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Splitting up chores

Major vent here, but I am trying to get my dear hubby to help out around the house more than he does now. I am feeling like I'm the only one who can see the trash needs taken out, the laundry needs don, the dog needs cleaned up after etc. I also don't feel like every time I leave the house I should have to ask him to do this or that, but I am getting extremely frustrated with being the one who is constantly doing everything  or asking to get things done. I am also frustrated when he does his tasks around the house, he will wait until the last possible minute to get things done, is it wrong that I feel the dishes should be cleaned up right after dinner is done and not 3-4 hours later?!?!?! Or that he spends all day away from the house and comes home and has to do nothing, but if I do the same have a pile of chores to do?!?!?! I'm about ready to blow and take it out on him big time, but I know that will just make everything worse.

How are the chores in your house hold divided?

Re: Splitting up chores

  • The main two things H and I divide are laundry and dishes. I can't stand the way he does laundry so I always do that. H does dishes. As far as the rest the house goes, I go by the clean 15-20 minutes a day policy. That way I don't go crazy thinking I've got to clean everything. In that time I can clean the bathroom, vacuum the house, mop, or deep clean the oven/stove top.

    I've also heard making a chore list really helps some couples. Maybe have a list on the fridge and ask if he could take care of a few things each day?
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    I would start by making a list of everything that needs to be done -daily and weekly.  Show this to him.  Seeing it all written down might have a bit of an impact. 

     

    Then - ask him which ones he would like to do.  And phrase it in a "we're a team, this is OUR home, we both need to help keep it up..... so, what do you want to do to help out?".

    One word of caution, though - be careful about micromanaging (and if you plan to eventually have kids (although, I STRONGLY suggest getting this worked out first....), this applies to childcare too).  If he waits a couple hours to do the dishes BUT gets them done, so what?  If you want him to help but then micromanage how he does it - it's not going to help the situation.

    Different =/= wrong.  Just different.

  • Betting his parents did it all and he and his siblings were spared the expense, so to speak.

    Wrong --- kids need responsibility. They also need to know how to DO things: Iron, mow the lawn, help out with automotives,  help out with dinner/help cook and prepare the meal -- yes, both sexes need to know how to cook,  learn to sew ( you will always need to sew a button or hem something you're wearing, like a skirt or pair of pants) and you need to learn how to do mundane things --- mow the lawn, set the table, dust, wash the floor, pick up after yourself so you don't have a room that's in squalor and so forth.

    We had chores and "to do" things as kids and teens. Now you're a mean parent if you "make" you kids do these things.

    He has to pitch in. Tell him no holds barred you are tired of pulling the entire load. He can't sit by and do nothing.
  • I know it's not a fun truth, but some people just aren't very good at noticing messes, or knowing when/how to take care of things. 

    My husband gets bothered when things get cluttered, but he hasn't made the connection yet that when he gets home from work, and brings all of his mail, jacket, clipboard, keys, etc., and puts it on the kitchen table....it looks cluttered. lol.  He doesn't like the mess, but I still have to remind him to put his stuff where it goes.

    It helps a lot that I have a weekly chore list.  Chores are color coded for mine, his, and ours, and he can select something off the list when he has time, instead of being bombarded with it all at once.  Even with the list, he doesn't always notice things that need to be taken care of, so I do occasionally point things out, or suggest something specific off the list when he has free time. 

    Having clear expectations of things that need to be done every day vs. every week, or month, will help.  I worked out a schedule, and had him make suggestions to it, so we were in agreement.  For us, if he wants to wait until the last minute to take care of certain stuff, I"m fine with it, as long as it gets done.  There are some exceptions, like if we have company coming, or if the dishes that he was supposed to take care of are preventing me from cooking, etc. 

    Personally, I like it when we do our chores at the same time.  It means we get to relax at the same time, too!  So cleaning often happens in our home when I start cleaning something, and then encourage him to pick something to take care of as well.  Leaning when/how to suggest something took a few trial and errors, but I think I got it....he never complains.

    Having to ask/tell/remind your husband to clean can get annoying, but it is much easier than taking care of everything yourself!
  • This has taken nearly 4 years of living together for H and I to get to a semi-OK place with this (by semi-ok I mean that it has been a month since I had a melt-down about needing help around the house).

    We have a cleaning schedule, and we each have our own tasks that we are "in charge of". H does the dishes everynight while I wipe down the counters and sweep the kitchen floor (doing it together makes it easier for both of us). H takes out the main trash and Recycling, however I go around and empty all the little trash cans (bathrooms, bedroom, office). H cleans the cat litter and scoops most of the dog-poop, I wash the floors when ever they need it....I know it's hard, but be patient and you'll figure something out. 

