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Susan Collins Secrect Service needs women

I give a side eye to her. Sure, maybe we need more women in the SS. But to say that if there had been more (any) women on the President's detail that there would not have been prostitutes.

Why? Because women have a better moral compass? They wouldn't hire male prostitutes? They would shame the men? They would be there for the men to bang for free?

 

AUGUSTA, Maine ? U.S. Sen. Susan Collins says the Secret Service prostitution scandal highlights a lack of women in the presidential security ranks.

The Maine Republican, who is ranking member of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, discussed the scandal Sunday on the ABC news program, ?This Week with George Stephanopolous.?

Collins said she can?t help but wonder that if there had been more women on that detail in Colombia, if the questionable behavior would have ever happened.

Collins also said she?s been told there?s no evidence of underage women involved in the scandal. But Collins says that?s beside the larger point: ?What are Secret Service agents doing bringing unknown foreign nationals to their rooms, regardless of their age??

The Maine senator says she does not believe the Colombia event was a one-time incident. Earlier this week, she noted to Reuters that, ?There are 11 agents involved. Twenty or 21 women foreign nationals were brought to the hotel, but allegedly Marines were involved with the rest,? she said in an email.

?Director Sullivan is rightly appalled by the agents actions and is pursuing a vigorous internal investigation,? said Collins, the senior Republican on the Senate Homeland Security Committee. ?He ordered all the agents to return to Washington immediately, and all have been interviewed.?


 

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Re: Susan Collins Secrect Service needs women

  • I think she's right. Having women would prevent the SS from having a frat house mentality.
  • I don't think that adding more women to SS is the ultimate answer but it would probably help.
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  • No, I don't think she is saying women have a stronger/better moral compass.  I  think she's acknowledging a common sense phenomenon; women and men act differently in mixed gender groups than in same gender groups.   It doesn't go as far as prostitutes or no most times, but there is a difference.
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  • I should admit that I have a seriously passionate love affair with Susan Collins as Senator, and won't hear a bad thing about her.   She could post her junk on the internet a la Anthony Weiner and I'd call it art and still sit outside her house with my Susan Collins fangirl tshirt on.

     

     

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  • image3.27.04_Helper:
    I think she's right. Having women would prevent the SS from having a frat house mentality.

    I agree. Women make mistakes, sure, but they rarely make the mistake of hiring a prostitute while representing their country and then refusing to pay said prostitute. 

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  • I would agree with her as well.

    I see this in the military quite often. In units where women serve, the chain of command is much more responsive and sensitive to sticky situations. In combat arms units that are exclusively male, things are far more likely to get out of hand or the COC is much less responsive to complaints or addressing issues.

     



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  • also, I hate to generalize men but IME, men expect men will keep their secrets boys will be boys style whereas men believe that women will rat them out to their wives at the company picnic.


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  • Men and women are socialized very differently, there's no arguing with that, and frat house behavior in all-men groups is just an outcome of that. 
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  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    Men and women are socialized very differently, there's no arguing with that, and frat house behavior in all-men groups is just an outcome of that. 

    i agree.

    i have been the only woman in the room on several occasions recently and i can feel a subtle shift in the dialogue when, for example, i return after leaving for a minute or so.  and this is professional dialogue, not discussions about hiring foreign hookers.

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  • image3.27.04_Helper:
    I think she's right. Having women would prevent the SS from having a frat house mentality.

    I agree with this. Interacting with real, actual, live women on a daily basis might impact the view of women the guys hiring the prostitutes have. Like, hey, women are people too. If you're in a work environment that is exclusively male it's easier to marginalize the other sex.

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