Baltimore Nesties
Dear Community,
Our tech team has launched updates to The Nest today. As a result of these updates, members of the Nest Community will need to change their password in order to continue participating in the community. In addition, The Nest community member's avatars will be replaced with generic default avatars. If you wish to revert to your original avatar, you will need to re-upload it via The Nest.
If you have questions about this, please email help@theknot.com.
Thank you.
Note: This only affects The Nest's community members and will not affect members on The Bump or The Knot.
Our tech team has launched updates to The Nest today. As a result of these updates, members of the Nest Community will need to change their password in order to continue participating in the community. In addition, The Nest community member's avatars will be replaced with generic default avatars. If you wish to revert to your original avatar, you will need to re-upload it via The Nest.
If you have questions about this, please email help@theknot.com.
Thank you.
Note: This only affects The Nest's community members and will not affect members on The Bump or The Knot.
I watched "On the Fly" last night - Edit to correct my dumbness!
I caught about 1/2 of it. The one thing that totally caught my eye was that the gate agent asked a passenger to change his shirt b/c it had an offensive word on it. I seriously have no idea what the word was - but maybe it was "***?" IDK.
The gate agent said since there were little kids and older people on the plane they'd like him to wear it inside out. The guy was cool and did it, but I was actually pretty shocked they asked him to change the shirt. I see people w/ offensive shirts all the time, it would never occur to me to tell them to change it to accomodate me. Is this something you would expect an airline to regulate on your behalf?
Re: I watched "On the Fly" last night - Edit to correct my dumbness!
I'd be offended and think he's pretty much a jackass too, on a personal level. But, this isn't something I'd expect SW to correct on my behalf, you know? I guess its good they do, but if you can't deal w/ people wearing offensive T-shirts in public places, you might need to stay at home. I guess my point is that, as another customer, this isn't something I would judge SW on or expect them to intervene about.
BFP#1: 01/10, M/C 6w -- BFP#2: 06/10, M/C 5w -- BFP#3: 09/10, DS born June 1, 2011
BFP#4: 07/12, M/C 5w3d -- BFP#5: 12/12, EDD 08/18/13
Decorate This
If the clothing has obscene language or images, we require them to change/turn it inside out. I think it said D!ck.
However, we cannot address "skimpiness". As long as private parts are not showing, we cannot say a word. So technically, not much more than a bikini is required.
I found the wording funny though "kids and old people may find it offensive". No one in between?
Thanks for clarifying - do you think having this "requirement" that people can't wear offensive clothing means that people are more or less likely to fly w/ you though? It just doesn't seem like SW should be in the business of regulating what customers wear to guarantee the personal comfort of other passengers.
I understand not wanting to offend people but I'm not sure I agree with the policy. Where do you draw the line?
For example, he said he has a shirt that says "I chase" with a picture of a cat, which has an obscene implication and may be considered offensive to some but would all Employees address it? Maybe, maybe not.
It's a gray area to say obscene is not ok but offensive is ok. Confederate flags, swastikas, etc can't be addressed. It just opens up too many avenues for complaints.
As a (future) parent, I know my kids are going to be exposed to these things so I wouldn't expect a company to have a dress code.
I must be a prude... which is unusual for me
I think it was totally understandable that they asked him to turn the shirt inside out. If I were a passenger and saw him wearing the shirt I wouldn't complain to SW, complain to him, or expect an employee to do anything about it - but I respect (and appreciate) that they have the policy and enforce it.
Did anyone see the story a few months ago (I think?) where a woman was asked to leave Legoland in Texas because she had a tattoo that could be considered offensive? The tattoo is of a naked Tinkerbell riding on a light switch. I'm wondering: thoughts on that? Many seem to disagree with SW's policy and asking the man to turn his shirt inside out, so I'm just curious how this other situation compares.
Text of the article below. Location of article, with photo of the tattoo (may be NSFW) - http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/04/heres_the_tattoo_that_got_a_mo.php
A Royse City mother is claiming discrimination after being kicked out of the Grapevine Mills Mall Legoland for her body art, and she's using social media to win support from noted activists Travis Barker, Yelawolf and, of course, Busta Rhymes.As Mr. Rhymes would say, here's the scenario: On Sunday, Lana Massey decided to surprise her 8-year-old son, a Lego fanatic, with a trip to Legoland. "He's overjoyed that such a place exists," Massey tells Unfair Park.
