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Let's talk overpriced photography...

Hi Girls!

Ok, i am probably going to get flamed by a person or two.

If you did a professional photo shoot (newborn for examples), did you somehow copy the images to make your own photo cards?  I think my photographer wants to charge like $2.50 per announcement card.  I don't mind buying some, but we really want to be able to share those photos with a lot of people.

Also, a friend of mine said she tried to scan her wedding photo at CVS and they yelled at her that she couldn't because it was professional.  Are these places really this strict?

I find it insane that they charge you like $1000 + for a cd with all your images, or like $250 per image! 

Re: Let's talk overpriced photography...

  • They are expensive, that's why we're not doing pro photos. Usually a professional puts some sort of watermark on the front or back of the photo and CVS won't copy them because it is illegal.  If you want something less expensive, check with local photography schools or just get a friend who is decent with a camera to take some pictures for you.
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  • Personally, I think it's ridiculous the amount people charge for CD's/images and I am starting to get into the photography business. 

    We live in a digital world so why not just include the cost of the CD in the price of the shoot?  A lot of my friends who are photographers do this.  They still offer products like albums and canvases but it's not required that you buy those in order to get your images.

    I personally would just find a photographer who did this because it's something that is important to me.  It really comes down to personal preference.  DH and I are getting couple's shots done in June and our photographer does personalized USB drives in a matching tin. 

    ETA: If you google looking for photographers you will come up with the most expensive in your area who most likely do products vs. CD's.  I found a whole group of photographers in my area that are AMAZING but because they aren't the most well known they never came up on google when I was looking for our wedding.  Once you find one you will start seeing a lot more.  Facebook is a great tool to use!

  • Find a package that includes a disk and rights to the photos. It's better to have a digital copy for reprinting than to have a hard copy and try to copy it, the quality isn't the same. We didn't get any hard photo's for our wedding. We recieved disks with our photos and full rights to do whatever we wanted with them. 
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  • imagecarcrashheart:
    Find a package that includes a disk and rights to the photos. It's better to have a digital copy for reprinting than to have a hard copy and try to copy it, the quality isn't the same. We didn't get any hard photo's for our wedding. We recieved disks with our photos and full rights to do whatever we wanted with them. 

    We got the rights to our wedding photos as well, and made copies.  Walmart tried to yell at us.

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    imagecarcrashheart:
    Find a package that includes a disk and rights to the photos. It's better to have a digital copy for reprinting than to have a hard copy and try to copy it, the quality isn't the same. We didn't get any hard photo's for our wedding. We recieved disks with our photos and full rights to do whatever we wanted with them. 

    We got the rights to our wedding photos as well, and made copies.  Walmart tried to yell at us.

    Well, yeah, because they don't know that you have the rights. I'm talking about getting digital copies. 

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  • I won't go with a photog who doesn't include the rights. I'm willing to pay more for the whole package/ shoot because I know I'm not going to have to pay $1k for a book of them. Our nb/1yr photog put a proof of rights document on our cd (it specifies for printing, online sharing and social networking sites) I never imagined having to actually pull it out bc the store said something, crazy!
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  • imagecarcrashheart:
    Find a package that includes a disk and rights to the photos.
    This.  We've done/are doing NB, 3 month, 9 month, and 12 month pictures and our photographer includes a CD with the price of the package, so about a week or 2 after each session we get the CD with his pictures.  This way I've been able to make photo cards and print what we want and how many we want since we have all rights to the pictures.  

    Our wedding photographer included the disks as well, and she put them in a case with an insert that states that we own all rights to the pictures.  We haven't had any problems printing wedding pictures.
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  • We paid $210 sitting fee and the CD was $95.  We have full printing rights of high res files and were given pics w watermarks for web use.

    But to answer your question - yes places are that strict.  I used to buy the prints from the photographer.  I suppose you could scan them if you want to put them online but know that's illegal.

    Id keep shopping.  My SIL only charges $125 for a session and CD w 15 images and $5 per image after. 

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  • That's completely normal.  I can see not allowing you to scan a pic because you obviously don't have the rights to the image.  We paid $900 for the rights to the pics.  I actually don't think it was that bad of a price.  For $250 we had a mini maternity shoot (3 hours) and a newborn shoot (5 1/2 hours).  We paid our wedding photog $6000 just for his time and editing the photos.  Granted we didn't have nearly as many photos to be edited from the maternity and newborn shoots, but still.  

    We could have paid $75 for 25 announcements, but since we bought the rights now I can do whatever I want with the pics.  We ended up doing announcements through tiny prints and we got 85.  

    What I do think is crazy, is that Walmart wouldn't print pics for me of our wedding even though I had the CD and the contract that said I would get a CD with the high res digital files.  They wanted a copyright release from the photographer, so 4 years later I had to go back and have our photog sign something.  Mpix doesn't do that, but it's online so if you want to get around it and try scanning a photo and then printing through mpix you could do that. 

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  • imagejennylove1084:

    We paid $210 sitting fee and the CD was $95.  We have full printing rights of high res files and were given pics w watermarks for web use.

    But to answer your question - yes places are that strict.  I used to buy the prints from the photographer.  I suppose you could scan them if you want to put them online but know that's illegal.

    Id keep shopping.  My SIL only charges $125 for a session and CD w 15 images and $5 per image after. 

