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Nice to know who the House of Reps is loyal to - vent

The House of Reps is trying to kill the bill that is going to push the digital conversion back.  Even though millions of people cannot make the conversion because they can't afford cable or new tvs,  cable isn't available,  or there are no more coupons or boxs.  The spirit of this country is in the basement,  so you are going to take one of their main sources of enjoyment away?  We are already supposed to be stupid enough to believe this conversion is for 'our' good,  so when they have a chance to actually help the people they refuse?   When the switch to color was made,  at least your black and white tv still worked!

We know politics is corrupt,  they've been really driving it home the last few months,  but another slap in the face of how the average citizen isn't worth much is just so sweet.

Re: Nice to know who the House of Reps is loyal to - vent

  • I just don't get why they are trying to enforce a deadline on the switch date.  I don't know enough about it obviously but still. 
  • While I don't agree with the way this whole conversion has been handled in the longer run it will be better for everyone.

    The analog signals current open air TV broadcasts on are also the same signals that emergency responders use.  By switching TV over to the digital signals it frees up more analog signals for emergency resonders to use.  Philadelphia has a huge problem with their police and firefighters getting consisitent usuage of signals from time to time.  The government will also be selling portions of the analog signals to cell phone providers which equal revenue for the government which should help with funding without raising taxes.  The operative word being should.

    What I don't understand is why a person can't just walk into a Best Buy or other electronics store and pick one up for free.  Can't the government just keep a registry of who gets one?  Name, address, phone # and SS# should do it.  This whole coupon nonsense is just that.

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    What I don't understand is why a person can't just walk into a Best Buy or other electronics store and pick one up for free.  Can't the government just keep a registry of who gets one?  Name, address, phone # and SS# should do it.  This whole coupon nonsense is just that.

    Because then they can't use this to make money,  which is the whole reason for the deadline.  They thought everyone would run out and buy, buy, buy.  Problem is - no one has the money!  They've been promising this conversion since I was in HS (ten year+),  and those waiting to buy the bandwidth finally got a deadline set and don't want it to budge. 

    A government that gave a darn would see situations have changed and they planned awfully,  and work out a better plan.   Like your suggested free converter boxes.

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    Because then they can't use this to make money,  which is the whole reason for the deadline.  They thought everyone would run out and buy, buy, buy.  Problem is - no one has the money!  They've been promising this conversion since I was in HS (ten year+),  and those waiting to buy the bandwidth finally got a deadline set and don't want it to budge. 

    A government that gave a darn would see situations have changed and they planned awfully,  and work out a better plan.   Like your suggested free converter boxes.

    I thought the coupons were for a free converter box?

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  • Simple...let's all boycott TV!!  That would be insane!!  Can you imagine what would happen if the nation boycotted the entertainment industry????
  • I;m sorry but I am tired of hearing about this digital conversion crap... They have been advertising it steadily on tv for well over a year now!!>. I see tons of commercials for it everyday!!!! They have been running digital tests for months now. If someone isnt prepared for it, then it their own fault and not because of a mandated goverment switch!!
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    I;m sorry but I am tired of hearing about this digital conversion crap... They have been advertising it steadily on tv for well over a year now!!>. I see tons of commercials for it everyday!!!! They have been running digital tests for months now. If someone isnt prepared for it, then it their own fault and not because of a mandated goverment switch!!

    I have to agree. Setting the date back will not help the situation.  Most of this country is ready to go, the government had to have known there would be a certain percentage of people that weren't going to be ready.  There are people in this world who procrasinate to no end.  Whether the date is next month or next year they still wouldn't be prepared.  Sometimes the movitivation they need is the very thing they're lacking.

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    imageleiakat:

    Because then they can't use this to make money,  which is the whole reason for the deadline.  They thought everyone would run out and buy, buy, buy.  Problem is - no one has the money!  They've been promising this conversion since I was in HS (ten year+),  and those waiting to buy the bandwidth finally got a deadline set and don't want it to budge. 

    A government that gave a darn would see situations have changed and they planned awfully,  and work out a better plan.   Like your suggested free converter boxes.

    I thought the coupons were for a free converter box?

    The coupons are only $40 dollars off and one per home.  They cost $60-90,  and are needed for each tv.

