IHO Fat Tuesday: Betty Draper got fat.

pedantic_wench · April 2012

Discuss.

Sibil · April 2012

It's still a tumor on her thyroid which can still make you fat.

brideymcbriderson · April 2012

It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

+adamwife+ · April 2012

Tell me I'm not the only one who had to google to find out who Betty Draper is.

epphd · April 2012

brideymcbriderson:
It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

ahhh, that's how they did it! I was wondering I do think it's timely though - meaning, timely given the 60s, the "fall" of the housewife and the advent of "mothers' little helpers" and surge of processed foods (anyone notice the Bugles?) and diet pills.

pedantic_wench · April 2012

+adamwife+:
Tell me I'm not the only one who had to google to find out who Betty Draper is.

Sorry to disappoint you.

cvillebetrothed · April 2012

i thought it was an interesting twist. it makes me curious about what they're going to do for her character.

and i was happy to see her not being an asshat to her kids. i get that she's a self-centered and terrible person, but a lot of her parenting looks to me to just be how people parented back in the day (not the shaming and other bullshiit, but the disinterest). it was nice to round her out more (no pun intended) and make her less of a mommy dearest caricature.

Sibil · April 2012

epphd:
brideymcbriderson:
It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.
ahhh, that's how they did it! I was wondering I do think it's timely though - meaning, timely given the 60s, the "fall" of the housewife and the advent of "mothers' little helpers" and surge of processed foods (anyone notice the Bugles?) and diet pills.

I actually think there was something more going on b/c JJ's face wasn't that fat when she was pregnant. I think they enhanced it.

pedantic_wench · April 2012

Did they use a body double?

Y4M · April 2012

Sibil:
I actually think there was something more going on b/c JJ's face wasn't that fat when she was pregnant. I think they enhanced it.

They used the same makeup tricks they used when Peggy was pregnant.

hindsight's_a_biotch · April 2012

They must have added plenty if all over "fat" because January Jones did not get very big when she was pregnant.

And I was right. While googling pics, I found this.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fash-track/mad-men-january-jones-fat-suit-betty-draper-307313

moreace01 · April 2012

brideymcbriderson:

It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

I felt like Sally was side-eyeing her mom eating all that ice cream.

As for the Bugles - my mom (college student in the 60's) said her favorite junk food at that time was Bugles dipped in sour cream. So yeah, they've been around for awhile.

ETA: And January Jones was absolutely wearing a fat suit. I felt like you could see it around her neck.

cvillebetrothed · April 2012

moreace01:
brideymcbriderson:

It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

I felt like Sally was side-eyeing her mom eating all that ice cream.

As for the Bugles - my mom (college student in the 60's) said her favorite junk food at that time was Bugles dipped in sour cream. So yeah, they've been around for awhile.

ETA: And January Jones was absolutely wearing a fat suit. I felt like you could see it around her neck.

oh yes she was. sally will have her revenge.

Sibil · April 2012

Sally is going to end up heroin thin in a couple years.

MrsAJL · April 2012

JJ is wearing a fat suit.

Sibil · April 2012

MrsAJL:
JJ is wearing a fat suit.

That's what I assumed. Her jaw looked so weird, though, I was wondering if there was any computer element to it.

brideymcbriderson · April 2012

Y4M:

Sibil:
I actually think there was something more going on b/c JJ's face wasn't that fat when she was pregnant. I think they enhanced it.

They used the same makeup tricks they used when Peggy was pregnant.

Ah, that makes sense. But I assume it was spurred at least in part by her pregnancy and a need to cover up her belly?

They couldn't really do the Mariska Hargitay always-wear-a-coat thing since Betty's dresses that showed off her figure were a big part of her character.

LaPiscine · April 2012

I thought but for the prosthetic chin fat, she looked better. Her face looked better and I believe the face-fat is real because of her pregnancy. Also, lame with the body double when she got out of the tub. Really? That was necessary?

LaPiscine · April 2012

epphd:
brideymcbriderson:
It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.
ahhh, that's how they did it! I was wondering I do think it's timely though - meaning, timely given the 60s, the "fall" of the housewife and the advent of "mothers' little helpers" and surge of processed foods (anyone notice the Bugles?) and diet pills.

I totally noticed that. I agree that it's a great way to provide even more insight into various cultural issues in the 1960's - like, okay, and this is what the weight issue was like back then.

msmerymac · April 2012

Sibil:
epphd:
brideymcbriderson:

It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

ahhh, that's how they did it! I was wondering I do think it's timely though - meaning, timely given the 60s, the "fall" of the housewife and the advent of "mothers' little helpers" and surge of processed foods (anyone notice the Bugles?) and diet pills.

I actually think there was something more going on b/c JJ's face wasn't that fat when she was pregnant. I think they enhanced it.

Totally. They added some prosthetics to her neck/chin, for sure.

In terms of the episode, on one the one hand, I think Henry was an a$$hole for being mad that Betty told Don about her cancer scare. He's the father of her children. On the other hand, Megan was right - Betty always needs a reason to "need" Don.