    Where do you live again?  You have awesome pics, that's a GREAT price! 

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  • That's pretty standard. You shouldn't scan an actual print because yes, that's an illegal copy, so it's right of the stores to try to put a stop to that. As pps have said, you should buy the rights to the images. I include a release with all my packages that I send with the disc so if they go to make prints at a store, my clients aren't yelled at. 

    I offer 3 different portrait packages and they all include a disc with rights and a set of 4x6 prints so you always have actual prints that are good quality, and you can use the disc for whatever the heck you want. The thing to keep in mind if the prices seem outrageous is that you're not paying $X for just a disc, you're paying for the value of the images (how important they are, the photographers artistic vision and execution, etc). Years ago it was unheard of for clients to receive negatives of pictures to use as they wish, now things have changed and there's a price to pay to be able to use them as you wish. 

     

  • thanks ladies.  maybe i am just better off ordering the disc and doing it all on my own.  i already put down a deposit so i'm stuck.

    ETA:  just kidding apparently.  the disc with 25-30  images is $1500!  AHHHH!

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    thanks ladies.  maybe i am just better off ordering the disc and doing it all on my own.  i already put down a deposit so i'm stuck.

    ETA:  just kidding apparently.  the disc with 25-30  images is $1500!  AHHHH!

    YIKES.  $2.50 per announcement card is looking pretty good!

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  • We were able to purchase the CD with all the images and rights to print them for $250.  We then made our own announcements on shutterfly.

     ETA: our photographer included a signed release in the case stating we had rights to print them.  Our wedding photographer did this too. 

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  • Our CD was $375, but by the time we did prints (ridic expensive) and our birth announcements ($1.25 a peice), we would've spent way more than that.  We bought our CD and ordered prints from MPIX and birth announcements from snapfish. 
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  • imageKaiene:

    imagecarcrashheart:
    Find a package that includes a disk and rights to the photos. It's better to have a digital copy for reprinting than to have a hard copy and try to copy it, the quality isn't the same. We didn't get any hard photo's for our wedding. We recieved disks with our photos and full rights to do whatever we wanted with them. 

    We got the rights to our wedding photos as well, and made copies.  Walmart tried to yell at us.

    Walmart did this with my birth announcements.  They made me bring in the CD with the photo release on it before they would let me pick up my cards.

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  • I took pictures of my daughter at Christmas with a backdrop and sent DH to walmart to get them made into cards and they said they needed a photo release from the photographer and he said my wife took the pictures and they told him they could not print them w/o the release. He came home made up a really funny release and took it back in and they printed them!
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  • Lets talk overpriced restaurants too.

    I think I should just go to my favorite upscale restaurant and just have them give me the ingredients and then I'll go home and make my own dish.  No sense in paying $30 for an entree that I can get for $6, right?  

    Hmmm, then it just doesn't look the same or have the same experience either.

    Its kinda like a 17 year old teenager (I have one).  They think with 200 hours of experience, they are a great driver, when the reality is, it takes over 10,000 hours behind the wheel.  

    Highly skilled photographers aren't charging you for paper, but for years and years of experience, training, photoshop skills, design skills and providing an incredible fun time before, during and after the photoshoot.

    Plus they are in business and for any business owners out there they know about taxes, employees, insurance (in case of injury have you looked into the possibility of suing a part time photographer?  They aren't insured.), licenses, equipment and back up equipment, advertising, supplies, rent, heat, and the list goes on and on.  Business owners know what I'm talking about. :-)

    So, just hire one of the tons of newbies who will give you the cd for cheap-and btw,  good luck with that end result. 

    You will get "good enough" photographs perhaps, but it is a far cry from the product of a consummate professional who not only knows, but provides stellar lighting, posing, photoshop enhancement, and book design.

    Just like a do it yourself web site and do it yourself fancy meal.  It may be good enough, but it is hardly something that is incredible. 

    Its your money, but its also classic memories that you are giving up as well.
  • uoskier said:
    Lets talk overpriced restaurants too.

    I think I should just go to my favorite upscale restaurant and just have them give me the ingredients and then I'll go home and make my own dish.  No sense in paying $30 for an entree that I can get for $6, right?  

    Hmmm, then it just doesn't look the same or have the same experience either.

    Its kinda like a 17 year old teenager (I have one).  They think with 200 hours of experience, they are a great driver, when the reality is, it takes over 10,000 hours behind the wheel.  

    Highly skilled photographers aren't charging you for paper, but for years and years of experience, training, photoshop skills, design skills and providing an incredible fun time before, during and after the photoshoot.

    Plus they are in business and for any business owners out there they know about taxes, employees, insurance (in case of injury have you looked into the possibility of suing a part time photographer?  They aren't insured.), licenses, equipment and back up equipment, advertising, supplies, rent, heat, and the list goes on and on.  Business owners know what I'm talking about. :-)

    So, just hire one of the tons of newbies who will give you the cd for cheap-and btw,  good luck with that end result. 

    You will get "good enough" photographs perhaps, but it is a far cry from the product of a consummate professional who not only knows, but provides stellar lighting, posing, photoshop enhancement, and book design.

    Just like a do it yourself web site and do it yourself fancy meal.  It may be good enough, but it is hardly something that is incredible. 

    Its your money, but its also classic memories that you are giving up as well.
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