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dream sheets

Dream sheets give me anxiety. Although I think if I was honest with myself I would say they are just the icing on my anxious cake this month. Back to reality: there really is no point to them, is there? The military (AF in this case) knows where they need you and that's that. Can anyone give me any hope of our preference making any real difference?

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  • Well ours sure a shiit didn't make a difference.  We have been stuck in the pits of helll the entire time.
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  • p.s. for anyone noticing the others posts I've left tonight: I apologize for my negativity and anxious filled rants. I had a rough day.
  • My husband & every person I know IRL got their top pick. (Marine Corps)
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  • We got our last choice this time around and it was more of a forced choice at that. Oh well, we'll try to make the best of it since it's all we can do!
  • I don't think we've gotten anywhere off the list, although we haven't gotten first choice.  Then again, H volunteers for some weird spots.  He also looks at how many billets there are for him in a given location, and he won't request it if there's minimal chance.
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  • My H got his top choice this time, 3rd choice last time I think? But a good friend of ours got the ol' "you need to rearrange your dream sheet because you're not going anywhere on it" phone call. I think it really depends on supply and demand and sometimes it works out in your favor. 
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  • H got our number 3 pick so I wouldn't say they're pointless.

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  • They don't give a rat's hind end what your dream sheet says until you are at a certain rank.  What they look at now is if you think you want to go over seas.  If you put down an overseas base, chances are higher that you'll get one but not a guaruntee. 

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  • Most of the people I know personally don't even fill them out. They just talk to the detailer to find out what billets are actually available and do the best they can to lock in their top choice before someone else does.
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  • Oh, wait, H got his top pick once.  An unaccompanied tour to Korea. lol
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  • imageiluvmytxrgr:

    They don't give a rat's hind end what your dream sheet says until you are at a certain rank.  What they look at now is if you think you want to go over seas.  If you put down an overseas base, chances are higher that you'll get one but not a guaruntee. 

    I'm curious what rank they start to care. . .

    As long as I've known my DH, he's always been told where to go. Well, this last move, he was given a list, but a COL he had worked for in the past saw he was available and called him up. Kind of difficult to say no, so here we are. Thankfully it's a cool place! I was not pleased with four out of the six locations on the list. Guess I shouldn't make it sound like I'm complaining.

    FWIW, my DH is an Army O, but he was told where to go when he was enlisted, too.
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    Most of the people I know personally don't even fill them out. They just talk to the detailer to find out what billets are actually available and do the best they can to lock in their top choice before someone else does.

    That sounds like a first class ticket to bumfucknowhere. 
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  • haha while I appreciate everyone's input and willingness to share I've basically got the following from this: it may or may not make a difference where you are, what rank you are, what branch you serve, whether or not you fill out the sheet there is no real way to tell whether or not your dream sheet holds any weight. I guess we'll fill it out regardless and tell ourselves we have any control over our future placement.
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    haha while I appreciate everyone's input and willingness to share I've basically got the following from this: it may or may not make a difference where you are, what rank you are, what branch you serve, whether or not you fill out the sheet there is no real way to tell whether or not your dream sheet holds any weight. I guess we'll fill it out regardless and tell ourselves we have any control over our future placement.

    Pretty much.

    What DOES matter is the needs of the military, whatever branch that may be.

    ETA: H got his last pick out of tech school. We are still here. He played the equals listing and lined his dream sheet up with mostly what was on the EQUALS for his job/rank. We got that 4th pick on that, and then it was taken away and now he is going to Korea for a year. We are still waiting to hear if he gets anything off of what he requested as a follow on to Korea. So much anxiety in the waiting! :)

     

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    My husband & every person I know IRL got their top pick. (Marine Corps)

    You came to my wedding, so you know my H. He has gotten his first pick once and his absolute last pick (Okinawa) once (for his 4 years). And the time he got his first pick (this time) was kind of a given because they had barely any slots available on the East Coast, and zero slots in Okinawa.

