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Found it, re: FWP

And now I really do need to get on a conference call about a budget. My Friday nights are so exciting these days.

 

Since most FWP are petty mundane gripes it creates this perception that the reason THESE are FWP is that so called "third world people" are so consumed with life and death matters that they are fundamentally different and don't have mundane complaints. But the reality is that 99% of FWP I read are nearly identical to complaints that my "third world" friends have too.  Just because you live in Nigeria doesn't mean you never have days when your pants are too tight or when you're hungover or when someone is texting you about a party you can't attend or your new DVD is scratched etc.  Also most people who live in the "third world" don't really like that phrase but you can't have first world problems without a third world. 

"We tend to be patronizing about the poor in a very specific sense, which is that we tend to think,

Re: Found it, re: FWP

  • See, this is why I prefer White People Problems.

    lol 

  • Yeah.  I didn't even respond to that in the thread because I couldn't believe that people were saying, "Wow.  You're right.  It's offensive to say FWP.  We shouldn't say that."  but then saying they don't care that other words offend some Christians.

    Worried about offending people living in Africa that will probably never post on this board.  Yep.

    Potentially offending a large segment of the population that may be posting on this board.  Meh.   Who cares?  How dare they FORCE me to observe their religion.

    Makes sense to me.

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  • I've always kind of chuckled that FWP was considered a more elegant solution to the obvious problems with "white people problems."

    Like I said, I'm not so offended by this that I can't see straight. I just think it's a dumb phrasing that is careless and as such has pretty big potential to offend. Shocking to many, third world people are all over the internets too! Though sometimes the nest doesn't load very well in their countries. OH WAIT.

    ETA. I think it's silly to think the only people who might be offended by this are in Africa. And that no one in Africa could possibly ever read this board. Or no one FROM Africa or any other developing country. At least 5-6 posters immediately come to mind.

    "We tend to be patronizing about the poor in a very specific sense, which is that we tend to think,
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    I've always kind of chuckled that FWP was considered a more elegant solution to the obvious problems with "white people problems."

    Like I said, I'm not so offended by this that I can't see straight. I just think it's a dumb phrasing that is careless and as such has pretty big potential to offend. Shocking to many, third world people are all over the internets too! Though sometimes the nest doesn't load very well in their countries. OH WAIT.

    ETA. I think it's silly to think the only people who might be offended by this are in Africa. And that no one in Africa could possibly ever read this board. Or no one FROM Africa or any other developing country. At least 5-6 posters immediately come to mind.

    I wasn't saying that only Africans would be offended or that they can't post.  Just that there is a significantly larger number of Christians that could be (and from the posts in the thread are) offended.

    If you're worried about offending people, you should be worried about offending people, right?  I don't really understand why it is wrong to intentionally say offensive things about one group but OK to do it to others.  Unless you think people don't have a right to be offended by blasphemy, which sounds like the case.  

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  • Yes, I agreed with you in there...

    I participated in the last one for the first time but then I felt icky afterwards. Those threads should just be called "place where I bit*h about stuff."

  • I'm slow and have always had some kind of acronym deficiency... what's FWP stand for? 
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    I've always kind of chuckled that FWP was considered a more elegant solution to the obvious problems with "white people problems."

    Like I said, I'm not so offended by this that I can't see straight. I just think it's a dumb phrasing that is careless and as such has pretty big potential to offend. Shocking to many, third world people are all over the internets too! Though sometimes the nest doesn't load very well in their countries. OH WAIT.

    ETA. I think it's silly to think the only people who might be offended by this are in Africa. And that no one in Africa could possibly ever read this board. Or no one FROM Africa or any other developing country. At least 5-6 posters immediately come to mind.

    I wasn't saying that only Africans would be offended or that they can't post.  Just that there is a significantly larger number of Christians that could be (and from the posts in the thread are) offended.

    If you're worried about offending people, you should be worried about offending people, right?  I don't really understand why it is wrong to intentionally say offensive things about one group but OK to do it to others.  Unless you think people don't have a right to be offended by blasphemy, which sounds like the case.  

    That actually wasn't my point at all. My point was, this FWP meme is all over the Nest and all over the internet. Until that post, where I used it as an example, I have never called anyone out for using it, because while I do think it's offensive I also don't really think it's my place to call out every single time someone says something that could possibly be offensive. And I also very strongly recognize that while it is offensive to ME it will not be offensive to many other people, and that their use of the term indicates no malice. I accept that different people have different worldviews. I don't like all of them, but whatever. I won't engage in the things I disagree with, but I would never expect random acquaintances, and especially not internet strangers to conform to my particular ethical quirks.

    I expect that on the internet people will say things that offend me. And things with which I strongly disagree. Unless they are factually wrong (i.e. Goldie and her ridiculous opinions about Mexicans) I don't feel like I have a right to ask them to stop. Obviously you feel differently and I respect that. We just have different opinions.

    "We tend to be patronizing about the poor in a very specific sense, which is that we tend to think,
  • Remind me, what are Goldies opinions about Mexicans?
  • I don't want to misquote, but to paraphrase she basically said that Mexicans haven't done anything to stop the crime in their country and therefore she thinks it's wrong to give tourism dollars to the Mexican people. There have been several posts here, on MM and on Travel where she has reiterated some variation on this theme.

    Except, of course they had a free and fair election in which they selected a candidate who ran on a platform of fighting the cartels tooth and nail and whose draconian anti-drug and anti-cartel policies were heavily endorsed and supported by our own government.

    Maybe 2012 will prove her right since Pena Nieto, the likely next President, will be elected because the Mexican people are tired of the violence CAUSED BY the war on drugs initiated by the government they had previously elected.

    "We tend to be patronizing about the poor in a very specific sense, which is that we tend to think,
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    Remind me, what are Goldies opinions about Mexicans?

    Glad I'm not the only one wondering about this. It's been brought up multiple times since I've come out of lurking this evening.

     

  • While I see after your explanation how'd you'd take offense to using that term, I think it's important to point out that people using the term are making fun of THEMSELVES for having stupid complaints. They realize their complain is trivial and are putting it in perspective. They/we aren't bragging that we have only silly complaints, nor are we saying that one who exists in a 3rd world country never has silly compliants. It actually has nothing to do with 3rd world countries at all. Just saying- that's a different vantage point than someone who is commenting on others. It's honestly kinda funny to me that me making fun of myself could be turned around to someone thinking I'm talking about them.
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  • I get that. That's why I thought it was a decent (if not great) example. I find it offensive, but I get that for most people it has a completely different meaning/implication than it does for me. That's why I don't judge/call people out for it (though I suppose now that's what it looks like) because I don't expect everyone to take things the way I take them.
    "We tend to be patronizing about the poor in a very specific sense, which is that we tend to think,
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