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FHA vs. conventional mortgage

I'm just beginning the research as a first time home buyer. I have fantastic credit, and we have great income, but we live in a really high cost-of-living area so if we try to save 20% for a down payment it'll be 4-5 years (a typical starter house costs 350-400K). I've been reading about FHA mortgages and the 3.5-5% down options, and I can see the additional costs of PMI, but I feel like there must be more strings. Are there secret strings? Are closing costs higher? Are the rates markedly higher? (they don't seem to be from browsing online).

We're going to sit down with a lender soon and get more specifics, but I'm curious what your experiences and opinions are. TIA.

Re: FHA vs. conventional mortgage

  • SisugalSisugal member
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    Beginning June 2013 PMI will remain for the whole 30 years of the mortgage.  That is a great deal of extra money.

    I would take the 4 years to save 20%. Take on second PT jobs, downscale your lifestyle, current rental etc. To get the 20% sooner.

  • FHA does have a lot of secret strings (currently longer time with PMI and higher closing costs) and as the PP said starting in June those strings get worse.  Talk to your lender about a conventional loan but with less than 20% down.  We didn't think that was even an option, so we were planning on going with FHA.  But then our lender said we qualified for a conventional loan with 5% down and we jumped on that because the fees were much less and the minimum time with PMI was 2 yrs vs 5 with FHA (soon to be forever with FHA).  Definitely talk to the lender and the more down you can put the better. 
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  • Agreed with PPs.  Talk to a lender or mortgage broker in your area.  We live in a HCOL area as well; we're putting 10% down, taking a second mortgage for the other 10%, and avoiding PMI altogether.

    PMI can be extremely expensive.  If we had gone the FHA route, we would have been paying an extra $300/month for all 30 years.  Crazy! 

  • Conventional will generally (but not always) be a cheaper option.  We did a conventional with 5% down and we are paying PMI.  Our PMI is about half the amount we would have paid with a FHA loan and we did not have to pay any up-front PMI.  Our payment is $120.month on a $250k loan and our closing costs were only $3400.  I believe the estimated FHA closing costs were somewhere around $6000.

    We ran the numbers on a few different loan types and the conventional was definitely best for us.  If you choose a lender they can run through the estimated numbers with you to give you an idea of what would be best for you. 

  • In addition to costing more, there are also additional home inspection requirements for a FHA loan that may rule out a house that you want. Homes must be considered by FHA to be safe and in decent repair, so an uneven sidewalk or a roof that will need to be replaced in the near future can become a problem on inspection. If a seller isn't willing to fix the issue, you would be forced to walk away from the house because you couldn't get the loan.
  • LadyGLadyG member
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    We also live in a HCOL area. We are putting 10% down, have great credit, and are using a conventional loan. Because of that, we had a variety of options for financing - some with PMI and some with lender-paid PMI. With LPMI, the interest rate is slightly higher. In our case, the LPMI was a better choice than us paying the PMI directly, but that was because the rates were very similar. You have to run the numbers to see what is better for your situation. 

    I would avoid the FHA loans if you can qualify for a conventional one given that PMI is now permanent, and some of the other issues outlined below.

     

  • Maybe it is just because I live in a lower cost-of-living area, but we got approved for a conventional loan (no mortgage insurance, 30 yr fixed rate, about 3.6%, with 3% down).  Admittedly, closing costs seem high, but we didn't get preapproved anywhere else to see if they would differ at a different lender. 

    Your mortgage professional will be able to give you a lot more details and you might be surprised by what you get approved for!

     

  • If you're seeking to sell a home, you'll want to make sure that it will pass FHA inspection.Many property buyers these days are backed by FHA (FHA) home loans. Is your sale house up to FHA standards? If not, you are missing out on potential buyers. Pay for your home inspection with a <a title="Living With a Short Term Personal Loan" href="https://personalmoneynetwork.com/short-term-loans/">short term loan</a>.
  • If you're seeking to sell a home, you'll want to make sure that it will pass FHA inspection.Many property buyers these days are backed by FHA (FHA) home loans. Is your sale house up to FHA standards? If not, you are missing out on potential buyers. Pay for your home inspection with a short term loan.
  • I am currently in the middle of a contract with a townhome in MN under a FHA loan. So far I haven't seen or heard anything that I an unhappy with. I think this is the best loan option for first time home buyers and especially looking at town homes. With an association fee I am not responsible for exterior (roof) maintenance so that is not an issue for the inspection/appraisal. I am putting a mear 3.5% down and the terms I have signed require the seller to pay 3% in closing costs. On the upside, a townhome isn't somewhere most first time home buyers are planning on staying for more than 8-10 years. (I know I'm certainly not) so the 30 year PMI doesn't bother me and if you look at it in those figures, it is a great deal, convenient and will free up thousands that I don't have to pay immediately. Good Luck in your process. I know now from experience it is an excited yet nerve racking process from start to finish!
  • duckie1905duckie1905 member
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    edited August 2014
    Definitely FHA is the best loan option for first time home buyers and especially to those who are looking at town homes. 
    This is not remotely true.  FHA many times is NOT the best option.  While I agree that it is the best option for some, it is not the best option for many.  Also, your post is pretty blatantly a commercial for this loan officer and mortgage company.  Not allowed on the boards.

    My husband and I are first time buyers in a HCOL area and looking to buy a townhome.  We are putting 10% down (required 5) through a credit union.  The entire experience has been kind of amazing, in terms of dealing with our credit union.

    Take a look at all our options.  FHA, large bank, small bank, credit union, etc.  I bet you can find multiple options to review so you pick what is best for you.
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  • KENlawrence brought up in her solicitation.

    But for anyone now reading this thread, H and I purchased with a conventional loan with 5% down. Our PMI will expire once we hit the 20% which will happen in 9 years (or less with larger payments or if the value of the house goes up).

    This gave us an option to do less then 20%, not have to PMI for the life of the loan and not have to worry about as many repairs during the inspection. 
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  • Oh hell, I didn't even notice that. GRRRRRRR.

    I hate zombie threads.
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  • It's been reported.  Hoping @NestCayla or someone will deal with it.
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