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Leaving my DH

So, I am mostly a lurker here but with the situation I am in right now I felt like I had to post. My DH and I welcomed a beautiful baby boy in October, and ever since our relationship has deteriorated. Badly. My baby was born a week early, and my MIL had a plane ticket to arrive the day before my due date (lives on the East coast, we are in the West).  She was intrusive, baby grabby and expected me to follow around behind and clean up after her, anytime I did not agree with her on something about the baby she would go to my DH and the two of them would gang up against me, even though in most cases DH and I had already discussed the issues and were (I thought) on the same page before MIL got involved.  To make matters worse, my SIL (DH's older sister) had been nitpicking my home and my ability to care for her dear brother for months leading up to the birth of my son, and things only escalated with her from there.  Finally, I had enough and tried speaking to DH about the situation, started out calmly but after he repeatedly dismissed my feelings and minimized the issues I was having it blew up into a fight between us after his mother left.  She came back 2 weeks later for another 2 week visit in our home and the situation continued.

Ever since then he has been openly hostile towards me, and in fact called both his mother and sister to tell them that I hate them and that I don;t want them in our home (which I in no way said to him) I just asked that he support me and set some boundaries with his family (no going through drawers/cabinets, including me in decisions of when we will have houseguests staying with us, don't grab baby out of my arms, etc.).  MIL was super nice and supportive to my face, but would call DH when he was at work to tell him how much I had hurt her feelings and how she would never be comfortable in my home again.  All of this would just cause DH to come home from work and either ignore me completely, not even acknowledge that I was even there, or start a fight with me about how badly I hurt his mother.  His sister also was calling him and fueling the fire, so to speak.

We started going to marriage counseling and he spent each session yelling at me about everything he thought I did wrong, when our counselor would try to step in and calm him down he would yell at her. So, ultimately I left and went to stay at my sister's house with the baby.  DH is angry with me, but I felt like he left me no choice. This past week he told me that he no longer wanted to see our counselor and filed divorce papers, which he said he would serve me if I don't move home immediately. I responded that he can do what he feels he has to do, but that I cannot com back until we work through some of the issues in our relationship.

I saw our counselor individually after that session and she suggested I try to get him to see another counselor, but that if he cannot acknowledge the role his family has played in our troubles and come back to the relationship and support me as his wife then she doesn't see us being able to work through our issues. 

I guess I am just at a loss right now, I never saw a hint of this behavior before my son was born, I always had a good relationship with my in-laws and DH and I were happy...very happy. I don't know what advice I am looking for, but it feels good to vent a little bit.

Re: Leaving my DH

  • I have a friend who pretty much could have written the same story. Everything was great until she was about seven months pregnant. Her in laws started getting more and more intrusive, H wouldn't stick up for her or even really admit there was a problem. It's been a few years...it hasn't gotten any better. There will be times when he says he agrees with her, but refuses to set boundaries and pretty much thinks she should just put up with his mothers shenanigans. They tried counseling. He didn't seem to take it seriously and said he didn't get anything out of it. I'm pretty sure they will end up divorced.

    I'm sorry you are going through this. I would try to get him to see a different counsellor. Maybe he would be more open to a man telling him these things? What he needs to realize is he needs to deal with this one way or the other. No other woman is going to put up with this crap either, so he's going to have the same issues over and over again.

    If he's not going to try, not willing to be a team with you, and thinks he can demand you come home...stay where you are. Better to know where he stands now and move on with your life. 

    Good luck!
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    Thank you. I am trying to get him to schedule an appointment with another counselor, I agree that maybe a male will be able to get through to him better than a female...but honestly at this point I feel like it may be a lost cause.

    His sister insisted on being involved during our last exchange of the baby and when I told him I was not comfortable with her being there they both became hostile towards me.

    I never imagined that this man, who I loved with all of my heart and had a child with would ever turn on me like this. I would never treat him this way and my family has always treated him with kindness and respect, regardless of how they feel about him (they've seen him treat me badly and do not think I should've stayed this long).

