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12-06-2008 at 9:16 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> Not trying to lecture but alcohol and early pregnancy does have risks!!! --> http://www.oasas.state.ny.us/fasd/faq.cfm I have read many similar research reports during a couple of college social work courses and I don?t mean to lecture but the ease of the "drink till its pink" mantra is worrisome because the first few weeks are so critical to the development of the nervous system. May not be implanted with umbilical chord but toxic chemical can still be shared. Also, if many of us are taking a while to conceive, wouldn?t you want to increase your odds for the better?  Alcohol may interfere with the implantation!  I can understand have a few cocktail pre O but during 2WW... it?s just too much to risk.  Wouldn't it be worth it to sacrifice those 2 weeks to give the potential life the best start possible? ...just my thoughts on the topic.

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12-06-2008 at 9:17 PM

irishgirlmd Joined on 09-25-2008 Winston-Salem, NC 40 Posts 773 Points --> --> Yay!! Someone else agrees with me. (and medical facts )  whoohoo!!

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12-06-2008 at 9:19 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> Im now running to put myself in a bubble for the next god knows how long until I get knocked up and have my baby so this way there is no way to jeapordize my childs health from a bit of alchohol during the weeks when it hasnt even implanted yet, no rollercoasters, no soft cheeses, no grilled meat or sushi...Life is boring as fvck now

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12-06-2008 at 9:20 PM

sulfababy Joined on 10-25-2007 1,334 Posts 26,491 Points --> --> I think the idea behind "drink till it's pink" is not to consume extreme amounts of alcohol.  I take it to mean it's okay to have a glass of wine a couple times in the two week wait.  Abstaining from everything that could potentially be harmful became a reminder and a source of stress for me.

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12-06-2008 at 9:21 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> sulfababy: I think the idea behind "drink till it's pink" is not to consume extreme amounts of alcohol.  I take it to mean it's okay to have a glass of wine a couple times in the two week wait.  Abstaining from everything that could potentially be harmful became a reminder and a source of stress for me. exactly and well Many medical professionals feel it is even safe to drink the occassional glass of red wine while pregnant.

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12-06-2008 at 9:21 PM

nikinikinine Joined on 06-14-2004 Clifton Park 419 Posts 9,139 Points --> --> I don't think anyone on here is binge drinking while TTC, but it doesn't hurt to live normally throughout the process.  People get pregnant all the time with out charting, green tea, preseed, OPK's, and all of the other crap that we've introduced into our lives and they never once stop their normal routines.  It's good to take conception seriously, but come on.

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12-06-2008 at 9:22 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> --> why does it have to be one extreme or another... I wasnt saying that we can't have a life until we conceive.  But we can be reasonable especially during the 2WW, right?

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12-06-2008 at 9:22 PM

MrsBeckO Joined on 07-16-2008 823 Posts 17,486 Points --> --> nikinikinine: I don't think anyone on here is binge drinking while TTC, but it doesn't hurt to live normally throughout the process.  People get pregnant all the time with out charting, green tea, preseed, OPK's, and all of the other crap that we've introduced into our lives and they never once stop their normal routines.  It's good to take conception seriously, but come on. My thoughts exactly.

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12-06-2008 at 9:23 PM

irishgirlmd Joined on 09-25-2008 Winston-Salem, NC 40 Posts 773 Points --> --> Even a glass or two has not been proven to be safe.  And I would say abstaining from alcohol and possibly a few other things is a far cry from putting yourself in a bubble.  Especially when you are potentially putting your fetus at risk.  There is no way to know exactly when implantation occurs either - you can estimate - but you can't know exactly.

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12-06-2008 at 9:23 PM

FutureMrs.Thomaston Joined on 03-22-2007 TN 840 Posts 15,807 Points --> --> skinnursemandee: Im now running to put myself in a bubble for the next god knows how long until I get knocked up and have my baby so this way there is no way to jeapordize my childs health from a bit of alchohol during the weeks when it hasnt even implanted yet, no rollercoasters, no soft cheeses, no grilled meat or sushi...Life is boring as fvck now I'm glad someone else found this as offensive.  We aren't drunkards!

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12-06-2008 at 9:23 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> --> Again, we all do what we can... was just putting the info out there.

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12-06-2008 at 9:24 PM

nikinikinine Joined on 06-14-2004 Clifton Park 419 Posts 9,139 Points --> --> p.s. I used to work for OASAS, the NY State Department you took those facts from, and OASAS funds and monitors social programs for former crackheads, drunks and some of the worst forms of addiction.  The people they evaluate aren't every day people.  They are people who have taken vices to an extreme.