    I've seen a lot of military surprise homecomings. It wouldn't work on me. I always have my back to the corner and my face to the door. Looking for terrorists, criminals, various other threats, and husbands.
  • This time around, we didn't get our first pick, but we got like our 3rd or so. We were happy with this base assignment.
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  • In the 9 years I was AD (AF), I never ended up at a base on our dream sheet.  Same with H.

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  • imagej&sr:
    haha while I appreciate everyone's input and willingness to share I've basically got the following from this: it may or may not make a difference where you are, what rank you are, what branch you serve, whether or not you fill out the sheet there is no real way to tell whether or not your dream sheet holds any weight. I guess we'll fill it out regardless and tell ourselves we have any control over our future placement.
    It's not entirely hopeless.  Like I said, H has had a little bit of control by looking at the jobs available and requesting likely assignments.  If you put a hot spot like Hawaii on the list, but there's only 1 billet open, you're probably not going to get it.  If you fill your list with other unlikelies like Australia or Aviano, you're likely not going to end up with any of your selections.  Save the awesome requests for after finishing up an unaccompanied tour, when your name goes to the top of the list (it's how we're in Hawaii, and it's part of why he requested a tour in Korea).

    Also, it helps to have a proactive commander who will place calls for you, talk to AFPC (or your branch analogy), try to get you a good match.  

    Networking matters.  H once got a by name request (although that fell through for bizarre reasons that don't apply to most people).  He's always networking in the hopes of a future one. 

    If you know you're in a situation where a bad tour is bound to come up, try to game it.  Look for the best of the worst spots.  Again, that's part of h's request for Korea as he knew a 365 was likely to be upcoming.

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    imagej&sr:
    haha while I appreciate everyone's input and willingness to share I've basically got the following from this: it may or may not make a difference where you are, what rank you are, what branch you serve, whether or not you fill out the sheet there is no real way to tell whether or not your dream sheet holds any weight. I guess we'll fill it out regardless and tell ourselves we have any control over our future placement.
    It's not entirely hopeless.  Like I said, H has had a little bit of control by looking at the jobs available and requesting likely assignments.  If you put a hot spot like Hawaii on the list, but there's only 1 billet open, you're probably not going to get it.  If you fill your list with other unlikelies like Australia or Aviano, you're likely not going to end up with any of your selections.  Save the awesome requests for after finishing up an unaccompanied tour, when your name goes to the top of the list (it's how we're in Hawaii, and it's part of why he requested a tour in Korea).

    Also, it helps to have a proactive commander who will place calls for you, talk to AFPC (or your branch analogy), try to get you a good match.  

    Networking matters.  H once got a by name request (although that fell through for bizarre reasons that don't apply to most people).  He's always networking in the hopes of a future one. 

    If you know you're in a situation where a bad tour is bound to come up, try to game it.  Look for the best of the worst spots.  Again, that's part of h's request for Korea as he knew a 365 was likely to be upcoming.

    Thanks for your encouraging words and advice. I just get frustrated sometimes because there are so many pieces of information and advice floating around that it can feel like there is no point at trying to figure it out sometimes.

    I just try to remind myself that our marriage is what matters- not the location. And yes, AFPC is the right acronym for me, too. : )

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    imageAmaristella:
    Most of the people I know personally don't even fill them out. They just talk to the detailer to find out what billets are actually available and do the best they can to lock in their top choice before someone else does.

    That sounds like a first class ticket to bumfucknowhere. 

    It's like honeybadger said though. If the Navy needs you in either Hawaii or Diego Garcia there's no sense in asking for San Diego or Florida. You ask for Hawaii and then you cross your fingers and toes, get down on your knees and pray.

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  • H got his top pick, but the base he wanted is so huge it was pretty much unheard of for someone to request Norfolk and not get it.
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  • j&sr, I don't remember your backstory (nor anyone else, here, to be honest) but you're new to this, right?