    I am shocked that anyone can be as hateful as his family has been, especially when there is a child involved.
  • LeaZ said:
    So, I am mostly a lurker here but with the situation I am in right now I felt like I had to post. My DH and I welcomed a beautiful baby boy in October, and ever since our relationship has deteriorated. Badly. My baby was born a week early, and my MIL had a plane ticket to arrive the day before my due date (lives on the East coast, we are in the West).  She was intrusive, baby grabby and expected me to follow around behind and clean up after her, anytime I did not agree with her on something about the baby she would go to my DH and the two of them would gang up against me, even though in most cases DH and I had already discussed the issues and were (I thought) on the same page before MIL got involved.  To make matters worse, my SIL (DH's older sister) had been nitpicking my home and my ability to care for her dear brother for months leading up to the birth of my son, and things only escalated with her from there.  Finally, I had enough and tried speaking to DH about the situation, started out calmly but after he repeatedly dismissed my feelings and minimized the issues I was having it blew up into a fight between us after his mother left.  She came back 2 weeks later for another 2 week visit in our home and the situation continued.
    Ever since then he has been openly hostile towards me, and in fact called both his mother and sister to tell them that I hate them and that I don;t want them in our home (which I in no way said to him) I just asked that he support me and set some boundaries with his family (no going through drawers/cabinets, including me in decisions of when we will have houseguests staying with us, don't grab baby out of my arms, etc.).  MIL was super nice and supportive to my face, but would call DH when he was at work to tell him how much I had hurt her feelings and how she would never be comfortable in my home again.  All of this would just cause DH to come home from work and either ignore me completely, not even acknowledge that I was even there, or start a fight with me about how badly I hurt his mother.  His sister also was calling him and fueling the fire, so to speak.

    We started going to marriage counseling and he spent each session yelling at me about everything he thought I did wrong, when our counselor would try to step in and calm him down he would yell at her. So, ultimately I left and went to stay at my sister's house with the baby.  DH is angry with me, but I felt like he left me no choice. This past week he told me that he no longer wanted to see our counselor and filed divorce papers, which he said he would serve me if I don't move home immediately. I responded that he can do what he feels he has to do, but that I cannot com back until we work through some of the issues in our relationship.

    I saw our counselor individually after that session and she suggested I try to get him to see another counselor, but that if he cannot acknowledge the role his family has played in our troubles and come back to the relationship and support me as his wife then she doesn't see us being able to work through our issues. 
    I guess I am just at a loss right now, I never saw a hint of this behavior before my son was born, I always had a good relationship with my in-laws and DH and I were happy...very happy. I don't know what advice I am looking for, but it feels good to vent a little bit.
    So he yelled at the neutral third party who was supposed to be helping you both? And then he spent the money to have divorce papers drawn up and is giving you an ultimatum that if you don't come home right now, he's going to divorce you?

    I'm sorry, but this guy sounds like he has some serious issues of his own that don't even involve you. I know you love him and have seen the good sides of him too, but look at these events objectively. He sounds a bit scary, no?

    I'd personally be worried, and start putting my ducks in a row to leave. But if you feel you need to give it another chance, and he's willing to see another counselor, you can try giving it another chance. Maybe this person just really rubbed him the wrong way. However, you cannot consider returning to him without some kind of professional help. This is not going to go away on its own.

    I would also point you to the Starting Over board, since the ladies there have a lot of experience and advice. (Warning: They're a great resource, but they don't sugar-coat anything)
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    LeaZ said:
    So, I am mostly a lurker here but with the situation I am in right now I felt like I had to post. My DH and I welcomed a beautiful baby boy in October, and ever since our relationship has deteriorated. Badly.

    I do not want to rub salt into a wound but I am pretty certain that these problems existed well before this inkling you welcomed into the world was a glean in your eye and your soon to be former spouse's eye.

