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Anyone want to discuss Dorner or Oscar Pistorius?
These stories are so fascinating/terrifying/sad to me. Anyone else want to discuss?
Re: Anyone want to discuss Dorner or Oscar Pistorius?
Dorner was a loose canon piece of crap, imo. I'm a little surprised at the uproar over his killing.
The Pistorious is so, so sad. I don't know anything about him. Do you? He was a mess at court, guilt? Can't believe he did it? Or upset he is in so much trouble?
I wonder if he had a history of domestic abuse.
My gut tells me the tears are more "upset he is in so much trouble." I don't know much about him either but I heard reports that he does have a history of abuse and his story of thinking she was an intruder just doesn't add up in my mind.
That is how I'm leaning. I'll have to google him.
Her poor family.
Yeah, the rumors are there that there's a history, plus he seemed pretty paranoid. She was shot 4 times...I'm not really buying the intruder story, I think there's something else going on whether it be abuse or him being on something and out-of-sorts.
I just read that Reeva Steenkamp was to give a talk this week at a Johannesburg school about violence against women.
How ironic.
I agree.
I have read a couple articles that say police knew sending tear gas "burners" into the cabin would cause the fire. There are audio recordings on youtube of police yelling, "burn the motherf*cker down".
IF that is the case, I feel that the police saved the state of California a good chunk of change on a trail, and keeping Dorner in prison until the state paid to execute him.
How does a white man shot up a movie theater and live to talk about it and the police set a black man on fire alive? Sounds KKKish to me but its the police, so go ahead...He doesn't deserve a trial.
If the LAPD purposefully set him on fire they are just as corrupt as Domer claimed them to be and I really don't feel bad that Domer did what he did. At some point, you need to rise above it and if they set him on fire on purpose, they are no better than Domer. I am irritated over the Dorner thing.
The Oscar killing is very sad. Domestic violence is so real in our society and others. Domestic violence is one of the causes I feel very strongly about and support (ex. sit on the board of the local domestic violence center, give money, etc.).
They said he died from a gunshot wound to the head. Possibly he did it himself as the fire burned. If that's a cover-up, I guess we don't know. But that's the info we have.
I don't doubt the LAPD is corrupt. I believe there's a lot of truth to his manifesto. But the man was a killer of innocent people and I have no sympathy for him.
I really don't know what to think about the Pistorius story. On one hand, I can see why he would be paranoid considering the alarming violent crime rate in South Africa coupled with the fact that it isn't like he could go run after an intruder, I imagine that would make him feel pretty vulnerable. I also read that in 2010 the guards in his community were in cahoots with criminals and there were a lot of home invasions at that time.
However, on the other hand, there were reports of domestic abuse and neighbors said they were yelling at each other the night before. That makes me think this was intentional.
I did not know this, I thought that the fire was an accident. Was this recorded before or after the fire started? If before, that is just wrong. If after, that might be a gut reaction to a very tense situation.
I always felt he would shoot himself if cornered. I also have no sympathy for the same reason.
Sad indeed.:(
Pistorius
I think this is going to be a very hard case to try. IMO, it could really go either way. I read that some neighbor retracted their statement and didn't actually hear yelling before the shooting and that there wasn't any history of abuse. She never told anyone she was abused in any way. Also, there were two cell phones in the bathroom with her, and none were used. If she was fearful for her life, I would think she would've made a call, assuming she had time. Also, the mortician said her bladder was empty, which is consistent with using the bathroom. Upon death, your bladder does get emptied but according to the mortician, that wasn't what occured. So maybe he did just become paranoid and think it was an intruder?
Either way, I think the prosecution is making a mistake by going for 1st degree murder. They have to prove that he planned this ahead of time, when really it just sounds as if it was a moment of rage (if it was murder).