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Help me...My husband wont stop Drinking

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edited November 2013 in Trouble in Paradise

Im in some serious need of GOOD advice! (bare with me as I need to explain my story) My husband and I were together for 3 years before getting engaged, then we were engaged for 3 years before getting married. We've been married for about a year and half; he didn't use to drink but about 2 years before getting married he moved to AZ to go to school and get a degree (we lived apart). Of course the guys he befriended drank which gave him an open door. After graduating he found his dream job and we moved to CO. After 1.5 years at the new job the shop closed down and he was laid off, we struggled for about 6 months till he started at his new job (which is much better). During our 6 month struggle he worked at a liquor store for 3 months...which is when the problem really started. He was spending $$$ every month in booze and finally I had enough and we had a full out fight about it. I threated to put him in AA, as much as he drank it wasnt a matter of him being "drunk" but rather the amount could not be healthy and the pocketbook was really being strained. He realized his problem and said he would stop, well that lasted till he got the new job (the good job) but I think he felt cause he was making better money he could afford the habit again :( I let it go for a while until my patience reached it's threshold and got into it again, he threw his debt card at me and said, "There now I cant use it". I did hold it for a while but I told him that's not how I wanted to do things, I should be able to trust him and not manage him like a teenager. We made an agreement about 2 months ago to only purchase and consume alcohol on the weekends (unless special occasions). Over the last 3 weeks he has been pushing the envelope yet once again; buying it on a thursday and saying that he will give up a weekend day (which never happens). We recently had some large purchases as well as an unexpected visit to the ER (which is very costly). This last pay period I told him NO MORE extra spending till we get paid cause we were going to have only enough for bills and gas. Well he had bought a LARGE vodka bottle and said that would last him the 2 weeks (which I knew wouldnt happen becuase I knew he was going to drink it everyday) SURE ENOUGH he's been drinking it every day...so it lasted him a week and just last night he bought more vodka and I confronted him calmly and asked him why he kept doing this and that it needs to stop. He said he would try......I just don't know what to do, I don't know how to make a change. Any advice would be appreciated.

Re: Help me...My husband wont stop Drinking

  • For starters, if you truly believe(d) he is an alcoholic, you guys should not have agreed to an "only on the weekends" schedule.  Alcoholics can't drink, period.  I'm a smoker - last time I "quit" I picked up a pack and said "only on the weekends."  Well guess who's back to smoking daily? 

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm gathering from your post that this is less of a "I think my husband has a drinking" problem and more of a "My husband is spending too much on booze" problem.  But buying alcohol when you can't afford it, going through a large bottle of vodka in a week, fighting with you when you try to discuss the "problem" - all signs point to alcoholism.  It's pretty clear that he simply can't control himself.

    Unfortunately, you can't make him change.  He has to want to change.  Start attending Al-Anon and talk to people who are in similar situations and who can provide you with resources on how to cope.  I suggest a very open, honest conversation with him about your concerns and your desire for him to quit.  He probably can't do this on his own and he should start going to AA.

    I'm sorry you're going through this.  I know how difficult it is to deal with an alcoholic.  You have to remember that it's not as easy as saying "Just stop drinking, just put down the drink."  You guys have a tough road ahead of you.  Wishing you the best of luck.


  • See my reply on the other board.

    He's got a problem WITH drinking.

    There is peer pressure, plus he is drinking too much AND it is causing you and he to argue.

    It's time for you to get to AlAnon and time for him to get to AA. His drinking can escalate into full blown alcoholism.

    What I would tell him, if I were you -- and stick to your guns:

    "I love you but not your drinking. You are to get to AA and get a sponsor and get a grip on your drinking or it's over between us. Choose now; it's the booze or me."

    And if he doesn't get his ass to AA immediately, you leave. SImple as that.

    There are meetings everywhere and even if it is too late to get to a meeting, I am sure AA has a number you can call to speak to somebody immediately.

    1 (800) 570 4562 is the number.


    There are hotlines for each state, I believe.




  • From your post I really think you have several problems, a big one is communication. You threatening to put him in AA is not productive nor is it possible. Him throwing his debit card at you is not acceptable behavior in an adult. He cannot and will not change because you say so. 
     It seems like way too much to drink a large bottle of vodka in a week/every day. Is he getting drunk, change in behavior/mood, etc.? You need to figure out what is bothering you. Is it spending money you can't afford or spending money on something you don't like? Does he really drink too much? Does he treat you differently? Focus on how this problem affects you, I would stay away from health or other things that really aren't getting at the issue. Try to talk to him in a calm way and focus on how you feel, like the raw honest emotions. Does he know why he feels the need to drink? 