    It seems silly, but sit down and talk about it, it helps to have a conversation about what eachother's expectations are. It took H telling me that he gets frustrated that we don't do more fun things on the weekend and me explaining that if more chores got done during the week then we could do more on the weekend for him to realize what the value of his pitching in was.  Example, I have a pile of H's jeans that need to be patched, or fixed in some way, he kept bugging me about it, so I explained, if he could help with some of the chores during the week, I'd have more time on the weekend to mend his clothes. 

    We've gotten more regimented with our evening schedule...and that really has made a huge difference. H works odd hours and gets home from work around noon he spends about an hour doing something (today he is doing 1 load of laundry and vacumming the living room, kitchen, and dining room), then he does what he wants to until I get home (hopefully somehow that involves a walk with the dog). when I get home at 5 we go to the gym for an hour, then I make dinner, he puts and clean dishes away and sets the table and washes anything that I finish with as i'm cooking, afterdinner he does dishes and I clean the counters and sweep the floor. then we can relax until bedtime. 

    It still takes gentle reminders on my way out the door, and checkins at other times, always try to be really sweet about it so it doesn't come-off as too naggy..."hey sweetie, when was the last time the cat litter got cleaned?" ..."thanks...do you think next time you clean it you could just vacuum the floor around the box real quick?"
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    leamide said:
    Major vent here, but I am trying to get my dear hubby to help out around the house more than he does now. I am feeling like I'm the only one who can see the trash needs taken out, the laundry needs don, the dog needs cleaned up after etc. I also don't feel like every time I leave the house I should have to ask him to do this or that, but I am getting extremely frustrated with being the one who is constantly doing everything  or asking to get things done. I am also frustrated when he does his tasks around the house, he will wait until the last possible minute to get things done, is it wrong that I feel the dishes should be cleaned up right after dinner is done and not 3-4 hours later?!?!?! Or that he spends all day away from the house and comes home and has to do nothing, but if I do the same have a pile of chores to do?!?!?! I'm about ready to blow and take it out on him big time, but I know that will just make everything worse.

    How are the chores in your house hold divided?
    No, it's not wrong. But expecting your H to feel the same way is wrong.

    I'm going to assume you discussed all this before you got married, since sharing your living space with another person is a huge deal and can cause tremendous amounts of stress and conflict. What did you agree to then? Did he agree to your terms of having the dishes cleaned within 1 hour of use? Or did you agree to a more liberal timeframe? And who was to have that cleaning responsibility (I assume him, since you're upset about it)?

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  • To answer the "how are things divided" question... Whoever doesn't cook cleans up, but with a 24-hour window, in case dinner is served late in the evening. Laundry is done by whoever wore the clothes. Beyond that, things are divided according to who is bothered most by them. Mopping and vacuuming are his responsibilities because they bother him more, and dusting is mine, because I care and he doesn't. Neither of us care about window and mirrors, so I only do them when I feel ashamed by them. The bathroom is a mixed bag, but since I'm the only one who takes baths, the bathtub pretty much lands on me.
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  • stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
  • Here's the problem I see, you're too picky. You want him to wash the dishes, well he obviously does, just not when you want him to. If you're going to be picky, then you might as well do the chores yourself. 

    My husband does the garbage and the kitty litter, as well as other messes and other things I ask him to. I have to remind him about the garbage, it's just life. He forgets. We've fought about it before and he made the point that if I was so mad for him not doing it, why didn't I just ask? He viewed it as me wanting to be mad at him so I didn't remind him. No ones perfect. 

    I remind him all the time now, it gets done, and there is no more fights. 

    He works full time and I work part time. I do the dishes (dislike) and cooking (like). Laundry is done mostly by me except he helps folds, which kind of evens it out since it's not that hard to put clothes in the washer and then in the dryer... folding is the horrible part. 

    I tend to do the majority of household cleaning (sweeping, mopping, vacuuming) but that's because messes bother me for than they do him and I have more time on my hands. However, if I do ask him, he will normally do it, like I ask him to vacuum the floor or to clean the toilet. Little things like that. 

    Here's the deal though. You two need to sit down, decide who does what chores, if he admits he might forget, don't be afraid to remind him, and don't be picky! You can't demand him to wash the dishes after you eat just because that's when you would... heck I don't even wash the dishes until the sink is full. or better yet get a dishwasher! 

