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I'm so mad I'm shaking (sorry, long)

First a little back story. I graduated with my Bachelors in Psychology and minor in Family Relations back in December 2011. I then applied for grad school to get my Masters in Social Work, which wouldn't start until Fall 2012 so I had a semester in which I had no classes. I have a small loan that I didn't want to start paying interest on yet as well as only two classes left to finish up my certificate in Early Childhood Education so I figured I would hit two birds with one stone and take two classes at the community college in my town. 
 
(Keep in mind that I work very hard for my grades. My GPA when I graduated was 3.94 so hopefully that shows what kind of student I am).
 
Fast forward to the end of the semester, May 2012. One class, I get an 'A' in. Great. The other class gets posted. C!!! I immediately email the teacher. No response. I send a copy of the same email 2 weeks later. No response. After 3 weeks, I call on a Monday and leave a message. No response. I call again that Friday, she picks up! All she says over and over again is that she has "up to a year to change my grade". Frustrating! This was 1 week before I leave for a month long trip to visit DH in another state, so I wanted to get this taken care of (if we had to meet to look over my papers) before I left. No such luck. Later that day, she sends me an email back stating that I deserved a C because of: "2 absences, 3 tardies, and a paper that she gave me 10/20 on, which should have been 0/20 since it was late". For one thing, I was NEVER late to class, turned in EVERYTHING on time, and have only one absence in the 18 week school semester (I talked to her in class about it 3 weeks ahead of time and emailed her day of to remind her). 

I email back nicely to explain this. No response. I send a copy of the same email 3 weeks later. FINALLY got a response today: 
 
Teacher: "Jeannine~I will give you a "B" in the class, but I do not  feel like you did do "A" work by not  being on time, having absences, and turning in your work late and by not following directions for the assignments given on the syllabus."
 
My response: "As stated in my last email, I had only one absence, made a point to be on time to every single class, and did not turn in a single item late. Every single item was turned in on time, in class, directly to you."

Teacher: "I do not agree with all that you have stated and I will stand on giving you a higher grade of a "B", again, I could have given you no points for a paper that had nothing to do with the assignment.
I am sorry that you do not appreciate this grade change, as it was submitted to the college this afternoon."

Part of me just wants to give up. Yes, she raised it to a "B" but isn't it the principle of the matter. I tried so hard in the community college class that I didn't even need, just to have to fight for the grade that I KNOW I deserve. And now it feels like she's giving me a guilt trip for already changing it, like she's doing me favors and I am a spoiled, unappreciative brat. 

Luckily a B is better. But I'm still mad that I have to send this grade ahead to my graduate studies office to be added with my other classes. Luckily it's not a C, but still. 

I just wish others would try as hard as I do sometimes...

Sorry about all that. I just had to get it all out....
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  • Yes, I know it seems like a small inconvenience, but I have worked so hard to get to where I am. And getting a "C" really got to me. To top it off, a teacher who did absolutely no work. I'm now fighting it for the principle of the matter. I don't want her to get away with this, since I know she handed out similar grades to others in the class and she gets complaints about her to the chair of the department each semester. If anything, I want the chair to understand, there's another situation in which the teacher is being unfair, because, if anything, it could help out a future student. 
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  • WOW!  Although I feel your pain, my M.S. professors were similar.  Ask the ladies here how many times I had to complain about them.  I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do! 

     P.S. I have a B.A in Psy too!  And 2 M.S. degrees in School Counseling and Community Therapy.  I am an LPC. :)  You def, choose the right degree for Social Work.  I have found so many more jobs that want that degree than mine!  Great choice!  

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    WOW!  Although I feel your pain, my M.S. professors were similar.  Ask the ladies here how many times I had to complain about them.  I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do! 

     P.S. I have a B.A in Psy too!  And 2 M.S. degrees in School Counseling and Community Therapy.  I am an LPC. :)  You def, choose the right degree for Social Work.  I have found so many more jobs that want that degree than mine!  Great choice!  

     

    The main part that bothers me is that in the last email she called me unappreciative, like she did me a favor by giving me a grade closer to the one I deserve. 


    P.S. Great choice! I love my degree choice. I tease people saying I got my degree in manipulation and family. Which is somewhat true. But I love relationships, behavior, etc. I almost did Marriage and Family Therapy, but Social Work is so much more widely accepted! I love all the opportunities (and choices) I've already had! This next year, my field placement internship is at Head Start program, an early intervention program for children and families. I'm so excited to start. I definitely went "professional" business clothes shopping. Good excuse, right? haha 

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  • Wow, it sounds like that teacher needs some supervison.  Did she take attendance with a roll sheet to know you were late?  Otherwise how can she prove it?  To me that would be the only way she could dock your grade for the attendance part.  As for the assignment, it sound like a load of hooey but unfortunately teachers can do that if they feels it doesn't meet the assignment.  I'd be happy that she changed it to a B but I'd still be upset with her attitude towards you and that you at least deserved a B if not an A.  Maybe you can file a complaint against her?
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    Wow, it sounds like that teacher needs some supervison.  Did she take attendance with a roll sheet to know you were late?  Otherwise how can she prove it?  To me that would be the only way she could dock your grade for the attendance part.  As for the assignment, it sound like a load of hooey but unfortunately teachers can do that if they feels it doesn't meet the assignment.  I'd be happy that she changed it to a B but I'd still be upset with her attitude towards you and that you at least deserved a B if not an A.  Maybe you can file a complaint against her?

     

    We signed a paper for attendance, which I signed each time (except the one day I was actually absent). Actually about 3 weeks from the end of class, she came up to me before class started and said "Now, I know you're always here, but I have 7 absences for you" and then proceeded to pull out the papers. I had to sit there and point out where my name is on all the attendance sheets to prove I was there until there was only one absence. And on the last day, I even asked her if we were all cleared away with only one absence, and she said yes. 


    So she has the proof of me signing in, each and every time. Part of me is worried that maybe I missed one, but that's just the paranoid me. I'm actually the one who started the roll call sheet each class anyway (it was just a binder sheet of paper). I called the chair of the department yesterday. I am happy it was a B, so if anything, could be worse. But the fact that she's guilt tripping me into not pursuing this by saying I don't appreciate her generous gift, bleh. Just rude. 

     

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  • I had a professor that did a similar thing. I would go higher in the college and see if they have a grade dispute policy. My school did, and a friend and I started the process. I didn't get very far, because for the same reason, it was only a B+ instead of the A- I should have gotten, but still. It is the principle of the matter. Don't listen to her. I would dispute the grade. She is just trying to get you not too. I would also look into changing the grade to a pass/fail class if you can. At least that way, it wouldn't show on your gpa

     

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  • It's just frustrating because I chose this class because it was interesting to me. Didn't need it for any sort of requirement. And I got stuck with this teacher. I called the Chair of the Early Childhood Education department yesterday and left a message. Only thing is, the normal chair is currently gone and there is a step in chair currently. Who is a fellow instructor/co-worker as the teacher I'm disputing. Which could be difficult because teachers tend to be biased and stick together, rather than the Chair who has to protect their instructors, but keep an open mind :/ We'll see how this goes
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  • Part of the job of the chair is to handle first step disputes, so they should stay neutral. In any case, the school should have someone called an ombudsperson, who handles students who feel they are treated unfairly. Just keep working up if you need to, and don't be surprised if it takes some time. My friend's claim took almost a year. I wish you a lot of luck getting this straightened out. I am so glad I have my diplomas in hand!
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