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how to ask for a certain salary

I just was offered a new position within my same company.  It's in a different office so I will be relocating to an office which is about 10 minutes away from my current office.  The woman who currantly has the position is retiring in a few weeks and just have her notice.  She has been with our boss for a long time and probably makes pretty decent money.  I have been here for 1 1/2 years and only received a small cost of living raise at my 1 year mark.  I know that we have pay scales per job title so I'm not sure what that starts at but I currently make just over $30k...do you think it would be too much to ask for $35k?  I mean it's only a 4-5k raise so I don't feel like it's asking too much and I would have alot more responsiblities than my current position.  I'm not sure if they will tell me what they are willing to give me or ask what I had in mind so I'm a little nervous to want to start that conversation.  We are a close group and I feel comfortable with my boss but don't want to sound pushy or be an upstart.  They are currently talking with our HR dept. and getting an offer letter together so that it is official and I'm worried that if I wait until they give an offer letter they will only give me a tiny bit more money.  But on the flip side, my 2 yr. anniversary with the company is in Nov. so do I take what they offer now and hope that in a few months I'll get a raise then?  I hate talking about money and it just makes me nervous to ask for a raise or what the woman in the position currently is making. 
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Re: how to ask for a certain salary

  • Have you researched salaries for similar positions in your area? If you decide to ask for a raise, give a number that will allow room to negotiate.

  • I mean it's only a 4-5k raise so I don't feel like it's asking too much

    $4-5K is 13-17% more, that's a hefty raise.  So I wouldnt bank on that argument working out too well.  I agree with PP - do your homework and figure out what that position normally pays in your area and go from there.  If you have a good HR team you can also ask about that.  Also, I don't know why you or your supervisors didn't discuss salary before accepting the position.  Lesson learned for the future, ask first, then accept.

     

  • Personally, I don't feel that your current salary is really relevant. You are being offered a new position the new salary should be based on those responsibilities and your past experience in the field. If you haven't been given an actual offer letter there's nothing yet to accept or negotiate. I don't think you're too late for anything. This is just the beginning.

    The way I see it the offer is what starts the negotiation. Whatever you are given tell them you appreciate the offer and what to take some time to time to fully consider all the changes. In the meantime, research what you should expect in that position. Once the offer is received then start negotiating for an appropriate level based on the job itself and your experience. 

    Also, keep in mind that negotiating is not just salary but also PTO and other benefits. 

  • Negotiation is the skill, as you have to explain them why you want raise. If you are looking or ask for certain salary, they will only look into how you will justify your salary.
  • Thanks for all of the advice...the reason this was a bit unusual is because they are kind of making the position for me.  The secretary is retiring but I do PR and attend press conferences and meetings so to say I'm going to be just a secretary wouldn't be totally accurate.  I was approved for the amount of raise I was hoping for without even having to ask for it.  My supervisor was thrilled that everything was approved so smoothly.  I don't know my official start date for the new position yet as my boss and supervisor are on vacation but it will be within the next few weeks!  Thanks again for all of your suggestions and advice
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