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VIDEOPro-choice groups livid that abortion debate will be reopened
VIDEOTories scramble after abortion commentsThe Conservative MP takes issue with Section 223 of Canada's Criminal Code, which states that human life begins when a child emerges from its mother's body.?The question is whether that's an accurate statement, an honest statement or a misrepresentation,? Mr. Woodworth said in an interview.Canada's been without an abortion law since 1988 when then-prime minister Brian Mulroney's attempt to codify the procedure was struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada. Prime Minister Stephen Harper has repeatedly said his Conservative government will not re-open the abortion debate.Some anti-abortion Conservative MPs have attempted to re-ignite the issue. Saskatchewan MP Brad Trost publicly criticized his own government last year for backing an overseas aid group that provided abortions.Opposition MPs say Thursday's debate wouldn't be happening if Mr. Harper wasn't considering re-opening the abortion issue.?I've never seen anyone control [his caucus] so absolutely as he does,? Opposition Leader Tom Mulcair said. ?If he didn't want that to be discussed, it wouldn't be there.??This is their backdoor way of signalling to their base that this is what they'd actually like to do and they just can't do it.?Mr. Mulcair said he won't have to whip his 100 MPs to vote against Mr. Woodworth's motion.?I want to be very clear. We're not going to have to impose anything because our caucus is unanimous on this. We are unanimously opposed to that motion and that approach.?Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae said he's personally opposed to re-opening the abortion debate but Mr. Rae said he won't compel Liberal MPs to toe that line because the issue is a matter of individual conscience.?If there are individuals in my caucus who feel strongly for moral reasons one way or the other, we're not going to whip the vote,? he said.Liberal prime ministers Jean Chr?tien and Paul Martin also had members of their caucus push to re-open the abortion discussion during their tenures.Over 50 activists rallied on Parliament Hill Wednesday, one day before Mr. Woodworth's private member's motion will be debated in the House of Commons.Julie Lalonde, a member of the pro-choice group Radical Handmaids, said she hopes their work will send Mr. Woodworth's motion ?back to the hell hole it came from.?
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UGH. Abortion debate being re-opened in Canada.
I thought we were passed this. Nope! And, since the Conservatives hold a majority government, it will not be difficult for them to pass new laws at all.
A House of Commons debate Thursday triggered by a backbench Conservative MP has led pro-choice forces to accuse the Harper government of trying to resurrect a divisive national discussion about abortion.Stephen Woodworth, who represents the Ontario riding of Kitchener Centre, will ask for a special parliamentary committee to discuss the definition of a human being when he rises in the House.MORE RELATED TO THIS STORYBackbench Tory files motion to study ?human being? definitionMPs have ?duty? to debate rights of unborn, backbench Tory arguesAbortion, gay marriage could be next on chopping block, Chr?tien warnsVIDEOPro-choice groups livid that abortion debate will be reopenedVIDEOTories scramble after abortion commentsThe Conservative MP takes issue with Section 223 of Canada's Criminal Code, which states that human life begins when a child emerges from its mother's body.?The question is whether that's an accurate statement, an honest statement or a misrepresentation,? Mr. Woodworth said in an interview.Canada's been without an abortion law since 1988 when then-prime minister Brian Mulroney's attempt to codify the procedure was struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada. Prime Minister Stephen Harper has repeatedly said his Conservative government will not re-open the abortion debate.Some anti-abortion Conservative MPs have attempted to re-ignite the issue. Saskatchewan MP Brad Trost publicly criticized his own government last year for backing an overseas aid group that provided abortions.Opposition MPs say Thursday's debate wouldn't be happening if Mr. Harper wasn't considering re-opening the abortion issue.?I've never seen anyone control [his caucus] so absolutely as he does,? Opposition Leader Tom Mulcair said. ?If he didn't want that to be discussed, it wouldn't be there.??This is their backdoor way of signalling to their base that this is what they'd actually like to do and they just can't do it.?Mr. Mulcair said he won't have to whip his 100 MPs to vote against Mr. Woodworth's motion.?I want to be very clear. We're not going to have to impose anything because our caucus is unanimous on this. We are unanimously opposed to that motion and that approach.?Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae said he's personally opposed to re-opening the abortion debate but Mr. Rae said he won't compel Liberal MPs to toe that line because the issue is a matter of individual conscience.?If there are individuals in my caucus who feel strongly for moral reasons one way or the other, we're not going to whip the vote,? he said.Liberal prime ministers Jean Chr?tien and Paul Martin also had members of their caucus push to re-open the abortion discussion during their tenures.Over 50 activists rallied on Parliament Hill Wednesday, one day before Mr. Woodworth's private member's motion will be debated in the House of Commons.Julie Lalonde, a member of the pro-choice group Radical Handmaids, said she hopes their work will send Mr. Woodworth's motion ?back to the hell hole it came from.?Mr. Woodworth says his motion does not propose any changes to existing law and simply sets out to discuss the current one. He said he hopes the motion is passed and that Parliament can have ?respectful dialogue? about the ?legal principles and evidence involv
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Re: UGH. Abortion debate being re-opened in Canada.
There go my plans to marry a Canadian.
Do you think this is being influenced by the tomfoolery down here?
It's one MP.
It will never even make it out of the gate.
I hate to say this, but I bet you it will. That one MP has a ton of support.
Think about the majority gov't in power. Plus a few fringe votes from the Liberals and you've got it open.
Then, when the debate comes in the fall, the same party is still in power. And there isn't a chance Stephen Harper will truly allow a free vote on the issue.
And to the PP who asked if its influenced by the tomfoolery down there - I do think it is in a roundabout way, just because we get so much media coverage about whats going on there. But even though the debate here has been a lot quieter, there will always be people trying to re-open it. Its just that right now is a good time given the party in power.
America's gift to our friends in the North. You're welcome.
Sigh.
The "majority" of MP's do not support this. I have no idea where you're getting that. At all.
The "majority" gov't represents 38% of voters.
They'd actually have to hold a referendum to pass this and it would NEVER happen.