    It would be helpful for you to go to Al-Anon so that you can gather resources and support.  


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  • I don't think this is just a drinking issue. 

    A fifth of vodka has about 16 shots in it. Over a week, that's slightly over 2 drinks a day. Maybe others see that as a problem, but I don't. A drink after work and one with dinner or one after dinner doesn't seem that crazy.

    The thing is, everyone is different. If it really is bothering you that he's drinking every day and you would prefer he not drink, you need to address that. If he feels he has not control over his drinking, he has to want to get help. Without really knowing the specifics, it's hard to tell what is going on.

    I don't understand spending money you don't have...on anything you don't need. That is what concerns me that either he has a problem, or for some reason he just isn't listening to you. 

    I guess you need to figure out what the real issue is (drinking, communication, respect for your feelings, or finances) and deal with that.

  • I don't think this is just a drinking issue. 

    A fifth of vodka has about 16 shots in it. Over a week, that's slightly over 2 drinks a day. Maybe others see that as a problem, but I don't. A drink after work and one with dinner or one after dinner doesn't seem that crazy.

    The thing is, everyone is different. If it really is bothering you that he's drinking every day and you would prefer he not drink, you need to address that. If he feels he has not control over his drinking, he has to want to get help. Without really knowing the specifics, it's hard to tell what is going on.

    I don't understand spending money you don't have...on anything you don't need. That is what concerns me that either he has a problem, or for some reason he just isn't listening to you. 

    I guess you need to figure out what the real issue is (drinking, communication, respect for your feelings, or finances) and deal with that.

    You really don't see a problem with 2+ drinks a day, every day? Ummmm...
    I mean, hell, a single glass of wine a day might be reasonable, I suppose, but a minimum of 2 shots of hard liquor every single day sounds like it would wreck a liver real quick.
  • I don't think this is just a drinking issue. 

    A fifth of vodka has about 16 shots in it. Over a week, that's slightly over 2 drinks a day. Maybe others see that as a problem, but I don't. A drink after work and one with dinner or one after dinner doesn't seem that crazy.

    The thing is, everyone is different. If it really is bothering you that he's drinking every day and you would prefer he not drink, you need to address that. If he feels he has not control over his drinking, he has to want to get help. Without really knowing the specifics, it's hard to tell what is going on.

    I don't understand spending money you don't have...on anything you don't need. That is what concerns me that either he has a problem, or for some reason he just isn't listening to you. 

    I guess you need to figure out what the real issue is (drinking, communication, respect for your feelings, or finances) and deal with that.

    You really don't see a problem with 2+ drinks a day, every day? Ummmm...
    I mean, hell, a single glass of wine a day might be reasonable, I suppose, but a minimum of 2 shots of hard liquor every single day sounds like it would wreck a liver real quick.

    Actually, it doesn't matter what the alcohol is. A 6 oz glass of wine has the same alcohol content as a shot of liquor or a regular beer. Light beer has less. It's all about alcohol content. 

    Moderate drinking for a man is 2-3 drinks a day. That does not "wreck a liver real quick". It may sound like it, but it doesn't. Excessive Tylenol use causes much more damage than that. If course everyone's body is different and can react differently. But no, I don't see problem with 2 drinks a day for a week. I would prefer that over binge drinking. 

    I've had patients who have a doctors order for 2 shots of alcohol or two beers a day. It can help with appetite. So again, no, not a big deal to me. 

    The issue here is is whether or not op's H can control himself and what is a big deal to her.
  • The issue here is is whether or not op's H can control himself and what is a big deal to her.

    This is where it is at: he's goit a problem with alcohol.

    As I said: there is peer pressure plus he can't seem to put a limit on what he is drinking. He's also manipulating his wife and they are arguing about his drinking: hence, he has a problem with alcohol.

    He needs to get to AA to get his drinking under control.  As I said also, it is possible his drinking can escalate into full blown alcoholism.

    I found a very good quote today in the "you comment" section; the on line article was about drug addiction and how tough it is to find treatment centers in our state:

    "Your loved one is capable. Think of how cunning, creative, and manipulative the addict is when they're trying to cop drugs....they can apply the same towards sobriety".