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12-06-2008 at 9:24 PM

Tootermi Joined on 04-20-2007 South Jersey 553 Posts 11,456 Points --> --> I think the stress of TTC is enough without worrying about what you're eating and drinking especially if you've been trying for a while....and not to mention if you drinking that much that you need to worry about it...you should be in AA and not trying to make a baby

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12-06-2008 at 9:24 PM

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12-06-2008 at 9:49 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> Re: Not trying to lecture but alcohol and early pregnancy does have risks!!! --> Again, we do what we can given what we know now... that's all that's being said here.

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12-06-2008 at 9:50 PM

Tootermi Joined on 04-20-2007 South Jersey 553 Posts 11,456 Points --> --> Mrs.PeachyKeen: Nowhere in that article was it mentioned that drinking during the 2ww was dangerous.  It specifically states that the risk is with the shared umbilical cord which occurs after you have a +HPT.  Also, it mentions that you should get drinking under control(not abstain) prior to pregnancy.  That statement alone makes this sound like the information is focused on people who have alcohol related problems - not someone enjoying a nice glass of wine with dinner.  You can have your opinions, but if you cite a reference make sure that it backs up your claim.        Amen my sistas!!!

"When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible"--Harry, When Harry Met Sally BFPB to Bill&Cheryl, FlipFlopChick, Jkipp82, and TessGrec

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12-06-2008 at 9:52 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> MrsPeachyKeen...I big fluffy you!!

My Blog My Chart TTC since 2001, I have beautiful little angels just waiting to pick the perfect baby from heaven for us to have. We are nearing the end of our TTC journey, praying for a christmas miracle. Then its on to adoption for 2009. Cancer took away my dream of becoming pregnant but it wont take away my dream of becoming a mother.

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12-06-2008 at 9:52 PM

2006july15bride Joined on 05-26-2006 Rockland County, NY 1,129 Posts 24,895 Points --> --> I am now REALLY regretting the 1/2 glass of wine and 1/2 glass of sangria I had at my party last night.  Should I get my BFP tomorrow it will mean I am already an abusive parent and that my child will be born sick.  Oh my what have I done???? (this is what this post is saying about people like me, basically)  How long have you both been TTC?? Maybe the first 2 months I felt this way, but by cycle 6 I pretty much stopped putting my life on hold to be disappointed over and over again!!!!

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12-06-2008 at 9:52 PM

sulfababy Joined on 10-25-2007 1,334 Posts 26,491 Points --> --> So, in the end, the ladies who abstain from all alcohol in the 2ww have not changed their minds.  The ladies who drink in moderation have not changed their minds.  It seems to me that (especially being the self-selected group that takes TTC seriously enough to be on this forum in the first place) everyone here has thought through this already, and chosen whether or not to abstain based on their own reasons.

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12-06-2008 at 9:53 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> --> sorry I know longer have access to research reports from the university i attended 10 years ago...

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12-06-2008 at 9:55 PM

Mrs.PeachyKeen Joined on 09-19-2008 Smyrna, GA 363 Posts 7,168 Points --> --> skinnursemandee: MrsPeachyKeen...I big fluffy you!!  Awww - Thanks!!  It is mutual.

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12-06-2008 at 9:56 PM

Tootermi Joined on 04-20-2007 South Jersey 553 Posts 11,456 Points --> --> Mrs.PeachyKeen: Nowhere in that article was it mentioned that drinking during the 2ww was dangerous.  It specifically states that the risk is with the shared umbilical cord which occurs after you have a +HPT.  Also, it mentions that you should get drinking under control(not abstain) prior to pregnancy.  That statement alone makes this sound like the information is focused on people who have alcohol related problems - not someone enjoying a nice glass of wine with dinner.  You can have your opinions, but if you cite a reference make sure that it backs up your claim.        Amen my sista!

"When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible"--Harry, When Harry Met Sally BFPB to Bill&Cheryl, FlipFlopChick, Jkipp82, and TessGrec

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12-06-2008 at 9:56 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> MrsLeslie030405: sorry I know longer have access to research reports from the university i attended 10 years ago... for the love of god ::head desk::

My Blog My Chart TTC since 2001, I have beautiful little angels just waiting to pick the perfect baby from heaven for us to have. We are nearing the end of our TTC journey, praying for a christmas miracle. Then its on to adoption for 2009. Cancer took away my dream of becoming pregnant but it wont take away my dream of becoming a mother.

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12-06-2008 at 9:57 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> sulfababy: So, in the end, the ladies who abstain from all alcohol in the 2ww have not changed their minds.  The ladies who drink in moderation have not changed their minds.  It seems to me that (especially being the self-selected group that takes TTC seriously enough to be on this forum in the first place) everyone here has thought through this already, and chosen whether or not to abstain based on their own reasons. Precisely!!

My Blog My Chart TTC since 2001, I have beautiful little angels just waiting to pick the perfect baby from heaven for us to have. We are nearing the end of our TTC journey, praying for a christmas miracle. Then its on to adoption for 2009. Cancer took away my dream of becoming pregnant but it wont take away my dream of becoming a mother.

