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One of the most condescending articles I have ever read!

Rage. Can you imagine if something like this was written about "Daddys". Oh right, no one would do that! 

http://ow.ly/kq3zZ

Heather Margaret --- Feb '07 and Todd Eldon --- April '09

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Re: One of the most condescending articles I have ever read!

  • Is that missing a word? Like Mommy Blogger Business trip?  Cause I don't know what kind of business trips the author has been on before but none of the ones I have been to include any of that.
  • Oh and in this house Daddy's business trips tend to include a sporting event with free food and drinks, or a dinner at a nice place with drinks, or a happy hour event.   but there are always the drinks.
  • All I can say is WOW......
  • A nice response from one of the quoted women on the unfortunate way her comments were tailored to fit the skew of the article.

     http://tinyurl.com/d52py5s

    Heather Margaret --- Feb '07 and Todd Eldon --- April '09

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  • Yeah right... I wish my business trips allowed me to party, sleep till 8:45 and hit up the mini bar while lounging around in my hotel watching TV. Who could blame moms or dads for enjoying the occasional "conference" if that were the reality!

    Too bad real life work trips repay me for my time away from my kids with working twice as many hours as my salary pays, waking at the crack of dawn, standing on my feet or running around all day and barely being able to stay awake for the evening social events, which often end with me going back to my room to catch up on email. Then return home to unpack and attend to the gazillion other things that piled up at home while I was gone. Where's that infographic?!

    (ETA: not to mention traveling while you have a nursing baby, utilizing every spare moment to pump milk in a storage area or bathroom, all the while praying you'll be allowed to carry it onto the plane without incident and it won't spoil or spill before you get home)

  • imageAmandaJLewis:
    Is that missing a word? Like Mommy Blogger Business trip?  Cause I don't know what kind of business trips the author has been on before but none of the ones I have been to include any of that.

    Every conference I've gone to with sponsorship has included perks from the sponsors trying to get me to use their products - drinks, dinner, tours, etc. Some of the details are different (the French market theme?!), but none of what is described is atypical at a professional conference in many fields.

    And on top if that we get the idea that women SHOULD feel guilty for leaving their kids for any reason, but at least when they go to these conferences their reason is legitimate. But of course, their business is really to serve social needs and isn't about the money or their intelligence or their abilities as business people.

    So. Much. Anger. 

    Heather Margaret --- Feb '07 and Todd Eldon --- April '09

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  • http://tinyurl.com/ct2v9gc

    The above might link to the infographic, I'm having trouble linking it from my phone.

     Also, I just noticed that this article is in the "Life & Culture" section and not in Business. 

    **headdesk** 

    Heather Margaret --- Feb '07 and Todd Eldon --- April '09

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  • This reads like something from the 1950's, especially the graphic. 
     
  • Indifferent

    And someone please find me one of these conferences to attend!!  

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    Jake - 1.15.08
    Liam - 5.17.11
  • I don't even know where to begin with this one.
  • imageAmandaJLewis:
    Is that missing a word? Like Mommy Blogger Business trip?  Cause I don't know what kind of business trips the author has been on before but none of the ones I have been to include any of that.

     

    I was thinking the same thing. Although, I have been on business trips like this but they were car shows and dealers are drunks. Wink

  • imageMrsAmers:
    And on top if that we get the idea that women SHOULD feel guilty for leaving their kids for any reason, but at least when they go to these conferences their reason is legitimate. But of course, their business is really to serve social needs and isn't about the money or their intelligence or their abilities as business people.

    THIS. Very much this.  

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  • imagesarahandtim:

    imageMrsAmers:
    And on top if that we get the idea that women SHOULD feel guilty for leaving their kids for any reason, but at least when they go to these conferences their reason is legitimate. But of course, their business is really to serve social needs and isn't about the money or their intelligence or their abilities as business people.

    THIS. Very much this.  

    Yep! 

  • Possibly a point has been missed. These women somehow manage to blog and make money doing so. I don't know how, but they do. Or they seem to at least have well read blogs and strive to attempt to profit from having well read blogs and need to learn how. Maybe instead of calling it a business trip it should simply be called a conference. And when attending a conference, they start at various times in the day and you attend the various seminars that you want to hear and the events and dinners and such that you want to attend. Some of it is to learn and some of it is to network. This is essentially what they are doing here. It probably is too much to liken it to a business trip but if they are attempting to take the knowledge and networking and utilize it to their benefit and profitability then it's not entirely different than any other conference. A business trip is something an employer sends you on but as a self employed individual a conference is something that you attend yourself to further your business. We may not agree with their business or "jobs" but they seem to be serving a purpose to some, even if its just by reviewing products. It's not conventional but not everyone is conventional. Conferences allow more flexibility. You all know this. The business trip my husband is going on in a few weeks is including a golf game. So stressful for him. 
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  • After yesterday's discussion on this, I had to laugh when I opened my email today and saw the macaroni kid newsletter. at the top was a huge banner ad for The Mom Con.

    One of the "conferences" Amy's article referenced is coming to the Greentree Doubletree next month. Now we all have a nearby excuse to get away Stick out tongue

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  • imagelishie:

    After yesterday's discussion on this, I had to laugh when I opened my email today and saw the macaroni kid newsletter. at the top was a huge banner ad for The Mom Con.

    One of the "conferences" Amy's article referenced is coming to the Greentree Doubletree next month. Now we all have a nearby excuse to get away Stick out tongue

    Really, the one coming here looks much different than the ones in the article. Blogher and the like, primarily attract women who have built a business or income with a blog or a home business. There are some hobby bloggers who attend, but the majority are entrepreneurs or who treat their blog like a small business. The one in Greentree looks more like "How to take care of yourself and be a better mom." And it is a one size fits all conference with no session choices. It's more of a "self-improvement day" than a conference... 

    The whole point is that the conferences mentioned in the article are about building businesses, but those conferences are minimized and made fun of because they are for WOMEN in business. 

    Heather Margaret --- Feb '07 and Todd Eldon --- April '09

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  • imagecarcrashheart:
    A business trip is something an employer sends you on but as a self employed individual a conference is something that you attend yourself to further your business. We may not agree with their business or "jobs" but they seem to be serving a purpose to some, even if its just by reviewing products. It's not conventional but not everyone is conventional. Conferences allow more flexibility. You all know this. The business trip my husband is going on in a few weeks is including a golf game. So stressful for him. 

    Agree! 

    Heather Margaret --- Feb '07 and Todd Eldon --- April '09

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  • For me, the point of this whole discussion is that, no matter what the conference deals with (employer sponsored, or blogger related), the article implies that women should feel guilty.  Am I working 24/7 when I go to conferences?  Of course not.  Do I get to do dinner with other grown ups, and maybe even go have a drink at the end of the day?  Yep.  Do I feel guilty for doing this while my husband (aka-the father of my children) is home?  not at bit. 

    That being said, I don't even love going to conferences.  I get bored sitting through them all day, then when I come home, I feel behind there.

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    Jake - 1.15.08
    Liam - 5.17.11
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