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with all this talk about speedwork...

I have a question. Tonight I am doing my first structured speedwork as per the Hal Higdon 5k intermediate plan which calls for 5 x 400 (actually thought 400 was .5 miles and was so relieved when I learned it is only .25 miles). I am planning on doing most speedwork on a track but the school has something going on tonight and my neighborhood is very hilly so I will be doing it on the dreadmill.

 My questions are...

Do you walk or slow jog the recovery, and is the recovery another 400 or is it shorter??

If I am doing it on the treadmill, how much faster should the 400's be then my normal speed (usually 5.6 on the treadmill for a comfortable pace).

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Re: with all this talk about speedwork...

  • It depends. I use a heart rate monitor for speed work and if I can't get my heart rate down enough before the next interval I definitely walk. Recovery between intervals becomes easier the more in shape you become. And it's OK to walk, better to walk to recover than get injured or not be able to finish the workout.
  • I am doing a version of C25K to work on my speed. I can already run the distance, so I am redoing the program and running at a much faster pace than I would otherwise, so by default, I'm walking between running.
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  • 1) I do both, that is the great thing about speed work every workout can be different.  Just keep in mind if you jog between laps you aren't going to be able to do your 400s as fast as if you recover.  For your first time I would walk.  You should be working out pretty hard in this workout, but you don't want to start out so fast you can't finish the workout.

    2) Have you run a 5K?  I would try and run the 400s slightly faster than your 5K speed.  For example, my 5K pace is somewhere between 8:15 - 8:45 depending on the conditions of the race, hills, etc.  and I have been running my 400s somewhere under 8 (1:50 -2:00 for each lap).  When I do speedwork on the treadmill I try and increase the intensity as I do additional laps.  If you use the mcmillian calculator it gives you a suggested pace for your speedwork.

  • 1. I "woggle" half the distance of the speedwork for a recovery. for 400s, that usually means I walk 50-100m, then jog out the rest of the 100 before kicking it back up.YMMV, speedwork is about the actual speed and not the recovery so whatever works.

    2. Treadmill work. For a 5k, I would do as close to balls-to-the-wall as I can go. Like, I'll crank the treadmill up to the point where I have to hold on before I fly off, and back it down like 0.2mph.

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  • use McMillian Pace Calculator to figure out your 400 speed.  And I usually walk my recoveries, but I'm trying to move towards a slow jog with them.  But definitely walk at first.
  • I always try to jog recovery, even if it's a very slow jog. I definitely agree with using McMillan to find a good goal for your 400 pace. http://mcmillanrunning.com/ Plug in a recent race time (or goal race time). I usually use the range given for speedwork for middle distance runners. Good luck!
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  • Thank you all do much for the suggestions! I checked out the calculator and it's awesome! I'm going to walk the recoveries today and see how it goes. Thank you!!
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  • I am a bit behind, but when I first started doing intervals I would walk in between 400s and I would walk until I felt my breathing return to normal.  Then I would run at a 7.2 speed or faster (my comfortable run on a TM is about 6.2).  OVer time I changed it to jogging 400 meters between the 400s that I am doing at a faster pace, however, as someone mentioned before, I sometimes have to walk too, every workout is different!
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