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12-06-2008 at 10:00 PM

edimler Joined on 10-02-2007 Colorado 514 Posts 10,426 Points --> --> ohhhhh shit... I guess the 2  very lovely glasses of wine I just consumed while out to dinner must have killed my unborn child. shit lock me up now...

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12-06-2008 at 10:03 PM

Tootermi Joined on 04-20-2007 South Jersey 553 Posts 11,456 Points --> --> I don't know if this is quite the same...but it may be...I take a couple prescription meds that I know I won't be able to take once I am KU. When I talked to my GYN/OB about TTC she told me to continue to take them until I get a BFP. So, I guess I suck, too. She said no sense in stopping before there's a reason to.

"When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible"--Harry, When Harry Met Sally BFPB to Bill&Cheryl, FlipFlopChick, Jkipp82, and TessGrec

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12-06-2008 at 10:04 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> --> HOLY SH!T  are you all kidding me?!?  This will be my last post on this... I was not judging or lecturing or accusing. Just putting info out there. Damn, yeah I suck because I am new to TTC and have a differing take on this.  I was not judging on who is a better mother or any crap like that.  No one is perfect nor can we live in a bubble... but then again I was not suggesting that either.  Please don't read more into the actual words in my OP.  Yeah, I am bad too because I don?t eat all organic either!   WE DO THE BEST WE CAN Demonize me all you want for having a differing stance.  There was no meanness meant.  It?s a free country and I just was saying what was on my mind. There, done.

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12-06-2008 at 10:10 PM

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12-06-2008 at 9:49 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> Re: Not trying to lecture but alcohol and early pregnancy does have risks!!! --> Again, we do what we can given what we know now... that's all that's being said here.? ?

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12-06-2008 at 9:50 PM

Tootermi Joined on 04-20-2007 South Jersey 553 Posts 11,456 Points --> --> Mrs.PeachyKeen: Nowhere in that article was it mentioned that drinking during the2ww was dangerous.? It specifically states that the risk is with theshared umbilical cord which occurs after you have a +HPT.? Also, itmentions that you should get drinking under control(not abstain) priorto pregnancy.? That statement alone makes this sound like theinformation is focused on people who have alcohol related problems -not someone enjoying a nice glass of wine with dinner.? You can have your opinions, but if you cite a reference make sure that it backs up your claim. ?? ? ? Amen my sistas!!!

"Whenyou realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, youwant the rest of your life to start as soon as possible"--Harry, WhenHarry Met Sally BFPB to Bill&Cheryl, FlipFlopChick, Jkipp82, and TessGrec ?

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12-06-2008 at 9:52 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> MrsPeachyKeen...I big fluffy you!!

My Blog My Chart TTCsince 2001, I have beautiful little angels just waiting to pick theperfect baby from heaven for us to have. We are nearing the end of ourTTC journey, praying for a christmas miracle. Then its on to adoptionfor 2009. Cancer took away my dream of becoming pregnant but it wonttake away my dream of becoming a mother.?

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12-06-2008 at 9:52 PM

2006july15bride Joined on 05-26-2006 Rockland County, NY 1,129 Posts 24,895 Points --> --> Iam now REALLY regretting the 1/2 glass of wine and 1/2 glass of sangriaI had at my party last night.? Should I get my BFP tomorrow it willmean I am already an abusive parent and that my child will be bornsick.? Oh my what have I done???? (this is what this post is saying about people like me, basically)? How long have you both been TTC?? Maybe the first 2 months I feltthis way, but by cycle 6 I pretty much stopped putting my life on holdto be disappointed over and over again!!!!

Helping my best buddy stand up to cancer since 10/25/08. TTC #1 Cycle 6 BFPB to yellowb ?

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12-06-2008 at 9:52 PM

sulfababy Joined on 10-25-2007 1,334 Posts 26,491 Points --> --> So,in the end, the ladies who abstain from all alcohol in the 2ww have notchanged their minds. ?The ladies who drink in moderation have notchanged their minds. ?It seems to me that (especially being theself-selected group that takes TTC seriously enough to be on this forumin the first place) everyone here has thought through this already, andchosen whether or not to abstain based on their own reasons.

~TTC since January 2007~~Hectic Rembetic~ Nest A-Z Glossary**Your Posts?

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12-06-2008 at 9:53 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> --> sorry I know longer have access to research reports from the university i attended 10 years ago...

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12-06-2008 at 9:55 PM

Mrs.PeachyKeen Joined on 09-19-2008 Smyrna, GA 363 Posts 7,168 Points --> --> skinnursemandee: MrsPeachyKeen...I big fluffy you!! ?Awww - Thanks!!? It is mutual.

