall, etc.) I think Shane contacted it through blood (roughly 2 or 3 episodes ago), when he was on that bus and stabbed the zombies in the head then opened up his hand w/the same knife.
ITO with this! My husband was yelling at the TV when that happened and was like "Alright Shane, you should be a zombie!!" Then it didn't happen and he was like ERROR. But now I guess it's people like my DH that figured things out sooner rather than later..lol
I have a weird feeling they are all infected and although I thought that man at the CDC told Rick that Lori was pregnant, I wonder if he told Rick that they are all infected. Seems kind of like a long shot, but that would be a great way to end it..Rick telling everyone, oh by the way, we are already infected.
I thought people had to be bit as well, but apparently that isn't the case anymore. I really liked this episode; it had a lot of action which I thought the show had been missing lately.
Oh my gosh, next weeks episode with all of those zombies...should be good. I've been waiting for something like that to happen for a while.
Am I the only one who thinks Maggie needs to keep it in her pants? She seems more concerned with getting Glen to pay attention to her than she does anything else.
I posted over on PCE. So other than serious lack of parenting on Lori's (and Rick's) part, and the fact we will no longer get to see any shirtless Shane scenes (sad), the only other thing I wanted to add was about the virus itself - anyone else noticing that the zombies seem to be getting stronger? Shane, and Randall for that matter, were more like I Am Legend zombies than the staggering, wandering through the field zombies we've been seeing.
And i forgot about the guy at the CDC and what he whispered to Rick. Could have been about Lori. Could also have been about the virus and that they were all already infected. I do kind of doubt that though - cause Rick seems to still have hope.
I don't really care for any of the characters. Maybe Daryl. Still - I don't really like any of the characters on Mad Men (other than Peggy) either and I love that show.
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Alright. Make sense.
One other thing - anyone else surprised that Rick stabbed Shane? I was expecting Daryl to take Shane out with an arrow - since he had figured out what had happened with Randall and was on his way to find Rick and Shane.
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Great points! I'll have to agree that he could easily have infected with the cut on his hand. I think he knew he'd become a zombie (and if you watch Talking Dead they talked about this briefly) how Shane didn't want to die of the zombie disease so he was psyching Rick out trying to get him to shoot him and put him out of his misery.
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I agree. I don't love Shane, but that's sort of the point. I feel like they lost so much of the storyline and the whole protagonist/antagonist thing. Although I get that the protagonist isn't such a good guy anymore.
I haven't read the books but apparently in those, Shane drew a gun on Rick and then Carl shot him.
I'm not sure what's going on with all of the dead becoming zombies, but that definitely seems like a new thing (or at least one that hasn't been pointed out before). Like someone else mentioned, I think the first time we really saw it was with the cops when they were trying to leave Randall.
And I must have completely forgotten anything about the CDC because I don't even remember any whispering taking place. Too damn long between eps and I have no mind.
ETA: If the dead become zombies even without getting bitten, wouldn't the 2 guys Rick killed in the bar have turned into zombies, too? Shane seemed to do so pretty damn quickly, which is why I think this is a "newer" thing.
That is a good possibility, but I think one of the guys got shot in the head, so he wouldn't come back. The other guy got shot just in the chest so it's possible he would come back, but they were in the bar for awhile so maybe they weren't infected yet if it's airborne.
Did anyone see the Talking Dead a couple weeks ago? Someone called in asking about Shane getting infected, because when Shane was trapped on the school bus, he cut his hand with a dirty knife so he could wipe his blood on the door.
So the transformation wasn't quick. And I think he was already transforming when he went into the barn to kill the prisoner - remember he was hitting himself in the head?
What I don't understand is the prisoner transforming so quickly. I guess maybe he was infected way back too?
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I do not for one second believe that Shane's behavior in the barn had anything to do with infection. That jackass wasn't fighting his demons, he was harnessing his demons.
ETA: We saw someone die a slow death after being infected. It manifested with fever and weakness, like a flu or pneumonia. Not homicidal plotting.
I agree that I don't think Shane's crazy behavior had anything to do with being infected. I think that was all him. I'm really glad he died. He was out of control.
I don't know what Lori was thinking by telling Shane the things she did. I think it's interesting that Lori and Rick will be in Hershel's room now. Lori seems like she enjoys being the Queen bee and will take full advantage of it now. I think the others will grow more irritated with her too. Although I don't really like Andrea I do like that she isn't afraid to tell Lori what she thinks. Lori still has her son, husband and is pregnant when the others have all lost their closest ones so I think this will become more of an issue later on.
I'm also baffled as to how often Carl can sneak away. On the Talking Dead they mentioned something about them not wanting to take away too much of Carl's freedoms because he's a kid but I don't buy that. There are zombies crawling everywhere and how many people have they seen die? They can't keep a better eye on that kid?
I think the dead returning as zombies might have something to do with being bloodborne. I noticed they made a point to show Randall's cut up wrists from the handcuffs. Was he in the same barn that the zombies were kept in on the farm? Maybe he got infected that way?
Also, when Rick and Shane were at the jail and they saw the cops they commented that there were no bite marks but there were scratches. Since shane used the knife to cut his hand maybe he got infected that way.
I thought when they were at the CDC didn't the guy say something about there was no standard time that people would reanimate? I vaguely remember something about him saying some people took only minutes to reanimate and some took much longer and they were not sure why.
I guess they plan on being hold up at the farm house for a while, unless it's over come by zombies next week. I'm looking forward to the finale.
Good riddance to Shane. Crazy mofo.
The fact that you turn when you die, whether you are bitten or not, is something the books get into. Shane wasn't infected when he was in the bus. They were all infected way before that.
I'm on board with the theory that that's what Jenner told Rick at the CDC. I also think that's why Rick used a knife to kill Shane (rather than shooting him in the head when he had the chance). He wanted to see if it was true. Sho 'nuff, zombie Shane.
As far as Lori goes, she's such an attention whore. It's her fault Shane went nuts, and her little 'oh, yeah, this kid could be yours. Doesn't that suck?' talk with him was obviously what sent him over the edge. I'm so tired of her.
On a more positive note: T-Dog got some lines. That was nice. "Aw, hell naw!"
It's about to go down next week. There's no way they'll all get out of there alive, and though the preview for next week seems to hint that Herscel bites it, I really hope they keep him around for their, um, next venture. He's an asset.
Even though I've read the books, the end of this season is still throwing me for a loop. (I'm still reeling from them killing Dale in a much lamer way than they do in the comics.) I'm so pumped for next week!
This was a big rambling mess, but that's kind of where my brain is after last night's ep.
My theory is that Shane was infected through the cut on his hand. Randall had cut his wrists from trying to escape the cuffs. I have a feeling that is why they showed that in the barn scene. When Shane grabbed him, his self inflicted cut cross contaminated Randall's blood stream and he was infected.
Has anyone seen the original "Night of the Living Dead"? After seeing next week's preview, I think they might be setting us up for an homage to the original Zombie flick (random, un-infected people holed up in an old farmhouse together keeping zombies at bay).
I agree about Herschel. I also think Maggie, and probably Andrea or T-Dog won't make it out from there. Oooh, even better "Zombie chow": Lori and Carl!
In the comics, Carl kills Shane. They bury Shane, and then Rick digs him back up to see if he had turned, which he did. Rick kills zombie Shane, and then leaves him to rot; said he wouldn't bury him twice.