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talk to me about morph

So I never knew DH's exact s/a results. All we were told was they were normal. Morph was low but in the normal range. Well I just got the copies of our records from the RE and DH's morph was 2%! That's not normal when right there it says normal = >4%. Now I feel like our first 3 clomid cycles were a waste and this explains why we've only got pg with IUI, even though the RE didn't think that there was a problem.

This s/a was almost a year ago now and we did have significant improvement from iui#1 to iui#2 in terms of count etc. but now I'm wondering if he should be getting another s/a or if we are going to do IUI if it even matters.


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TTC since August 2011
Cycle 8,9,10 - 50mg Clomid - BFN
Cycle 11, 100 mg Clomid & IUI#1- BFP 2/23/13 - m/c 4/2/13 @ 9w2d
Cycle 13, 100 mg Clomid & IUI#2 - BFP 6/27/13 - CP
Met with an awesome new RE in September 2013 new plan: 5mg Femera & IUI #3
Surprise Natural BFP 9/9/13 - Welcomed our baby boy 5/25/14

TTC Buddies with *noelcallum* - Congratulations!
Knottie Besties with *SparklingDiamond* - Congratulations!

Re: talk to me about morph

  • Ummm first of all WTF to your RE for saying it was normal!! Secondly, I would probably opt for a second s/a to see if there are any changes or if someone can explain the results and their implications better.

    Cheering on all of my 3T ladies!  DX with PCOS - 11/2012 DH S/A & HSG - Normal - Too many rounds of Clomid = BFNs - New RE 5/2014 - Repeat Testing - Losing 40lbs before injects/IUI



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  • ILoveRedVinoILoveRedVino member
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    edited August 2013

    I honestly don't know much about morph.

    I do know, though, that H's count changed drastically between treatments.  Last spring (2012), he had 30 million.  This past fall, our first IUI was 16 mil and it continuously fell to 7 mil by March-ish.  I know this sounds crazy, but his strenuous exercise in spandex (running and biking) was most likely the problem.  He cut it out and the count was up by the time for IVF in May.

    ETA -- this count was after being cleaned or whatever - taking out those with bad morph.

     

    IUI - BFP! Baby boy born still - August 2012
    IVF - BFP - miscarriage June 2013
    FET - BFN
    FET - BFN
    Switched clinics
    IVF with PGD - three embryos created, all healthy - July 2014
    FET - transferred two embryos (boy and girl) - Nov 2014 - BFP!
    Baby Boy born July 2015

  • DHs morph was 1% at his original S/A.  But our RE wasn't too concerned because his count was so high.  He though IUI was at least worth a shot.  Unfortunately, his count dropped with each IUI to the point where it now was an issue.

    Morphology is a tough one to identify a cause and "fix".  Count and motility seem to be affected by lifestyle/diet/medicine changes but in the research I've done, morphology rarely changes.  That is unless you can identify a medical reason for it that can be repaired by surgery (like a varicocele).





    dx:  Unexplained IF (mild MFI)

     TTC since May 2011, 1 year trying, and then 3 TI, 2 IUI = BFN

    IVF #1 (May 2013):  Antagonist Protocol: 
    24R, 18M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 2 early blasts, no frosties = BFN
    IVF #2 (August 2013):  Lupron Stop Protocol: 
    28R, 23M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 1 partially hatched blast, 7 frosties = BFP
    EDD 5/23/14, blighted ovum (6w6d), D&C (8w6d)
    FET #1 (April 2014):  transferred 2 5d blasts = BFP

    C.J. born 01/09/15

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  • WTF? Seriously, I'm new at this but I cannot believe that they told you that was normal. I would probably ask for a repeat S/A. My husband's results came back normal and the urologist still sat there and explained to us the results and what they meant. My RE was ready to do the same for me, but I told him that the urologist was very helpful. Good luck! I'm so sorry you were mislead!
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    TTC 24 months, IUI #3 BFP 6/4/14 Beta 6/5 58, 6/9 508, 6/11 1227 TWINS! EDD 2/15/15
    With heavy hearts, we said goodbye to our precious angels on 8/12 at 13 weeks 2 days.
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    IVF #1 Lup/Brav/Meno, ER 11/28 10R/10F, ET "Rudolph" 4AA embryo 12/3, 7 frosties.
    BFP! Betas: 12/12 225, 12/15 706, 12/17 1512. EDD 8.21.15
    12/29 hb 120. 1/5 perfect, GRAD DAY! 1/15 perfect at OB. NT 2/6 PERFECT, HB 158!

    Baby Girl born 8.9.15 at 38.2 due to IUGR 4lb7.8oz 17" 
    Our princess is being watched over by her older siblings every day <3
    Anniversary 

  • I would suggest another S/A
  • First, I'm so glad you are going to another RE based on this. I would suggest getting another SA done. Sorry, ecinereb. :(
    TTC #1 since Feb. '12. dx: "unexplained" IF
    After 2 shitty IVF cycles and 1 loss at 6+2 (EDD 11/7/14), DH and I are pursuing DIA.
    11/17/2014 - ACTIVE AND WAITING!
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    Pregnancy was never the end goal; being a mom was.
    I've been holding out on GP: I got drunk once and started a blog: Here it is (11/7 update)
    3T<3

  • Before getting a new SA, I would meet with your new RE and ask if it would change the plan at all if DH's morphology was 2% vs. 4% (or normal.)  If it doesn't change things, I wouldn't bother.

    My DH had 1% morphology and although my doctor told us it was low, it didn't change our IUI plan.  His count numbers were always so high though that 1% of DH's count was way higher than 4% of the "normal" count (if that makes sense.

    Diagnosed with Severe DOR at 31 years old (AMH .14 FSH 9.8) 
    D & L are here at 34 weeks 4 days by vaginal and breech delivery on 11/19/2013

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