    Don't think of bringing kids into the fray when your marriage is having trouble.

    My baby was born a week early, and my MIL had a plane ticket to arrive the day before my due date (lives on the East coast, we are in the West).  She was intrusive, baby grabby and expected me to follow around behind and clean up after her, anytime I did not agree with her on something about the baby she would go to my DH and the two of them would gang up against me, even though in most cases DH and I had already discussed the issues and were (I thought) on the same page before MIL got involved. 

    He's a shit for taking his mother's side. Good thing he will be history soon.

    To make matters worse, my SIL (DH's older sister) had been nitpicking my home and my ability to care for her dear brother for months leading up to the birth of my son, and things only escalated with her from there.

    Here is where you should have spoken up and told her what to do with her nitpickery. God helps those who helps themselves; stand up for your rights.

     Finally, I had enough and tried speaking to DH about the situation, started out calmly but after he repeatedly dismissed my feelings and minimized the issues I was having it blew up into a fight between us after his mother left.  She came back 2 weeks later for another 2 week visit in our home and the situation continued.

    How come you thought it was okay for her to stay in your home??? Or did your H make this decision minus you? Then he really is a shit.

    ETA: I see that he went and okayed this stay in your home MINUS your input...I am play by playing this as I am reading it and responding as I read it. What a creep -- he knows the score and yet it is okay for that hag to stay in the home he shares with his wife. Pig.

    Ever since then he has been openly hostile towards me, and in fact called both his mother and sister to tell them that I hate them and that I don;t want them in our home (which I in no way said to him) I just asked that he support me and set some boundaries with his family (no going through drawers/cabinets, including me in decisions of when we will have houseguests staying with us, don't grab baby out of my arms, etc.). 

    This is telling a tale out of school and an outright lie. He needed to say the following:

    "I do not like the way you have treated my wife. What hurts her hurts me and therefore, you will have to stay in a hotel if you visit us in the future. Sorry."

    Peculiar chap, your soon to be former spouse. What is this, junior high? "My wife hates you....waaaahhh...." WOW, "hate" is a strong word to use! Maybe you are uncomfortable with them or you dislike them intensely but hate??? Sheesh....he's throwing wood on the fire! Take umbrage to his bullshit.

    MIL was super nice and supportive to my face, but would call DH when he was at work to tell him how much I had hurt her feelings and how she would never be comfortable in my home again. 

    Toughest of toys to her, huh? Life sure stinks, MIL! So don't STAY here, then, hag!

    All of this would just cause DH to come home from work and either ignore me completely, not even acknowledge that I was even there, or start a fight with me about how badly I hurt his mother.  His sister also was calling him and fueling the fire, so to speak.

    This is middle school behavior. Are these people for-real??? Calling somebody at work? Not the place for it!!!

    We started going to marriage counseling and he spent each session yelling at me about everything he thought I did wrong, when our counselor would try to step in and calm him down he would yell at her.

    I can't figure out what kind of counselor permitted the yelling and also permits bad behavior. She needed to eject him once the yelling began.

    So, ultimately I left and went to stay at my sister's house with the baby.  DH is angry with me, but I felt like he left me no choice. This past week he told me that he no longer wanted to see our counselor and filed divorce papers, which he said he would serve me if I don't move home immediately.

    And so you're a trained animal act too??? What a PIG! Do NOT let him manipulate you or threaten you.

    I responded that he can do what he feels he has to do, but that I cannot com back until we work through some of the issues in our relationship.


    How come you still want this little nobody after he not only treated you like crap but where it is clear he isn't grown up enough to be a team with you????

    Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let this coward go. He's no father figure and thank your lucky stars your kiddo won't be growing up in a home with him.

    I saw our counselor individually after that session and she suggested I try to get him to see another counselor, but that if he cannot acknowledge the role his family has played in our troubles and come back to the relationship and support me as his wife then she doesn't see us being able to work through our issues. 

