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Unhealthy weight gain/lifestyle

DH and I have been together for 7 years. He has never been a small guy. He's large framed and wasn't thin when we met. But he's gained at least 70lbs in that time. At first he blamed it on traveling for work, but he no longer travels. I try to make healthy dinners and have healthy foods around for lunches and breakfasts, but he orders delivery or buys snacks when he goes out for other things. He never exercises. I've tried to explain how worried I am about him, but he has to want to change. Both his parents have diabetes, and there is heart disease in the family.

I love him, but I'm struggling. The first thing is that I think if he were to have a serious medical problem from this, I would blame myself for not doing more for him. I'm also a very small woman, and now the mechanics of sex is physically challenging for me. I hate to say it, but I'm also less attracted to him, mostly because he doesn't care how his disregard for health affects me and our son, but also because he doesn't look like the man I fell in love with.

I've told him most of this. I have said before that sex is difficult while he is on top, but now it's all positions. We just have sex so infrequently that I haven't said anything. I haven't said anything about being less attracted to him, because I think that wouldn't be constructive.

Advice? I really want to help him be healthy more than I care about his weight, but it would be nice to have sex again. I've tried not keeping "bad" foods in the house, cooking all the meals, bought him a gym membership he didn't use, invited him to exercise with me, helped him enter calories into a tracking app, expressed concern numerous times, tried to back off and let him figure it out, offered to buy exercise equipment for our home so he wouldn't even have to leave, go on family walks, tried to talk about if he's eating his feelings, everything I can think of. I don't know what else to do to help him. I even asked him that and he had no answer.
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Re: Unhealthy weight gain/lifestyle

  • Is there anyway you could convince him to go to counseling? Maybe get help from family? You can't change someone who doesn't want to change. The only thing you can do is offer help and also let him know how much this is affecting you and if it at some point, you might leave because this isn't the lifestyle you want. 

    If he doesn't know that he's hurting you, he will consider to think it's not an issue. I really suggest trying to go to counseling. 
  • Why is it your responsibility for him to eat well and exercise? You know you can't force/convince/nag him into doing those things, so anything that happens as a result of his lifestyle is his business and his responsibility. He obviously doesn't want to do anything about it, and doesn't want you to do anything about it either. I think all you can do at this point is sit down and have a serious talk about how it's affecting you and your relationship. Then he can decide if it's time for him to make a change. It sucks that you can't control this, but I feel like the more you try to do for him, the worse the problem is going to get. It's his body and his life, and the change has to come from him.
  • Is it possible that he is depressed and unmotivated... or just lazy and doesn't care? 
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  • You posted about his weight and sex being a problem 4 years ago. Apparently this has been going on for quite some time. You should know by now you can't make him change. You can't badger him into it, having a kid wasn't going to change him, nothing is going to force him to get healthy. If he doesn't want to, he doesn't want to.

    He will likely end up like his family with weight related health issues. I can't imagine why you would take any sort of responsibility for that. This is his body, his choices, his consequences. I am not saying this to be mean, but you need to accept the reality of this situation.

    I guess you need to decide if you can love him how he is and stop trying to change him, or if this isn't how you want to live. I wouldn't want a spouse who was secretly turned off by my appearance. The problem is, once you tell him, you can't take it back.

    If this is a deal breaker for you, I would suggest choosing a partner in the future who shares a more compatible lifestyle.
  • edited February 2014
    bel138 said:
    DH and I have been together for 7 years. He has never been a small guy. He's large framed and wasn't thin when we met. But he's gained at least 70lbs in that time. At first he blamed it on traveling for work, but he no longer travels. I try to make healthy dinners and have healthy foods around for lunches and breakfasts, but he orders delivery or buys snacks when he goes out for other things. He never exercises. I've tried to explain how worried I am about him, but he has to want to change.

    Yep--- this is where it is at: HE has to want to lose weight.

    For himself and not anybody else.

    Both his parents have diabetes, and there is heart disease in the family.

    If there is a strong-arm physician who can read him the riot act and be as blunt and as ugly as possible what happens to somebody who has either or both, maybe that would wake him up.

    I am guessing your H is the nimby kind: Not in my back yard -- and that things like diabetes and heart disease happen to others --- wow, he is at risk for both since he is a blood relative and even more so since these are his parents.

    Maybe if a doc -- or YOU -- would tell him it is very possible impotence will be part of the disease process for both or either, it will wake your H up.

     I love him, but I'm struggling. The first thing is that I think if he were to have a serious medical problem from this, I would blame myself for not doing more for him.

    This is where you're wrong.

    The only one to blame if he develops some sort of health problem due to being overweight would be HIMSELF.