  • imageChris&Dan092405:
    I;m sorry but I am tired of hearing about this digital conversion crap... They have been advertising it steadily on tv for well over a year now!!>. I see tons of commercials for it everyday!!!! They have been running digital tests for months now. If someone isnt prepared for it, then it their own fault and not because of a mandated goverment switch!!

    Do you know how much a digital tv is,  about $300 for the smallest size.  Most people have had more important things to do with their money,  like buy food, pay the mortgage,  health care, ect.  Plus if you can even find a converter box,  many areas they are still not available because enough were not made.  And then there are the areas that cable is still not available. 

    It isn't a big deal if you have extra wealth,  but the low-income person can not afford to 'up-grade'  It isn't a issue of not wanting to,  it is an issue of not having the ability to. 

  • From DTV2009.gov

     

    Consumer Options

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    What should I do to be ready for the television transition?
    Analog television sets receiving free TV using an antenna will not work after February 17, 2009. Television viewers with these sets that are not connected to a pay TV service will need to take action before February 17, 2009, to ensure their TV sets continue to work. Consumers have a variety of options.

    Options to explore include:
    1. Keeping your existing analog TV and purchasing a TV converter box. A converter box plugs into your TV and will keep it working after Feb. 17, 2009. It usually costs between $40 and $70, or
    2. Connect to cable, satellite or other pay service, or
    3. Purchase a television with a digital tuner.
    If you?re not sure what to do, take a quick quiz to help you figure out your options at www.DTVTransition.org
     
     
     
     
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    2.
    Where can I purchase a converter box?
    The list of certified retailers is available here. Consumers will also receive a list of nearby participating retailers?as well as online and telephone retailers?when they receive their coupons.
     
     
     
     
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    3.
    Will I need to buy a new television after February 17, 2009?
    No, you will not need to dispose of your analog TV after February 17, 2009. If you receive your TV programs for free using an antenna?that is, your TV set is not connected to cable, satellite, or other pay TV service?you can purchase a TV converter box and plug it into your existing TV set to continue to receive TV programs after February 17, 2009. You can also use your existing television set and subscribe to a pay TV service, such as a cable or satellite provider.
     
     

     

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    4.
    Do I need a converter box if I have cable or satellite?
    TVs connected to cable, satellite, or other pay services do not require a TV converter box from this program to receive programs after February 17, 2009. Check with your cable or satellite provider to determine how they will support your analog set after February 17, 2009. The Federal Communications Commission has issued two very helpful consumer advisories on the switch to digital for pay TV services at http://www.dtv.gov/publications.html
     
     
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    5.
    Will I still need an antenna to receive programming? Will I need to purchase a ?DTV antenna? or ?HDTV antenna? to receive digital television signals?
    You should be able to receive digital television signals with your existing broadcast antenna. If after you have installed your converter box you are having reception problems using your existing antenna, you may want to contact either your local broadcaster or the retail store where you purchased the converter box. Troubleshooting advice can be found at www.antennaweb.org or via the Federal Communications Commission at www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvantennas.html.

     

  • oh and converter boxes cna be bought anywhere....most ppl just think of Best Buy or Circuit City and forget about Radio Shack, WalMart, Target, Sears, Boscovs, Kmart, anywehre that sells TVs... and most households do not need them... most households have cable so they are already ready for the switch!!
  • Actually most household do NOT have cable.  Times are hard and a lot of people have given up their cable.  Also there are many areas of the country that do not have cable services,  I've worked with many in the South and West Virginia area.   My parents area didn't have cable the majority of my childhood,  and that was in Chester County, PA.  Converter boxes can not be bought anywhere,  they did not make enough.  That is part of the push for a delay,  to make more boxes.   Also most of the coupons expired before converter boxes were being sold in stores.  The whole conversion plan was full of errors.

    It is not an issue for people that can buy new tvs in the last few years or can afford cable,  but as more and more people lose their job that becomes less of an option.  I don't think anyone has missed we are in a financial meltdown right now.   How hard is it to have consideration for those who aren't as lucky as you?  Does it mean people that want digital lose it,  no.  Does it mean the over six million (per Nielson's estimate) homes that can't make the switch will not have useless boxes sitting in their living rooms in two weeks,  yes.  I really can't see why anyone would be that thoughless.

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