    I guess I am just at a loss right now, I never saw a hint of this behavior before my son was born, I always had a good relationship with my in-laws and DH and I were happy...very happy. I don't know what advice I am looking for, but it feels good to vent a little bit.
    This "counselor" isn't worth her salt.

    You made the right decision -- see another counselor for yourself. You need to get this out of your system.

    Wishing you luck. This guy was not fit to be a husband or father.

    Retain an attorney on your own.  YOU file first --- get your financial ducks together first and protect your assets, yourself and your kiddo.

    I don't see any hope here for him. If he can't put you first, what have you even got? Nothing at all. So sorry to hear.

    He's got character issues, temper issues, immaturity issues, marriage dynamic issues (he cannot put you first and that will trickle down to your son, also) and he's a pig overall -- how dare he threaten you with divorce if you did not return home!

    By rights HE needs to move out and he needs to pay rent or the mortgage, --- you and the kiddo are to stay there ----while the divorce proceedings are taking place. What kind of a man will leave his child and former wife without decent shelter??
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    I suspect strongly he did NOT file.

    If you FILE, then the papers are SERVED!!! there is no one minus the other. Do not permit him to scare you or threaten you or manipulate you.

    I would, though, ask an attorney if you leaving first would be considered abandonment -- fully explain what's been transpiring between you and the H when you talk to the attorney.

    And have your H pay your legal fees as part of the divorce settlement.

    You file FIRST. Get rid of this bad rubbish. And do it tomorrow.
  • I suspect strongly he did NOT file.

    If you FILE, then the papers are SERVED!!! there is no one minus the other.

    You file FIRST. Get rid of this bad rubbish. And do it tomorrow.



    I agree. He did not file. He is trying to manipulate you. Do you have your own finances? If so you need to remove his access to it. If you are planning on going through with leaving than you need to start getting your finances in order.

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  • LeaZLeaZ member
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    We got pregnant very shortly after getting married, and with the majority of his family living out of state I had not spent a lot of time with them until the baby was born, which is why I feel kind of blind sided by what all has transpired in the past few months. It has gotten very ugly very quickly and I know that leaving was the right choice at the time for all of us. 

    I am not sure at this point that I want to even try or see another counselor so I am just going to have to take things one day at a time. Thanks for the support ladies, I know its a mess and its probably going to get a lot worse before it starts to get better.
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    I suspect strongly he did NOT file.

    If you FILE, then the papers are SERVED!!! there is no one minus the other.

    You file FIRST. Get rid of this bad rubbish. And do it tomorrow.
    I agree. He did not file. He is trying to manipulate you. Do you have your own finances? If so you need to remove his access to it. If you are planning on going through with leaving than you need to start getting your finances in order.
    Exactly:

    Safeguard them all --- change your PIN numbers, hide your credit cards and put your cash assets into another bank account he knows nothing of.

    A retainer for an attorney will run him about fifteen hundred bucks. Unless he wants to DIY and since there's a kiddo and possible alimony involved and if there is real estate held jointly, he can't DIY --- but at any rate, this guy never filed.  Not by the looks of what he said and what you reported.

    Maybe run a credit report on him and on you.

    One never knows.

    And don't let him have you running scared. wow -- he's a bully straight out of the seventh grade.

    We got pregnant very shortly after getting married, and with the majority of his family living out of state I had not spent a lot of time with them until the baby was born, which is why I feel kind of blind sided by what all has transpired in the past few months. It has gotten very ugly very quickly and I know that leaving was the right choice at the time for all of us.

    I feel for you. One never knows, as I said ---- you didn't know these ILs well and you got caught between a rock and a hard place.

    But he still should have stuck up for you. That's a given because the vow is "forsaking all others."

    I am not sure at this point that I want to even try or see another counselor so I am just going to have to take things one day at a time. Thanks for the support ladies, I know its a mess and its probably going to get a lot worse before it starts to get better.