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12-06-2008 at 9:56 PM

Tootermi Joined on 04-20-2007 South Jersey 553 Posts 11,456 Points --> --> Mrs.PeachyKeen: Nowhere in that article was it mentioned that drinking during the2ww was dangerous.? It specifically states that the risk is with theshared umbilical cord which occurs after you have a +HPT.? Also, itmentions that you should get drinking under control(not abstain) priorto pregnancy.? That statement alone makes this sound like theinformation is focused on people who have alcohol related problems -not someone enjoying a nice glass of wine with dinner.? You can have your opinions, but if you cite a reference make sure that it backs up your claim. ?? ? ? Amen my sista!

"Whenyou realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, youwant the rest of your life to start as soon as possible"--Harry, WhenHarry Met Sally BFPB to Bill&Cheryl, FlipFlopChick, Jkipp82, and TessGrec ?

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12-06-2008 at 9:56 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> MrsLeslie030405: sorry I know longer have access to research reports from the university i attended 10 years ago... for the love of god ::head desk::

My Blog My Chart TTCsince 2001, I have beautiful little angels just waiting to pick theperfect baby from heaven for us to have. We are nearing the end of ourTTC journey, praying for a christmas miracle. Then its on to adoptionfor 2009. Cancer took away my dream of becoming pregnant but it wonttake away my dream of becoming a mother.?

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12-06-2008 at 9:57 PM

skinnursemandee Joined on 09-20-2008 Gwinnett County, GA 2,808 Posts 53,745 Points --> --> sulfababy: So,in the end, the ladies who abstain from all alcohol in the 2ww have notchanged their minds. ?The ladies who drink in moderation have notchanged their minds. ?It seems to me that (especially being theself-selected group that takes TTC seriously enough to be on this forumin the first place) everyone here has thought through this already, andchosen whether or not to abstain based on their own reasons. Precisely!!

My Blog My Chart TTCsince 2001, I have beautiful little angels just waiting to pick theperfect baby from heaven for us to have. We are nearing the end of ourTTC journey, praying for a christmas miracle. Then its on to adoptionfor 2009. Cancer took away my dream of becoming pregnant but it wonttake away my dream of becoming a mother.?

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12-06-2008 at 10:00 PM

edimler Joined on 10-02-2007 Colorado 514 Posts 10,426 Points --> --> ohhhhhshit... I guess the 2? very lovely glasses of wine I just consumedwhile out to dinner must have killed my unborn child. shit lock me upnow...

TTC #1! ~Emily (26) DH (35) ?

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12-06-2008 at 10:03 PM

Tootermi Joined on 04-20-2007 South Jersey 553 Posts 11,456 Points --> --> Idon't know if this is quite the same...but it may be...I take a coupleprescription meds that I know I won't be able to take once I am KU.When I talked to my GYN/OB about TTC she told me to continue to takethem until I get a BFP. So, I guess I suck, too. She said no sense instopping before there's a reason to.

"Whenyou realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, youwant the rest of your life to start as soon as possible"--Harry, WhenHarry Met Sally BFPB to Bill&Cheryl, FlipFlopChick, Jkipp82, and TessGrec ?

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12-06-2008 at 10:04 PM

MrsLeslie030405 Joined on 04-21-2006 new to N. Cal 625 Posts 12,190 Points --> --> HOLYSH!T? are you all kidding me?!?? This will be my last post on this... Iwas not judging or lecturing or accusing. Just putting info out there. Damn,yeah I suck because I am new to TTC and have a differing take on this.?I was not judging on who is a better mother or any crap like that.? Noone is perfect nor can we live in a bubble... but then again I was notsuggesting that either.? Please don't read more into the actual wordsin my OP.? Yeah, I am bad too because I don?t eat all organic either!??WE DO THE BEST WE CAN Demonize me all you want for having adiffering stance.? There was no meanness meant.? It?s a free countryand I just was saying what was on my mind. There, done.

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12-06-2008 at 10:10 PM

bbin09 Joined on 07-01-2008 USA 775 Posts 15,014 Points --> --> MrsLeslie030405: HOLYSH!T? are you all kidding me?!?? This will be my last post on this... Iwas not judging or lecturing or accusing. Just putting info out there. Damn,yeah I suck because I am new to TTC and have a differing take on this.?I was not judging on who is a better mother or any crap like that.? Noone is perfect nor can we live in a bubble... but then again I was notsuggesting that either.? Please don't read more into the actual wordsin my OP.? Yeah, I am bad too because I don?t eat all organic either!??WE DO THE BEST WE CAN Demonize me all you want for having adiffering stance.? There was no meanness meant.? It?s a free countryand I just was saying what was on my mind. There, done. ? Noone is demonizing you. You are the one who started a whole new threadon this subject. This is a discussion board, and you will get opinionsthat differ from yours.

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