    He isn't a drug addict and he isn't copping drugs, but the context of the quote still applies to your H: if he can find creative ways to get ahold of booze and find creative ways to bend all of the rules and whys and wherefores, he can apply the same to getting his drinking under control.
  • I recently had a similar experience. My husband spent all our savings on alcohol and webcam girls. Here are some quick thoughts:
    • He is an alcoholic, no alcohol AT ALL. Do not drink or talk about drinking around him.
    • Try to support him, but he needs to want to change himself. You can't make him. 
    • There is something he is trying to bury emotionally, you guys need to find out what it is. Is he feeling the strain of supporting you guys? Does he have performance anxiety? etc..
    • I manage our money now but he has his own debit card. We used to have separate accounts. I would recommend amending anything separate, you guys are a team.
    • This is your decision but I told my husband that he is going to have to show he cares about being sober, otherwise, I'm gone.
    • During the aftermath, we found ourselves burying our emotions again. Try to recognize it and get them out there before something else happens.

    Sorry, I'm not terribly eloquent today. I wish you both the best of luck.

  • I also wanted to add that the type of alcohol is irrelevant. The emotional dependency is where the majority of damage is caused, not the liver.
  • I recently had a similar experience. My husband spent all our savings on alcohol and webcam girls. Here are some quick thoughts:
    • He is an alcoholic, no alcohol AT ALL. Do not drink or talk about drinking around him.
    • Try to support him, but he needs to want to change himself. You can't make him. 
    • There is something he is trying to bury emotionally, you guys need to find out what it is. Is he feeling the strain of supporting you guys? Does he have performance anxiety? etc..
    • I manage our money now but he has his own debit card. We used to have separate accounts. I would recommend amending anything separate, you guys are a team.
    • This is your decision but I told my husband that he is going to have to show he cares about being sober, otherwise, I'm gone.
    • During the aftermath, we found ourselves burying our emotions again. Try to recognize it and get them out there before something else happens.

    Sorry, I'm not terribly eloquent today. I wish you both the best of luck.

    Hold on a second here. Your H spent all your savings on alcohol and "webcam girls"?! I don't even know WTF that is. You're suggesting she make sure he has access to ruin her financially because "you're a team!" Seriously? No, no, no. 

    If someones H has financially ruined them over any addiction, separate the accounts first and foremost, then decide how you two will proceed. I would absolutely not give my H access to my money once he has proven himself irresponsible and I would totally understand If he did the same. 

    I agree that excessive drinking usually indicates a deeper problem. Your problems, I would have left that ass over. 

    Maybe I was older and wiser when I got married, maybe I'm just lucky, but seriously, I don't get how someone would marry someone with such extreme issues without realizing it before hand.

  • I recently had a similar experience. My husband spent all our savings on alcohol and webcam girls. Here are some quick thoughts:
    • He is an alcoholic, no alcohol AT ALL. Do not drink or talk about drinking around him.
    • Try to support him, but he needs to want to change himself. You can't make him. 
    • There is something he is trying to bury emotionally, you guys need to find out what it is. Is he feeling the strain of supporting you guys? Does he have performance anxiety? etc..
    • I manage our money now but he has his own debit card. We used to have separate accounts. I would recommend amending anything separate, you guys are a team.
    • This is your decision but I told my husband that he is going to have to show he cares about being sober, otherwise, I'm gone.
    • During the aftermath, we found ourselves burying our emotions again. Try to recognize it and get them out there before something else happens.

    Sorry, I'm not terribly eloquent today. I wish you both the best of luck.

    Hold on a second here. Your H spent all your savings on alcohol and "webcam girls"?! I don't even know WTF that is. You're suggesting she make sure he has access to ruin her financially because "you're a team!" Seriously? No, no, no. 

    If someones H has financially ruined them over any addiction, separate the accounts first and foremost, then decide how you two will proceed. I would absolutely not give my H access to my money once he has proven himself irresponsible and I would totally understand If he did the same. 

    I agree that excessive drinking usually indicates a deeper problem. Your problems, I would have left that ass over. 

    Maybe I was older and wiser when I got married, maybe I'm just lucky, but seriously, I don't get how someone would marry someone with such extreme issues without realizing it before hand.
    Ditto HERE!

    He needs to be GONE! How in heck did you manage to overlook the fact that this guy's got some kind of an addiction????

    And how is it that you didn't flat out leave his drunk ass once you realized he loved booze more than you???

    This is skewed and just plain nuts...and I am guessing you are not in AlAnon and he is NOT under the care of a drug and alcohol counselor/AA sponsor. This is a whole other thread in itself.

    you need to get rid of him, posthaste: You've got 2 or 3 dealbreakers, right there.
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