    I won't scare you with tales of how we were jerked around the year when we found out H would not fly again.  That was shittiness to the degree that long term AF friends found appalling.  If anyone's been screwed, we have.  Repeatedly.

    Yes, there IS an element of giving up a semblance of control. 

    However, I just also think if you're smart about it you can still have a say in where you're going.  Admittedly, I don't know anything about enlisted assignments, but I think you said your H was a new O?  Fair or not, it seems to be a different world wrt assignments.

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  • imageAmaristella:

    imageIrishcurls:
    imageAmaristella:
    Most of the people I know personally don't even fill them out. They just talk to the detailer to find out what billets are actually available and do the best they can to lock in their top choice before someone else does.

    That sounds like a first class ticket to bumfucknowhere. 

    It's like honeybadger said though. If the Navy needs you in either Hawaii or Diego Garcia there's no sense in asking for San Diego or Florida. You ask for Hawaii and then you cross your fingers and toes, get down on your knees and pray.

    Very true. For my H though, putting nothing would be a sure ticket to Alaska. I'd rather him take chances on filling a need somewhere else.  

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  • imageSibil:

    j&sr, I don't remember your backstory (nor anyone else, here, to be honest) but you're new to this, right?

    I won't scare you with tales of how we were jerked around the year when we found out H would not fly again.  That was shittiness to the degree that long term AF friends found appalling.  If anyone's been screwed, we have.  Repeatedly.

    Yes, there IS an element of giving up a semblance of control. 

    However, I just also think if you're smart about it you can still have a say in where you're going.  Admittedly, I don't know anything about enlisted assignments, but I think you said your H was a new O?  Fair or not, it seems to be a different world wrt assignments.

    Yep I'm new to the military life and the board. My husband is a relatively new O, you're also right about that. This is our first official  attempt at a dream sheet and based on what I had heard and comparing other peoples dream sheets ahead of him to what their drop was etc. I just got super frustrated with the whole point of it.

    We were never going to not fill it out I just wasn't sure if there was any logic to it or not. We attempted to figure out general areas we would like to be in and narrow it down to states. We also tried to look at those areas and determine which states had the most base options and greatest likelihood of then being stationed at one of them. Those were the kinds of things we were trying. 

    I am SO sorry to hear about you guys getting screwed over! That is awful! Maybe you're right: it might be best right now not to scare me with details :) But either way I'm sorry to hear that. It's all about being flexible, adapting, and making the best with what we're given, right? Tell me I'm not fooling myself! haha

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    imageiluvmytxrgr:

    They don't give a rat's hind end what your dream sheet says until you are at a certain rank.  What they look at now is if you think you want to go over seas.  If you put down an overseas base, chances are higher that you'll get one but not a guaruntee. 

    I'm curious what rank they start to care. . .

    As long as I've known my DH, he's always been told where to go. Well, this last move, he was given a list, but a COL he had worked for in the past saw he was available and called him up. Kind of difficult to say no, so here we are. Thankfully it's a cool place! I was not pleased with four out of the six locations on the list. Guess I shouldn't make it sound like I'm complaining.

    FWIW, my DH is an Army O, but he was told where to go when he was enlisted, too.

    Usually E-6ish, in my expirience.  It is usually around the second re-enlistment.  You can go to a career counselor to see where slots are opening and put in for them.  It really depends a lot on your job and still on the needs of your branch.  One of my very good friends is up for a PCS, she went in ahead of time and said she'd really be interested in bases A, B and C.  Because of that, they sat down with her to see what was coming open and put a request in.  She got base A.  I've seen it happen pretty often, especially if you are asking for a base most people don't ask for. 

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  • imagej&sr:
    It's all about being flexible, adapting, and making the best with what we're given, right? Tell me I'm not fooling myself! haha
    You're not fooling yourself.  You do have to be flexible and adaptable, and I think mostly everyone is when they have to be.  You'll look back in amazement that you'd never thought you'd be where you are today (on all "today"s).  It keeps life pretty interesting, even if it can be the biggest PITA at times. 
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