    You can also find a way for him to remember, make a chore chart with a checklist so he can check off what he has to do daily, weekly, monthly, etc... laminate it so he can reuse it. It's something I've considered, but ended up not needing since just reminding/asking has been working for us.
  • In the 13 years I've been living with my H, the biggest saver of my sanity regarding this stuff was to just stop expecting him to do things the way I do them or at the times I do them.  He honestly doesn't think dishes need to be done until you are completely out of them.  It would not occur to him to pick up the toys on the floor until he hurt his foot on one at 3am.  Wiping down kitchen counters when there's not a sticky, visible mess is not on his radar.  It's just not.

    In our house, I do inside stuff and he does outside stuff.  When one of us needs help, we just ask the other one.  Ahead of time and with specifics.  I'll say, "Tomorrow afternoon I want to get this place cleaned up.  Can you please handle the trash and the floors while I do x,y and z."  Then I repeat when it's time to start the next day.

    Seriously we spent years fighting about this stuff until I finally realized my micromanaging just made him want to help even less.  Just go with the flow. If you ask him to do the dishes and he dose it at midnight instead of right after dinner, what's the big deal?  You're still not waking up to dried on food in the sink.
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  • stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    This is so passive agressive...have a conversation with your H and figure out what makes you both comfortable...you may have to make some compromises (i.e. the dishes may sit for a few hours). It may be that he has a different definition of clean, and you need to find common ground.
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    Gdaisy09 said:
    stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    This is so passive agressive...have a conversation with your H and figure out what makes you both comfortable...you may have to make some compromises (i.e. the dishes may sit for a few hours). It may be that he has a different definition of clean, and you need to find common ground.
    Sure, it's passive aggressive, but sometimes it's the only thing that works.  I would imagine most people who come and ask this kind of question HAVE tried, to some degree, talking to their spouse about the issue.  But then it keeps happening.

    This isn't the ONLY solution, obviously.  But as a last resort?  SOmetimes it's necessary.
  • Every couple is going to handle household responsibilities differently depending on their situation. We don't really split house chores- I do inside, he does outside ( i do help with some outside things as well) and like the PP, if one of us needs help, we ask. 

    My DH works long odd hours, so alot of the times I'm doing everything on my own and I work FT time too, but a regular 9-5.   If he is home, he will wash the dishes after I cook.  But i choose to dry and put them away right away because i cant stand to look at it all night.  I can be somewhat of a neat freak so  I just do what makes me happy.  If I need him to take out the garbage, I just ask.  If i want the bed made and he goes to work after me, I ask.

    To me, its not worth the battle. I know he isn't a clean freak like me.  Don't get me wrong there are times when i yell, put your clothes in the &*^&* hamper, but its not worth a huge fight.    
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  • I am a complete neat freak. Everything has it's place and it drives me crazy when it isn't in it. But, I realized a long time ago that not everyone feels the way I do. I may be wrong, but it sounds like from your post that you have not discussed this with your husband. I think you have to communicate with him and come up with some things he can be in charge of. I realize that in order for my home to be the way I want it, that I have to do a large part of the work. He has stuff he is responsible for, though, and sometimes he does not do it the way I would or In the time I would, but it would be unfair for me to expect that of him. If I want things done right this very second, I just do it myself and don't get angry. It's not worth it because I have an awesome husband.
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  • We fought about it for ages, and finally made a weekly list that goes on the fridge. Things can happen whenever and however, but they need to get done. It helped my DH to see how much I'm doing, on top of cooking and managing all our finances. It has definitely improved things, and the list reminds him when apparently a disgusting toilet does not.
  • Gdaisy09 said:
    stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    This is so passive agressive...have a conversation with your H and figure out what makes you both comfortable...you may have to make some compromises (i.e. the dishes may sit for a few hours). It may be that he has a different definition of clean, and you need to find common ground.
    It's not if you tell him that's what you're doing.  I'm having trouble bending over this pregnant and I flat out told my H his laundry wasn't getting done if he couldn't manage to get it in the hamper because I'm not picking up any more off the floor.  So I stopped doing the laundry he left on the floor.  In a week he was putting it all in the hamper.
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  • Kimbus22 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    This is so passive agressive...have a conversation with your H and figure out what makes you both comfortable...you may have to make some compromises (i.e. the dishes may sit for a few hours). It may be that he has a different definition of clean, and you need to find common ground.
    It's not if you tell him that's what you're doing.  I'm having trouble bending over this pregnant and I flat out told my H his laundry wasn't getting done if he couldn't manage to get it in the hamper because I'm not picking up any more off the floor.  So I stopped doing the laundry he left on the floor.  In a week he was putting it all in the hamper.
    Totally agree...I interpreted the posters suggestion to me "give him a taste of his own medicine" and see if he notices/cares when chores don't get done. and I would hope my H will be more willing to help-out with things if/when pregnancy makes it harder for me to do. 