    If you are spiritual, perhaps see a clergyperson.

    I suggest a counselor because all of this hit you like a ton of bricks and none of this is your fault.
  • I'm so sorry you're going through this. Stay in therapy and get a good attorney.
  • This is so sad to read - especially since there is a child involved.

    OP, I am sure that these problems with your H and your IL's existed well before you had your child...you may have not really noticed it or not thought much of it since your IL's live so far away, but these kinds of things don't just happen overnight. It's not really your fault though - this is totally a huge problem with your H. He clearly does not know what it means to be an equal partner and put you, his wife, first, and that is a shame.

    You could always try seeing a different counselor with him, but I'm not sure if that would help since he seems very set in his shitty ways. His threats of divorce if you don't come home are disturbing - I don't want to come right out and say 'abusive' but I would proceed with caution. His threats and his little temper tantrums at the first counselor point in that direction. I wish I had some other advice to offer you, but I think what the other ladies recommended is a good start. Make sure you protect yourself, your assets, and your child. Good luck.
  • This is so sad to read - especially since there is a child involved. OP, I am sure that these problems with your H and your IL's existed well before you had your child...you may have not really noticed it or not thought much of it since your IL's live so far away, but these kinds of things don't just happen overnight. It's not really your fault though - this is totally a huge problem with your H.

    That's what I said: the OP got caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place.

    He clearly does not know what it means to be an equal partner and put you, his wife, first, and that is a shame. You could always try seeing a different counselor with him, but I'm not sure if that would help since he seems very set in his shitty ways. His threats of divorce if you don't come home are disturbing - I don't want to come right out and say 'abusive' but I would proceed with caution.

    And if not abusive, downright immature and rotten: wow, who dares to threaten his wife??

    Based on that alone, he is not worth staying with. He doesn't see you as "equal footing".

    His threats and his little temper tantrums at the first counselor point in that direction. I wish I had some other advice to offer you, but I think what the other ladies recommended is a good start. Make sure you protect yourself, your assets, and your child. Good luck.
    I still can't see how that counselor didn't straightaway tell him to pipe down or she'd show him the door. How dare you yell in a professional office.
  • LeaZLeaZ member
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    She did try to calm him down and de-escalate the situation by redirecting back to the rings we were supposed to be talking about, he just has so much anger that she wasn't always successful. He saw her as just another woman that didn't understand the "real" issue (me)...I think he is looking for someone to talk some sense into me and point out how wrong I am about everything. 

    I am still staying at my sister's house, his mom is coming into town tomorrow to stay with him and he's trying to get me to come home for her visit.  We'll see how that goes, but I am not very hopeful that it will be an easy weekend.  I am planning on staying where I am for the time being, I don't think its a good idea for the 3 of us to be under the same roof for that long, especially if he and I cannot even get along when its just the 2 of us.
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    LeaZ said:
    She did try to calm him down and de-escalate the situation by redirecting back to the rings we were supposed to be talking about, he just has so much anger that she wasn't always successful. He saw her as just another woman that didn't understand the "real" issue (me)...I think he is looking for someone to talk some sense into me and point out how wrong I am about everything.

    He's got until the end of time. Maybe he might have some luck in his endeavor.

    I am still staying at my sister's house, his mom is coming into town tomorrow to stay with him and he's trying to get me to come home for her visit.  We'll see how that goes, but I am not very hopeful that it will be an easy weekend. 

    Why in the world would you want to GO BACK there at all????

    Who cares if his mother is coming! She doesn't care about you, from what you have reported.

    Steer clear of this mess. You tell him this is finished, over and done and that's the end. Leave him holding the bag to tell THAT old bag that you've decided to call it quits.