    NOT YOU.

    You aren't the one who is twisting his arm to eat garbage on a daily basis and you are not the one blocking the door so that he can't go out for a walk or get to the gym.

    HE is to blame. NOT YOU.

    I suggest exercise that you can do together as a couple -- what about ballroom/latin dancing or going otu for a walk, or rollerblading or riding a bike or jogging together? or sign up for a coed kickbox class together.

    Just a few of the activities I can name that you can do together. You'll also get quality time with each other.

    You can start cooking light -- find a Weight Watchers cookbook or a diabetes-positive cookbook --- there are quite a few of them in print -- and make meals using those recipes. You do not have to tell him that you're cooking light.

    I'm also a very small woman, and now the mechanics of sex is physically challenging for me. I hate to say it, but I'm also less attracted to him, mostly because he doesn't care how his disregard for health affects me and our son, but also because he doesn't look like the man I fell in love with. I've told him most of this.

    You have told him this and he's done nothing. Too bad.

    I have said before that sex is difficult while he is on top, but now it's all positions. We just have sex so infrequently that I haven't said anything. I haven't said anything about being less attracted to him, because I think that wouldn't be constructive. Advice? I really want to help him be healthy more than I care about his weight, but it would be nice to have sex again. I've tried not keeping "bad" foods in the house, cooking all the meals, bought him a gym membership he didn't use, invited him to exercise with me, helped him enter calories into a tracking app, expressed concern numerous times, tried to back off and let him figure it out, offered to buy exercise equipment for our home so he wouldn't even have to leave, go on family walks, tried to talk about if he's eating his feelings, everything I can think of. I don't know what else to do to help him. I even asked him that and he had no answer.
    It may be possible he is discoraged because he knows he's got quite a bit of weight to lose -- maybe he figures, "What's the use? Why bother?" And he figures no fat guys go to the gym so what's the use.

    Men lose weight quicker than women.  They are mostly muscle and not fat and that's why.

    He is going to have to have some sort of rock bottom moment -- and that is the only way he'll realize he's got to lose weight. Maybe he'll see photos of himself taken at a family gathering and he won't like what he sees, or some pair of pants will split up the back seam or maybe somebody else will remark about what a good chunk of weight he's gained and he won't be happy with the remark.

    No amount of begging or gym memberships will help him --- he's going to have to decide for himself.

    What would work  -- and it would be cumulative:

    If he cuts out sugary drinks and replaces them with something else with no sugar or if he gives up his daily latte at the coffee stand or stops going out to lunch and brown bags his meals ---- whatever he does and if he cuts them out of his daily consumption or even indulges in them maybe once or twice a week --- that would get rid of a pretty good chunk of empty calories.

    This is accessible and realistic.

    There is a guy I know who gave up eating at a luncheonette and instead went to a Chinese food place and had lunch instead -- he lost 60 pounds doing that.

    And I know of a couple who are both very very plus sized -- both of them are in the process of losing. She looks fantastic -- she swims and does yoga and hits the Zumba place twice a week; I don't know what he is doing to lose but he looks great too.
  • The problem is that this is a CHANGE from his previous lifestyle. Like I said, he wasn't this weight and didn't have this lifestyle when we met. So it's not like I'm trying to change him into something he's never been. I want the man I married back. I didn't think a kid would change him. I don't know how you got that out of my post. And I don't badger him. He says he wants to change. Then just doesn't. Everything I suggest is because he brings up wanting to lose weight.

    I think he may be depressed but won't admit to it. That's why I've tried asking about that. I don't know guilty was the best word. But I'm the type of person who feels they could have always done more to help others when there is a negative outcome. And if he dies of a heart attack at 40, I'm not going to just say Whelp, he was a grown man and should have known this was coming. I'm going to say I should have done XYZ to make sure I helped him in any way possible.
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  • edited February 2014
    bel138 said:
    The problem is that this is a CHANGE from his previous lifestyle. Like I said, he wasn't this weight and didn't have this lifestyle when we met. So it's not like I'm trying to change him into something he's never been. I want the man I married back. I didn't think a kid would change him. I don't know how you got that out of my post. And I don't badger him. He says he wants to change. Then just doesn't.

    Anybody who is overweight will tell you that it's a struggle trying to lose weight.  I don't think he is depressed on a clinical level -- he's disgusted and down because he knows he's heavy and he would like to lose weight.

    Everything he's tried isn't for him: he's not a gym rat type, he doesn't like counting calories, he doesn't like anything he's tried. He's probably not an athletic type. None of these things work for him; he's got to find something else that's within his grasp and something that is attainable and successful for him. It is not likely he will pursue what did not work in the past.

