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Have you guys seen this photo?
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Re: Have you guys seen this photo?
Nope but that gets
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I'm actually kind of agreeing with you. But more so because this picture is supposedly from Afghanistan and I think that's the last place we need to be worried about it.
Meh. I think gay & lesbian service members had to hide for so long they should be entitled to a little celebration and if that comes in the form of flying a flag outside their barracks go for it. If it's in violation of a FOB or post rule then I say take it down and display it somewhere that it's not a violation.
Yeah, the flag is oot, but so was the event that precipitated it. Would you tell someone who has a picture of their gay wedding on their desk to keep politics out of work? Or is it just the flag that's the problem?
DADT was a shameful thing, and I'm glad it finally got enough attention to change. Politics is what created DADT, it's what got a gay soldier booed in a presidential debate, it's what allows for politicians to campaign on repealing the repeal.
Especially if it's in Afghanistan. I feel like having the gay pride flag up in a place like that puts people in danger. It absolutely should not, but Afghani culture is not known for its friendliness to the LGBT community.
No. You can only see a desk photo walking by the desk and you'd probably really have to be looking to see it and be able to tell what it was. Hoisting a flag over a post/base/FOB for everyone there and outside to see is a different story.
To me, it's like the difference between tell a co-worker at the water cooler what you did over the weekend and calling a meeting with your whole department to make sure everyone knows what you did over the weekend.
If the objection is to any personal display, then I'm cool with that. I had a similar reaction to thinking it was really out of place, but I also don't know if flags are ever used for personal display.
I just really really bristle at the "just be yourself and go home and don't bring politics into it" when that's what they've been told forever. Well, except for the be yourself part. Other than that they've been told to shut up, wait a few decades, don't even mention your outside life when everyone else won't shut up about their wife or kids or in-laws.
It's like when people see a gay couple holding hands, and they feel compelled to comment that, while it's ok to be gay, why do they have to shove it in everyone's face?
I get what you're saying and I think we agree. I, have an issue not with what it is or represents but where it is being displayed. If that was someone in my unit, or on my FOB, I'd tell them to take it down; for their safety and for ours. Inside their hooch? Sure.
Does that make more sense?
I feel very strongly that work is work and home is home. I didn't talk about home at work really ever when I had an office job and neither does H. He also tries to leave work at work. I realize not everyone feel this way and that's fine.
In regards to PDA, holding hands doesn't bother me, no matter who you're doing it with. Kissing, other than a quick hello or goodbye, and excessive touching, etc. I find inappropriate no matter the genders of the people doing it.
If you are the kind of person who talks about your SO and kids at work, by all means talk about them in casual conversation regardless of your sexual orientation. But don't call a meeting to inform everyone that you took your kids to the zoo last week. Similarly, don't fly a flag over your FOB in hostile territory that makes you and everyone in your immediate area a target for the enemy.
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This exactly. You said it much better than I could have though.
It makes me so uncomfortable to call being gay political. It's just who someone is. Political moves were necessary to allow them to be who they are, but being who they are is not political. I doubt someone put this up just to have. I would be shocked if it weren't a celebratory move, back in September. Any date on the photo?
ETA: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124706/U-S-military-investigating-photograph-soldier-raising-gay-pride-flag-base-Afghanistan.html
And this article says it was a straight guy who flew the flag, and that his wife posted the photo in March. Doesn't say when it was taken.
Being gay isn't political. Flying a gay pride flag can be political, depending on the situation. Hanging one on the wall of your room? Not political. Hoisting it up over an FOB in a combat zone is political, no matter the orientation of the person doing the hoisting.
I don't necessarily think so. If he's doing it in a celebratory, "DADT is FINALLY GONE" way, then no, I don't think he's making a political statement as much as a celebratory one.
This. I'm all for gay pride, but it's like adding another target to their backs, flying that flag so publicly in a place that still believes being gay is fundamentally wrong.
And yet we have FETs and CSTs in a place where women still wear burkas.
I'm pretty sure Jene Newsome left her home life at home and work at work.
While your husband may not engage in frequent conversation about his life with you while he is at work, he had to tell them you exist when he inprocessed. If he prepares to deploy, he has to give them your contact information. Those are testaments of his sexuality and he didn't have to "call a meeting" to do it.
Please explain to me where I said that no one (or gay people in particular) should discuss their personal lives at work. Also please explain to me why the Jene Newsome reference is relevant. The first thing I said was that I'm glad DADT was repealed.
She's probably talking about the bolded. I get that you added qualifiers to your statement, you don't have to tell me.