    I am planning on staying where I am for the time being, I don't think its a good idea for the 3 of us to be under the same roof for that long, especially if he and I cannot even get along when its just the 2 of us.
    File and don't look back. Like I said, get your financial ducks in a row and when you do, file. He can enjoy the ruddy visit that his mother is making. Goodie for him.
  • LeaZ said:

    She did try to calm him down and de-escalate the situation by redirecting back to the rings we were supposed to be talking about, he just has so much anger that she wasn't always successful. He saw her as just another woman that didn't understand the "real" issue (me)...I think he is looking for someone to talk some sense into me and point out how wrong I am about everything. 


    I am still staying at my sister's house, his mom is coming into town tomorrow to stay with him and he's trying to get me to come home for her visit.  We'll see how that goes, but I am not very hopeful that it will be an easy weekend.  I am planning on staying where I am for the time being, I don't think its a good idea for the 3 of us to be under the same roof for that long, especially if he and I cannot even get along when its just the 2 of us.
    Well, I stand corrected - this, to me, has all the makings of someone who is controlling and abusive. An abuser never wants to see themselves as the problem - they will do everything in their power to pin the blame in their victim. Sure, you may have your issues, but the real issue here is your H.

    Can I ask - is he of a different cultural background? Because in some cultures, the wife takes a backseat to everyone else and is subservient to the H and family. If so, I'd advise you to really think long and hard whether or not this is what you want for your life and that of your child's. I'd seriously get out now while you can.
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    She did try to calm him down and de-escalate the situation by redirecting back to the rings we were supposed to be talking about, he just has so much anger that she wasn't always successful. He saw her as just another woman that didn't understand the "real" issue (me)...I think he is looking for someone to talk some sense into me and point out how wrong I am about everything. 

    I am still staying at my sister's house, his mom is coming into town tomorrow to stay with him and he's trying to get me to come home for her visit.  We'll see how that goes, but I am not very hopeful that it will be an easy weekend.  I am planning on staying where I am for the time being, I don't think its a good idea for the 3 of us to be under the same roof for that long, especially if he and I cannot even get along when its just the 2 of us.
    Well, I stand corrected - this, to me, has all the makings of someone who is controlling and abusive. An abuser never wants to see themselves as the problem - they will do everything in their power to pin the blame in their victim. Sure, you may have your issues, but the real issue here is your H. Can I ask - is he of a different cultural background? Because in some cultures, the wife takes a backseat to everyone else and is subservient to the H and family. If so, I'd advise you to really think long and hard whether or not this is what you want for your life and that of your child's. I'd seriously get out now while you can.
    And if this is cultural -- and I was considering it for a second, too, but then again this guy is just a shithead --- this is a whole other story.

    You've got a unique problem in the mix. Indeed it is "normal" for the wife to be the fifth wheel and for the mother to be the head of the family no matter what. If your H is from another culture, you'll need a counselor who speicalizes in cultural issues...IF you want to make a go of it -- but if you ask me, this is a lost cause.

    He's childish and threatens you, to keep you at bay?

    Just for that, he needs to jump in a lake.

    Middle school nonsense, like I said -- what kind of a grown bunch of people act like this???

    Ever since then he has been openly hostile towards me, and in fact called both his mother and sister to tell them that I hate them and that I don;t want them in our home (which I in no way said to him) I just asked that he support me and set some boundaries with his family (no going through drawers/cabinets, including me in decisions of when we will have houseguests staying with us, don't grab baby out of my arms, etc.).  MIL was super nice and supportive to my face, but would call DH when he was at work to tell him how much I had hurt her feelings and how she would never be comfortable in my home again.  All of this would just cause DH to come home from work and either ignore me completely, not even acknowledge that I was even there, or start a fight with me about how badly I hurt his mother.  His sister also was calling him and fueling the fire, so to speak.

