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Our tech team has launched updates to The Nest today. As a result of these updates, members of the Nest Community will need to change their password in order to continue participating in the community. In addition, The Nest community member's avatars will be replaced with generic default avatars. If you wish to revert to your original avatar, you will need to re-upload it via The Nest.
If you have questions about this, please email help@theknot.com.
Thank you.
Note: This only affects The Nest's community members and will not affect members on The Bump or The Knot.
In case you missed it, MSNBC is watching us
They took a screen shot from a poster on P&CE and used it in a story.
http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/65313332.aspx
They credited it to The Bump, which is what horrifies me the most.
Re: In case you missed it, MSNBC is watching us
Creepy!
So much for Lucy and her EU privacy rights!!
I don't like it but I think it's interesting that journalists are now using information they find online. I get the feeling the poster in question was not asked for permission to use her opinion. Is this considered responsible journalism? I know I'm not keen on giving interviews because I prefer to stay more or less anonymous. I would be highly disappointed, therefore, to see my words used, without my permission, in a context I didn't intend for them to be used.
Would it be considered correct if a journalist overhears a conversation at a bar/supermarket/hair salon and quoted that in an article? This is sort of how I'm seeing this issue.
Whether this is okay or not is a little iffy. I went to journalism school when the internet was really just taking off and back then in my ethics class this would've been frowned upon (journalism specific ethics class, that is).
That said, the story truly is (first sentence) about how the opinion online seems to be shifting. Ethics says that if you claim something, you need to provide proof for that as a journalist, so if you say on the internet x, you need to show screenshots or provide links to where on the internet it says x.
I actually think they went for a good middle ground, not providing links and siggies, just screenshot, with a user names that are pretty anonymous. I'm sure they could've found enough similar sentiment on the net where people were less anonymous, but they didn't go for that.
It's just once and again proof that what you say on the internet = what you say in public.
We instated a rule in my office (when co-workers were asking about what they could or couldn't say about work on twitter, facebook, the internet in general and it's not a password protected friends only location) and that rule is: would you wear it on a T-shirt and walk around outside? If no, then don't post it on the friggin internet.
It's so simple!
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<a href="http://www.thenest.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=HTML&utm_campaign=tickers" title="Home DI am a journalist, and this is the kind of crap that has had me alarmed for years. I can't believe how often "quotes" are taken from Twitter, discussion boards, etc. This is not real journalism, at least the way I learned it. Sadly, this is the way "journalism" is going. Every outlet wants to be first, every outlet wants to have a fresh scoop or angle.
I'm not sure, but I THINK that by posting on the boards you give your permission for your posts to be used by other people....
Off to check the TOS...
Yep, thought so. This is a quote from the Terms of Use:
The Nest reserves the right to republish any material contributed by our readers. By posting a message, a subscriber expressly grants the right to The Nest to republish or sell the message as part of any edited compilation such as The Daily Poop or Nest Baby News.
So MSNBC would have had to get permission from The Nest, and not from the individual poster....And I THINK that MSN might have part ownership of TK/TN/TB??? Not sure about this....
Oh, Rita, how do you always have the perfect gif in store and, more importantly, how can you always find them so easily? Do you have folders labeled like "WTF staring gifs," "disgusted face gifs" etc?
And I would argue that the TOS say that TN may republish them in TN's own publications (like the newsletter they spam us with occasionally), but that doesn't give MSNBC the right to just drop by, take a screenshot, and use it in an article. If TN uses it in a newsletter, then it's still just going out to TN public, which is who I assume will read it anyway. If all of a sudden news outlets are coming over and taking screenshots, then what I say is reaching an audience I never expected it to reach. Of course it's fair game since it's on the internet, and it's why I try not to give too much personal info about myself in any one post and regularly delete old posts so too much doesn't accumulate, but still. I don't think the TOS apply to this situation.
I'm reaching the point where this is really becoming an issue. I have so many, and keeping them catalogued is getting tougher and tougher.
Instead of a newsletter called The Daily Poop (FFS) they should have The GIF Users Daily, for message board users.
There was a big debate about this not too long ago on What's Cooking because TN started pinning pictures they had posted from their blogs and crediting them to TN. People got really ticked off, but TN claimed they had rights to them. BumpKathleen was quick to reassure that pictures of our kids would never be used without our permission, but to be honest, I'm not going to put a clear pic of DD in my siggy because I don't believe it would *never* happen.
I think I might have a story or two for them...
Honestly though, WTF is the daily poop?
Chronically hilarious - you'll split your stitches!
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I'm not that surprised. When Amoro's post showed up in The Nest magazine, I was extremely glad that I randomly ended up choosing a different screen name here, since I usually reuse the same name across every website I post on. I could just imagine someone who never visits TheNest.com thumbing through the magazine at the bookstore and seeing my "normal" username. Eek! And ditto with the MSNBC thing now.
The thing is, The Nest has always been in bed with greater media, and when The Nest magazine thing came up, it was pretty clear that they think the terms give them full rights to whatever we post. And if they don't, I'm sure they'll modify them soon to be certain they do.
Lurking, and late chiming in, but the screenshot actually links to the full thread, her siggy of her kids, her blog, etc. A non-hyperlinking screen shot would have been fine, but I am not impressed they linked it all.
I was once quoted by a journalist without my permission from something I put online. My cousin was killed a school shooting some years ago (I won't say which one for privacy's sake) and we weren't sure if she had died or was unidentified in a hospital for a while. I was far away and the only thing I figured I could do was try to find other students or students families online to see if any of them had seen her or heard what happened. So I was looking and I found someone else, a friend of hers, who was also searching for information, so I told her that I was a cousin and as of yet the family wasn't sure what had happened but she did seem to be missing.
It showed in a newspaper as a quote from a cousin.
Worse, my aunt (not the cousin's mother, another aunt) was furious at me, because I shouldn't have done that. Honestly, I couldn't see what I had done wrong and it's not exactly like anyone knows what to do in a situation like that. Everyone just acts to the best of their ability, and what I thought to do was get online and search for answers... that might not have been my aunt's default and that's okay, but...
I wish they had asked my permission before publishing it, though, because it caused unnecessary drama in my family when it was least needed.
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