    I myself have never run -- it fascinates me when I read about people who started running for fun and now they run marathons, 5Ks, etc. Running bores me. This is great for them, but not for me.

     Everything I suggest is because he brings up wanting to lose weight. I think he may be depressed but won't admit to it.

    He's talked about it.

    Suppose you say to him, "Honey what can we do about this to help you? We are a couple. Therefore anything that is troubling you or anything expressed that you desire needs to be my mission too. So what can we do to get the ball rolling? What do you think?" and then let him take the floor.

    He doesn't like the way he looks. I am sure he knows this himself.

    What's important right now: suppose he indulges in a new haircut and does a "little thing" to upgrade his looks? It would give him more self confidence -- and while he is losing he needs to find smaller clothes to wear -- the last thing anybody overweight should wear is baggy sloppy clothes.

    That's why I've tried asking about that. I don't know guilty was the best word. But I'm the type of person who feels they could have always done more to help others when there is a negative outcome. And if he dies of a heart attack at 40, I'm not going to just say Whelp, he was a grown man and should have known this was coming. I'm going to say I should have done XYZ to make sure I helped him in any way possible.
    He needs to help get the ball rolling on this -- and give thought to cooking light. That's something you can do to help.

    Don't indulge in whole milk -- get the skim milk/lowfat milk that has that flavor fortifier in it, if you don't like the flavor of skim or 1% "as is." That's a great way to cut fat out of your diet right there.
  • bel138 said:
    The problem is that this is a CHANGE from his previous lifestyle. Like I said, he wasn't this weight and didn't have this lifestyle when we met. So it's not like I'm trying to change him into something he's never been. I want the man I married back. I didn't think a kid would change him. I don't know how you got that out of my post. And I don't badger him. He says he wants to change. Then just doesn't. Everything I suggest is because he brings up wanting to lose weight. I think he may be depressed but won't admit to it. That's why I've tried asking about that. I don't know guilty was the best word. But I'm the type of person who feels they could have always done more to help others when there is a negative outcome. And if he dies of a heart attack at 40, I'm not going to just say Whelp, he was a grown man and should have known this was coming. I'm going to say I should have done XYZ to make sure I helped him in any way possible.
    No, no. Either I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me. 

    You posted about this 4 years ago which means of the seven years you've been together this has been an issue for more than half of them. Right after posting about sex and weight being an issue, you posted about TTC. I am assuming (possibly incorrectly) this is when you got pregnant. You said you were concerned that he doesn't seem to care about how it affects you and your son. I assumed son wasn't in the picture when this became a concern.

    Regardless, you have to know by now you can't change him or what he is willing to do. This has been going on for years. You have done all you can. It is up to him now to make a change. I know personally how hard it is to lose weight, but you have to make the choice for yourself. That's the bottom line. 

    I'm sorry there's no easy answer, but there isn't. Either he wants to or he doesn't. Either you can accept it or you can't. Either way you are not responsible for his health. You've done all you can.
  • BTW, he may be saying he wants to change, but his actions prove different...especially since this has been going on for so long and you have done everything in your power to help.
  • edited February 2014
    BTW, he may be saying he wants to change, but his actions prove different...especially since this has been going on for so long and you have done everything in your power to help.
    And of course you know the longer he tarries and the longer he puts off starting on a healthy lifestyle the worse it is going to be for him.

    The toughest day of a diet is always the first one.:)

    This won't end until he realizes he's gaining too much weight and that he has to do something about it.

    He should look into Weight Watchers. There are apps for your phone for WW and he can join on line if he detests the idea of going to a rah rah meeting.

    Everything is allowed in WW --- the whole wonderful key to it all is that it's all portion-based. 

    Men always get more to eat points wise and he'll probably get even more points than that, based on his height and weight. THat gets adjusted down once he starts losing.

    I have seen men lose 5 pounds a week or more on a sensible diet versus 2 perhaps, for a woman on a sensible diet -- as I said, men lose faster because they are more muscle than fat.
  • edited February 2014
    I will bet you he also is a salt freak.

    Even if he cut out the salt and eliminated foods with added salt and sodium it would do him a world of good. You really don't need salt in your diet; you need some sodium for various bodily functions but not what exceeds the suggested daily amount.

    I see nothing wrong with brown bagging his lunch -- take a nice turkey breast sandwich with lettuce and tomato on rye and add just a little bit of mayo (get the kind that comes in little packages) -- if he goes to lunch with cowoerkers, go but order something on the lighter side. Pack a banana and and another piece of fruit.

    Iff he is a beer drinker he can switch to some of the light beers that are out there; they're all very good.

    The little steps are what counts. 
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