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Women too picky on mates: Catholic church (Aust)
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8462938/women-too-picky-on-mates-catholic-church
The Catholic church has told women not to be too picky about their future husbands and marry early because there is a drought of eligible men.
A church official told the Herald Sun newspaper there has been a massive decline in the number of available men, with statistics claiming there are just 86,000 Mr Rights for 1.3 million women aged between 25 and 34.
Demographer Bernard Salt has calculated that of the 1.343 million men in the same age bracket, only 86,000 single, heterosexual, well-off, young men were available after excluding those who were already married (485,000), in a de facto relationship (185,000), gay (7000), a single parent (12,000) or earning less than $60,000 a year.
Reverend Father Tony Kerin, episcopal vicar for justice and social service in the Archdiocese of Melbourne, told the paper that women wanted the best of both worlds.
"I think many are setting aside their aspirations for later, but by the time they get around to it, they've missed their chance," Fr Kerin said.
"In trying to have it all, they end up missing out."
Re: Women too picky on mates: Catholic church (Aust)
Maybe I'm less picky than I should be, but how do either of these make men "unavailable"?
"You don't get to be all puke-face about your kid shooting your undead baby daddy when all you had to do was KEEP HIM IN THE FLUCKING HOUSE, LORI!" - doctorwho
Hey ladies, marry the first slob that comes along!
Yeah that'll do wonders for the divorce rate.
Actually, I think women are too picky about superficial factors like income and not picky enough about true compatibility.
(1) LOL...one priest says something to a newspaper = the Catholic Church.
(2) Was this the whole article? Because if it was, it truly is lacking.
I agree with this. However this unfortunate article doesn't really promote compatibility either. It just plays on your fears and suggests you should go for the first thing that pans out.
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what this article *is* saying.....if anything.
I want to know how many of those 1.3 million women are already married, in a de facto relationship, homosexual, single moms, or earn less than $60K...
Or don't want to be married...
The thing is is that I see nowhere where Father Kerin mentions these stats or even connects what he said with them. He mentions women wanting the best of both worlds and as a result missing out? What does that mean? It's as if his words were taken out of context and copied and pasted into an article about this other guy's research.
I think the priest probably has a good point but I just don't see how it necessarily has anything to do with these stats.
It seems to be, even the paper they reference to doesn't have anything more
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/catholic-church-claims-women-should-marry-earlier-and-not-be-too-picky-to-avoid-the-australian-man-drought/story-e6freuy9-1226348319404
Is the author of the article assuming that women who marry later have all these options beforehand, but turned them down to focus on career? Is that the underlying thought here?
Of my friends who are still single (in our early 30s), it's not an issue of being presented with so many options. It's that there HAVEN'T been options. What then?
Hasn't this always been something that floats around? I mean, 20 years ago in the movie Sleepless in Seattle they mentioned the statistic that women over 40 have a better chance of getting killed by a terrorist than getting married.
I was a teenager and I still wondered why this "statistic" was cited only for women and not men. Can't it be said that men are too picky?
Whatever. Stupid article and stupid statistic. Let's just scare women right back into the 1800's when being over 21 and single meant a lifetime of being a spinster. WTF.
I'm thinking that might be what the underlying thought is here, but who knows? lol
I was also thinking that the missing out part could be implying waiting too long to get married and then finding yourself too old to get pregnant.
Exactly! And sure, some women (and some men) can be too picky, but compatibility is grossly underrateded here. Why is it on women alone to be concerned about marriage and birth rates?
FTW. Also, how many of these 1.3 million women don't want to be married? Why is there the assumption that they want to get married at all?
So, is he an episcopal vicar or a Catholic?
I've never heard that terminology in the Catholic church.
I wonder if they are only discussing Sydney or all of NSW..
I know in my area of OZ they say the F/M ratio is over 50:1. But they attribute it to so many men in that age group leaving Australia to work, or fly in fly out to work in the mines, and many come home with foreign born wives (cough, like my H).
As for the not making 60k a year bit, being a SAHM is still a big deal up here and if your H only makes 60K you can't buy a home, raise a family and be a SAHM/SAHW. Well you probably could eek it out, but you wouldn't be living an easy life.
We can't live on 60k in a regional area and own a home, so I have to imagine that it would be even harder in the NSW/Sydney area.
That;s an excellent question! An episcopal vicar would probably be called a bishop in the RCC.
"I think many are setting aside their aspirations for later, but by the time they get around to it, they've missed their chance," Fr Kerin said.
"In trying to have it all, they end up missing out."
If that's all they've got as a quote, it comes across that the newspaper and/or the author are just looking for some shock value statement. I've seen it myself in both male and female friends where they have a harder time meeting someone as they get older and more of their peers are in steady relationships, and if the population does have a skewed F:M ratio, it's going to get harder for the women.
He just seems to be really out of touch. Most of the women I know who wait are doing so because they haven't met the right person and unlike in previous generations they don't prioritize a spouse to the point of settling. I think he doesn't get that point at all, so I don't think he even realizes his statement could be interpreted as "women should settle!". It seems like he just thinks there's a lot of women going "You know, I'm not going to date or look for a spouse until after xyz".
It has nothing to do with being Episcopalian. An episcopal vicar in the Catholic church operates under the bishop and essentially can perform his duties as needed. Some dioceses have them because they are too large for the bishop to do everything.
Oh, those don't matter! Women should just want to stay at home and chit out babies. Any other desires and she is just being too picky.
But, they might be married to someone earning less than $60,000, so obviously they'd jump ship for the right price.
There's no such thing as episcopal in Australia, so it must be a catholic term.