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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Agreed with "making" being the opperative word. Call a spade a spade and don't invent something that isnt there.
I think that what happened to Trayvon Martin is terrible. I think that black people in hoodies do get stereotyped. I do not think this is a case about race. Every time a "white" (totally agree that he's either Hispanic or multi-racial) person kills a black person it is not automatically about race. The media has insisted in leading us all to believe that, though. Two black kids burned a white kid to death 2 weeks ago. Why is no one screaming race in that case?!
this is what bothers me. I am dealing with a teenager who is black on a daily basis. We have been since he was a kid. Since this case, he thought it was cool to wear a hoodie and participate in the whole "racial" aspect. I told him it was disrespectful and dont appreciate people like the mayor of our city doing the same thing to work and seeing it as if he was Trayvon Martin... not true. Things happen. Its terrible but quit making it about race. There are issues in some parts of the country I assume, but I have experienced more racism toward myself being white than I have ever witnessed on any black person. Its frustrating.
It isn't just the question of whether or not Zimmerman followed and ultimately killed him due to racial profiling though. A good deal of outrage is also coming from the way the police (from a town that by many accounts has a lot of racial tension) handled the crime scene, investigation, and arrest (or lack thereof). Also the controversy of the "stand your ground rule". Sorry, but race did play a role in this case, whether from Zimmerman or the police or both.
Those kids are probably just victims of their environment, they're not to be blamed...blame everyone else but not them. Sorry, I see this all the time at work and find it enraging.
What happened to Trayvon Martin is horrible and I feel terrible for his family; but I feel that way for the families of the child victims of all crimes. I honestly think Zimmerman will go free unless the prosecuting attorneys have some super incriminating evidence that the public does not know about or several eye witnesses actually saw the altercation between these two.
I honestly think it would be better if the media could just stay out of things like this all together because all it does is get people in an uproar about things that they don't have all the information about and most are too stupid or ignorant to go and inform themselves more fully. If you're wrong, just yell louder.
It is funny because I totally agree with the aspect about media needing to stay out of it but I 100% disagree about the outcome.
I think that Zimmerman has already been tried in the media and there's no way they're going to find enough unbiased jurors to acquit him, and I think there is reasonable doubt in the case so he should go free.
There are too many people butting their noses into this case- why is Carmelo Anthony having his family up to NYC to tour the Knicks locker room and why is President Obama stump speeching about Trayvon Martin? The NBA and the role of the President have NOTHING to do with the local justice system/ criminal trial, and when influential people and role models speak out about things like this it taints public opinion and doesn't allow for a fair trial anywhere for the accused.
Stand up for something you believe in.
The only thing that made me give the side eye to the police were the reports that they never questioned him, but it's since been reported that that was false. There are plenty of wrongs with the "stand your ground rule," but not racially-wrong just dumb-law-wrong. I haven't read anything that made me think Zimmerman was racially motivated.
You can't convict a guy for murder, because there's a lot of racial tension in his town.
I'm gonna be honest, I haven't followed this case very closely (I don't watch the news, flame away).
BUT.
I feel like there are so many conflicting stories, so much shady information, that there is NO way to know what really happened. It's all so shady - all sides of it. It's hard to believe anyone. I feel like lots of people are hiding and covering things up, and others are trying to make it something it may not be. Makes me not believe ANYONE. And I'm afraid any semblance of a trial will be the same way, and no one will be able to convict Zimmerman on anything. Not that it's right, or how it should be, but it is what it is.
Just my uneducated 2 cents on the matter.
This is me too. I feel like its all lies and covers etc. it's gonna be like Casey Anthony again
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Right, but if a town's police force happens to include a lot of racist officers, it does effect the way they do that investigation, which is what some people are arguing happened here. If the roles were reversed, and a black man chased down and in the end shot a "white" guy in a hoodie then tried to claim self defense (and I'm not arguing here whether it actually was or not, because like nooner, I don't know we'll ever really know exactly what went down), I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have been treated very differently in large part because he is black. Especially in a town that has elevated racial bias and tensions.
Also, and no offense, but you can't say I think there's a stereotype of black men in hoodies, but that's not racism or that didn't play a part in what happened. Stereotyping which causes one to profile an individual soley based on the color of their skin is a form of racism.
The controversy of the "stand your ground", I agree, has nothing to do with race. My point with that was there is in fact more to this case than race, but to pretend race has noting to do with the entire series of events is a bit ignorant, IMO.
ETA: for clairty
I think you took my words wrong. I said it was ignorant to say race wasn't a factor...I did not say he shot him because he was black and I never said it was a hate crime. Zimmerman got out of his car to pursue Martin, against the 911 operator's instructions, and things escalated to which point Martin was shot (no one knows who jumped who, so, again I can't say anything was self-defense, but as he was the pursuer it's a little hard for him to claim such especially when the victim was unarmed...but I digress). If the fact that it was a black man in hoodie, and the stereotype that goes with it, was a factor in his initial reaction to pursue him, then racism is a factor. If the cops did a piss-poor investigation and follow-up of the crime because the victim was black, then racism is a factor. This is just all going back to your original statement that this case is not about race. That is the only point I was trying to make. Also, I didn't mean to say you specifically were ignorant, so if you took it that way I apologize.
I think you just made the point I was trying to make...in a much clearer way
This thread is just classic. I don't even know where to begin.
1. Racial Profiling. Look it up. Wait, you all don't seem to be the studious crowd. I saw Fox News talking points in this thread and research shows Fox News viewers tend to be less informed than others. So, racial profiling is what happened to Trayvon Martin. The automatic assumption that black = up to no good. If yo' azz clutches a purse in the elevator as an automatic response to seeing any ordinary old black guy, congratulations, you just did some racial profiling.