She paid $53 for access to Legoland Discover Center and the adjoining aquarium before proceeding to three separate playrooms. "The whole time we were in, we were followed" by a Legoland employee, the heavily tattooed Massey continues. "I was totally assuming that she was going to come up to me and ask me who my artist was."
Not quite.
The employee headed her off. "Ma'am, I need to give you your money back and ask you to leave," she said, according to Massey's account.
"Excuse me?"
"We've had some complaints about your tattoos. And this is a family-friendly environment."
Massey says she immediately felt discriminated against.
"So you're going to proceed with this unfair treatment against me because of the way I look?" she says she responded. "You're going to throw me out?"
According to Massey, that was that. The employee escorted her to the cashier's desk, gave her a refund, then escorted her out.
After hearing her story, we called Legoland, where officials say they didn't kick out Massey and her son because they didn't like her tattoos. They kicked her out because they didn't like one specific one.
"A guest at Legoland Discovery Center Dallas/Fort Worth was asked to leave due to customer complaints received about a visible offensive tattoo located on her lower leg," spokeswoman Kelle Jackson tells us by email. "As a family attraction geared to children three to 10 years old, our entrance policy guidelines allow our staff the absolute direction to refuse admission to guests wearing clothing or images on their person that are offensive in nature. The Duty Manager onsite acted in accordance to this policy, and offered the guest a refund or tickets to return another day with the graphic tattoo covered. Our offer to return to the attraction with complimentary tickets still stands with the understanding of our policy."
The tattoo in question, which is pictured above, is definitely attention-grabbing. But Massey says the ink is original artwork from the 1940s.
"No more offensive than zombie Jesus or guns promoting violence," she says. "Aside from any of that, there is nothing about tattoos in their policies, just inappropriate clothing. ... I could see if it was like a gaping vag or something like that, but I don't have anything like that." (Her friend does, apparently.)
Besides, the folks at Legoland never even mentioned her Tinker Bell tat. "That's not what they told me," Massey says. "She didn't specify any particular tattoo." She also claims that Legoland's employees never gave her the option of returning for free on a different day.
"The bottom line," she says, "is me and my son do thousands of things, and I've never been asked to leave."
I don't think you're a prude for thinking that way at all. I totally judge people who wear vulgar t-shirts in public and I think it's nice that a company is willing to risk business by asking people to cover up. I'm always amazed walking on places like the Ocean City boardwalk at how many wives/girlfriends would let their spouses out in public wearing some of the disgusting shirts they do.
Oh, and I totally judged the woman who was with the guy on last night's show. Yep.
OMG - that tatoo! I'd really like to see what that mom looks like overall!
Meh - yeah, I'd be offended and I feel pretty judge-y about her for having that, but I can sort of see Legoland's policy/point more than SW's - Legoland is designed to be a destination for children and that tatoo w/ its explicit sexual nature (as well as guns and/or Zombie Jesus) isn't really appropriate in a child-centered location; whereas SW is an airline; a public utility, if you will. If someone's "offended" by your loud, crying/screaming infant/toddler/preschooler, is it SW's job to keep them off the plane so you aren't offended?
I still think its a little silly though - people get all pearl-clutchy about lots of stupidshit - what makes some random Lego/SW employee the arbiter of what's offensive enough to warrant a request.
You're at freaking Legoland with a bunch of little kids. Cover up your naked Tinkerbell tat.
And I totally appreciate SW's policy.
lovelylittleworld
BFP#2 1/12/12 ~ Missed M/C 8w2d
Of all the things I've seen, there are two that irritated me the most.
1. 18 year old with a t-shirt that said "F*** You" and a big middle finger. Sitting there with his parents, on his way to military boot camp. Obviously we made him turn it inside out. I judged him and his parents.
2. Very large woman rocking spandex booty shorts and a strong bikini top with her boobs hanging out. I'm all for self-confidence but save it for the beach. I couldn't say a word to her but I judged the hell out of her!
I judge people for their appearances/attire but it takes a lot to offend me personally.
Yeah, do they not let you on the plane if you don't comply?
Yes, we can deny them boarding. We've pulled people off planes that turn that shirt back to right side out once they board.