    I don't think there is anything here for you and the kiddo. Stay safe with your child; pack it in altogether and file.
  • LeaZLeaZ member
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    Well, his family is East Coast (Boston) Italian, I grew up out here in Cali where we live now, so I guess it could be cultural...but I think it has more to do with his upbringing.  His parents had a very volatile marriage and they only got divorced when he was in his 20's, so he grew up with a lot of fighting. Also, his dad took off a lot so I think that his mom and sister relied on him a lot as an emotional crutch and he doesn't know how to separate his emotions from theirs.  

    I get the feeling that his mom and sister don't like "outsiders"...MIL constantly talks badly about her in-laws and so does SIL...they have both also made it clear that they do not want my family around.  MIL even told my husband that she is jealous that my mom lives close by and doesn't like her spending so much time with the baby since MIL can't because she lives so far away. She treats it like a competition for #1 grandmother, which is just crazy to me.  I suspect that if DH dos file then it will be because MIL pushes him to do it.

    The way things are right now, we aren't going back. I keep thinking about my life 20 years from now, and I cannot imagine living like this for that long.
  • Well, his family is East Coast (Boston) Italian, I grew up out here in Cali where we live now, so I guess it could be cultural...but I think it has more to do with his upbringing.  His parents had a very volatile marriage and they only got divorced when he was in his 20's, so he grew up with a lot of fighting. Also, his dad took off a lot so I think that his mom and sister relied on him a lot as an emotional crutch and he doesn't know how to separate his emotions from theirs.  

    I get the feeling that his mom and sister don't like "outsiders"...MIL constantly talks badly about her in-laws and so does SIL...they have both also made it clear that they do not want my family around.  MIL even told my husband that she is jealous that my mom lives close by and doesn't like her spending so much time with the baby since MIL can't because she lives so far away. She treats it like a competition for #1 grandmother, which is just crazy to me.  I suspect that if DH dos file then it will be because MIL pushes him to do it.

    The way things are right now, we aren't going back. I keep thinking about my life 20 years from now, and I cannot imagine living like this for that long.

    I think this is wise! (Hugs)
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  • You're doing the right thing. It sounds like the family dynamics here are very unhealthy. You didn't go into this having any idea what you were up against.
  • GilliC said:
    Well, his family is East Coast (Boston) Italian, I grew up out here in Cali where we live now, so I guess it could be cultural...but I think it has more to do with his upbringing.  His parents had a very volatile marriage and they only got divorced when he was in his 20's, so he grew up with a lot of fighting. Also, his dad took off a lot so I think that his mom and sister relied on him a lot as an emotional crutch and he doesn't know how to separate his emotions from theirs.  

    I get the feeling that his mom and sister don't like "outsiders"...MIL constantly talks badly about her in-laws and so does SIL...they have both also made it clear that they do not want my family around.  MIL even told my husband that she is jealous that my mom lives close by and doesn't like her spending so much time with the baby since MIL can't because she lives so far away. She treats it like a competition for #1 grandmother, which is just crazy to me.  I suspect that if DH dos file then it will be because MIL pushes him to do it.

    The way things are right now, we aren't going back. I keep thinking about my life 20 years from now, and I cannot imagine living like this for that long.

    I think this is wise! (Hugs)
    I would say this was a cultural issue if his parents were of certain ancestry --usually it is a culural group that's not an American mixed bag: you see it a lot in Hispanics and those of midddle Eastern descent.Also parts of Asia.

    His mother sounds pushy and impolite; who grabs a kiddo out of somebody's arms? -- and if anything, she's immature as her daughter and her son is.
  • Leftie22Leftie22 member
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    edited March 2014
    I think you got good advice here, and I just wanted to add that I'm in a similar boat, but with a man who DOES want to stand up to his family, and it's still very hard on our marriage. We moved across the country to escape DH's family and they still manage to cause tons of stress and relationship damage. So I think you're doing the right thing by leaving. Families like his are almost impossible to deal with even when the DH is on board with setting boundaries. In cases where the DH thinks the wife is the problem, I think it's hopeless. I'm really sorry, I know how much this situation must hurt, for you and the kid. (Edited spelling)
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