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Tax question- may be stupid?

Why can't everyone just be charged the same percent- whether you make 40K per year or 1M per year? 

Another question- if someone chooses to invest their money- that money has already been taxed, right?  So, why is there a capital gains tax also?

 

Re: Tax question- may be stupid?

  • What do you propose this magical percentage be? The highest current bracket? Let's say 30%. 30% of 1 million is $300k, which leaves $700k for the person earning it. 30% of $40k is $28,000, which is a hard row to hoe for a family of 4 in almost any area of the county.

    The reason we have a progressive tax system is the same reason many people don't have an income tax burden. (Though everyone pays payroll taxes, sales taxes, etc.)

    A flat tax is regressive. I also think this about the sales tax, which is why I do not support our governor in his efforts to pass a ballot amendment which would increase income tax on those making over $250k/year AND raise the sales tax another .25%. Because that would disporportionate affect the poor, even moreso than those making over $250k.

    (Sorry, SBP, I tried.)

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  • Re. the second question, that logic only holds if it was a capital investment tax.  It's not, it's a capital gains tax:  they are being taxed on the money/return their investment has made.  It's like when you are taxed on bank interest as income.

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    Bwahahahahahaha!!!

    Yea for election season.

     

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  • imagemsmerymac:

    What do you propose this magical percentage be? The highest current bracket? Let's say 30%. 30% of 1 million is $300k, which leaves $700k for the person earning it. 30% of $40k is $28,000, which is a hard row to hoe for a family of 4 in almost any area of the county.

    The reason we have a progressive tax system is the same reason many people don't have an income tax burden. (Though everyone pays payroll taxes, sales taxes, etc.)

    A flat tax is regressive. I also think this about the sales tax, which is why I do not support our governor in his efforts to pass a ballot amendment which would increase income tax on those making over $250k/year AND raise the sales tax another .25%. Because that would disporportionate affect the poor, even moreso than those making over $250k.

    (Sorry, SBP, I tried.)

    Do you know who exactly this group is?  What the cut off is?

  • imageCharacterZero:
    imagemsmerymac:

    What do you propose this magical percentage be? The highest current bracket? Let's say 30%. 30% of 1 million is $300k, which leaves $700k for the person earning it. 30% of $40k is $28,000, which is a hard row to hoe for a family of 4 in almost any area of the county.

    The reason we have a progressive tax system is the same reason many people don't have an income tax burden. (Though everyone pays payroll taxes, sales taxes, etc.)

    A flat tax is regressive. I also think this about the sales tax, which is why I do not support our governor in his efforts to pass a ballot amendment which would increase income tax on those making over $250k/year AND raise the sales tax another .25%. Because that would disporportionate affect the poor, even moreso than those making over $250k.

    (Sorry, SBP, I tried.)

    Do you know who exactly this group is?  What the cut off is?

    Zero.  That's the cut-off of tax burden where you don't pay any.

    Seriously, though, there's no simple answer, because tax is based on AGI (after deductions, credits, etc.). 


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    imageswimbikepuke:

    Bwahahahahahaha!!!

    Yea for election season.

     

    Yes

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  • imageCharacterZero:

    Why can't everyone just be charged the same percent- whether you make 40K per year or 1M per year? 

    Another question- if someone chooses to invest their money- that money has already been taxed, right?  So, why is there a capital gains tax also?

     

    No, it hasn't. 

    Say you take $1,000 from your paycheck and invest it. It makes $500, so you now have $1,500. You pay capital gains on the $500, not the original $1,000. That $500 is new money so no, it has never been taxed. 

    And in fact, you'll pay *less* tax on the $500 you made by investing than on the $1,000 you made by working, percentage-wise.

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  • The money my employer pays me was already taxed when he earned it, so I shouldn't be taxed again on it, that's double taxing.  ILLEGAL!!!!!

    And then it gets taxed when I spend it by the person receiving it.  It's a really dirty cycle. 

  • imagejlthompson19:

    The money my employer pays me was already taxed when he earned it, so I shouldn't be taxed again on it, that's double taxing.  ILLEGAL!!!!!

    And then it gets taxed when I spend it by the person receiving it.  It's a really dirty cycle. 

    Right.  This whole double tax thing is a red herring.  Money is taxed pretty much everytime it changes hands. 
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    Hey - what does your screen name mean?

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