Sibil · April 2012

msmerymac:
Sibil:
epphd:
brideymcbriderson:

It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

ahhh, that's how they did it! I was wondering I do think it's timely though - meaning, timely given the 60s, the "fall" of the housewife and the advent of "mothers' little helpers" and surge of processed foods (anyone notice the Bugles?) and diet pills.

I actually think there was something more going on b/c JJ's face wasn't that fat when she was pregnant. I think they enhanced it.

Totally. They added some prosthetics to her neck/chin, for sure.

In terms of the episode, on one the one hand, I think Henry was an a$$hole for being mad that Betty told Don about her cancer scare. He's the father of her children. On the other hand, Megan was right - Betty always needs a reason to "need" Don.

I think Megan and Henry were both wrong.

Calling about a cancer scare is a perfectly legitimate need. Megan is just a petulant child.

msmerymac · April 2012

moreace01:
brideymcbriderson:

It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

I felt like Sally was side-eyeing her mom eating all that ice cream.

As for the Bugles - my mom (college student in the 60's) said her favorite junk food at that time was Bugles dipped in sour cream. So yeah, they've been around for awhile.

ETA: And January Jones was absolutely wearing a fat suit. I felt like you could see it around her neck.

Of course she was. Betty's already given Sally body/weight issues by fearing Sally would become fat.

Also, I loved bugles as a kid. My grandparents would buy them. They probably wouldn't be as good to me now. Junk food never is.

LaPiscine · April 2012

Sibil:
msmerymac:
Sibil:
epphd:
brideymcbriderson:

It's an interesting way to deal with January Jones's pregnancy.

I kind of loved it at the end of the episode when she ate the rest of Sally's ice cream. I don't know why, but that made me laugh.

ahhh, that's how they did it! I was wondering I do think it's timely though - meaning, timely given the 60s, the "fall" of the housewife and the advent of "mothers' little helpers" and surge of processed foods (anyone notice the Bugles?) and diet pills.

I actually think there was something more going on b/c JJ's face wasn't that fat when she was pregnant. I think they enhanced it.

Totally. They added some prosthetics to her neck/chin, for sure.

In terms of the episode, on one the one hand, I think Henry was an a$$hole for being mad that Betty told Don about her cancer scare. He's the father of her children. On the other hand, Megan was right - Betty always needs a reason to "need" Don.
I think Megan and Henry were both wrong.
Calling about a cancer scare is a perfectly legitimate need. Megan is just a petulant child.

She totally is and I'm so disappointed with that development. I was really hopeful that she would be an interesting character, but she's just like Roger's wife except good with kids.

Also, I agree that a cancer scare is a legitimate need.

MommaG123 · April 2012

+adamwife+:
Tell me I'm not the only one who had to google to find out who Betty Draper is.

Raises hand.

Sibil · April 2012

LaPiscine:

She totally is and I'm so disappointed with that development. I was really hopeful that she would be an interesting character, but she's just like Roger's wife except good with kids.
Also, I agree that a cancer scare is a legitimate need.

I'm still thinking she's going to be interesting. I think she's playing a part. She was the good housewife to capture Don, and now she's the slutty mistress to keep him. I think it's very calculated. Especially with that line at the party about her being a good actor.

I'm also wondering if her knowing about Don/*** is going to be central to her character. The previews make me think Don tells at least Betty, but I don't know if he's doing that of his own free will.

So, I take back "just" a petulant child, and say that she's a child who's playing at being a very manipulative woman and so far mostly succeeding.

msmerymac · April 2012

Sibil:
LaPiscine:

She totally is and I'm so disappointed with that development. I was really hopeful that she would be an interesting character, but she's just like Roger's wife except good with kids.

Also, I agree that a cancer scare is a legitimate need.

I'm still thinking she's going to be interesting. I think she's playing a part. She was the good housewife to capture Don, and now she's the slutty mistress to keep him. I think it's very calculated. Especially with that line at the party about her being a good actor.
I'm also wondering if her knowing about Don/*** is going to be central to her character. The previews make me think Don tells at least Betty, but I don't know if he's doing that of his own free will.

So, I take back "just" a petulant child, and say that she's a child who's playing at being a very manipulative woman and so far mostly succeeding.

I agree with you.

But add on to that how completely manipulative Don is. Therefore, I see the two of them working out just fine. Or crashing spectacularly, but I'm actually putting my bet on the former.

Moxie27 · April 2012

not a fan of fat betty draper.

Sibil · April 2012

msmerymac:

But add on to that how completely manipulative Don is. Therefore, I see the two of them working out just fine. Or crashing spectacularly, but I'm actually putting my bet on the former.

I think Don's mostly given up his manipulating. He didn't give a hard sell to Heinz, he doesn't care about work anymore. The role is now for Pete, complete with home in the suburbs.

Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if Don reverted, but right now they're making him the good guy.

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