    It's passive agressive if no conversation happens. This would be like me picking all my college roommates dirty clothes up off the floor and putting them on her bed, without ever having a conversation with her that went something like "we have to share this space, could we try to keep it so i'm not stepping on your things on my way in and out of the room."
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  • Gdaisy09 said:
    Kimbus22 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    This is so passive agressive...have a conversation with your H and figure out what makes you both comfortable...you may have to make some compromises (i.e. the dishes may sit for a few hours). It may be that he has a different definition of clean, and you need to find common ground.
    It's not if you tell him that's what you're doing.  I'm having trouble bending over this pregnant and I flat out told my H his laundry wasn't getting done if he couldn't manage to get it in the hamper because I'm not picking up any more off the floor.  So I stopped doing the laundry he left on the floor.  In a week he was putting it all in the hamper.
    Totally agree...I interpreted the posters suggestion to me "give him a taste of his own medicine" and see if he notices/cares when chores don't get done. and I would hope my H will be more willing to help-out with things if/when pregnancy makes it harder for me to do. 

    It's passive agressive if no conversation happens. This would be like me picking all my college roommates dirty clothes up off the floor and putting them on her bed, without ever having a conversation with her that went something like "we have to share this space, could we try to keep it so i'm not stepping on your things on my way in and out of the room."
    i wonder what it says about your marriage that you assumed no conversation would happen or that he needs "a taste of his own medicine."
  • Gdaisy09 said:
    Kimbus22 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    This is so passive agressive...have a conversation with your H and figure out what makes you both comfortable...you may have to make some compromises (i.e. the dishes may sit for a few hours). It may be that he has a different definition of clean, and you need to find common ground.
    It's not if you tell him that's what you're doing.  I'm having trouble bending over this pregnant and I flat out told my H his laundry wasn't getting done if he couldn't manage to get it in the hamper because I'm not picking up any more off the floor.  So I stopped doing the laundry he left on the floor.  In a week he was putting it all in the hamper.
    Totally agree...I interpreted the posters suggestion to me "give him a taste of his own medicine" and see if he notices/cares when chores don't get done. and I would hope my H will be more willing to help-out with things if/when pregnancy makes it harder for me to do. 

    It's passive agressive if no conversation happens. This would be like me picking all my college roommates dirty clothes up off the floor and putting them on her bed, without ever having a conversation with her that went something like "we have to share this space, could we try to keep it so i'm not stepping on your things on my way in and out of the room."
    i wonder what it says about your marriage that you assumed no conversation would happen or that he needs "a taste of his own medicine."

    -Stuck in the box-

    billieholiday You know that she was talking about your suggestion and that you just slammed yourself right? Made me laugh.
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  • Gdaisy09 said:
    Kimbus22 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    This is so passive agressive...have a conversation with your H and figure out what makes you both comfortable...you may have to make some compromises (i.e. the dishes may sit for a few hours). It may be that he has a different definition of clean, and you need to find common ground.
    It's not if you tell him that's what you're doing.  I'm having trouble bending over this pregnant and I flat out told my H his laundry wasn't getting done if he couldn't manage to get it in the hamper because I'm not picking up any more off the floor.  So I stopped doing the laundry he left on the floor.  In a week he was putting it all in the hamper.
    Totally agree...I interpreted the posters suggestion to me "give him a taste of his own medicine" and see if he notices/cares when chores don't get done. and I would hope my H will be more willing to help-out with things if/when pregnancy makes it harder for me to do. 

    It's passive agressive if no conversation happens. This would be like me picking all my college roommates dirty clothes up off the floor and putting them on her bed, without ever having a conversation with her that went something like "we have to share this space, could we try to keep it so i'm not stepping on your things on my way in and out of the room."
    i wonder what it says about your marriage that you assumed no conversation would happen or that he needs "a taste of his own medicine."

    -Stuck in the box-

    billieholiday You know that she was talking about your suggestion and that you just slammed yourself right? Made me laugh.
    i'm completely aware and it's actually not very funny.  i just feel like she was projecting some of her own frustration onto my post.  all i said was that she shouldn't be doing ALL of the housework.  the suggestion that the h shouldn't be told or that he needs a dose of his own medicine was all on the PP.  i kind of feel bad that she has that much pent up frustration with her marriage.
  • i mean, kimbus got it.  
  • @billieholiday No, even though she did a similar thing to what your suggestion was she did it in a much better way. Yours was: Stop doing everything and yell at him for not doing anything. Her's was: Communicate and tell him your not doing everything and what you expect him to do. Which in a way was what most of the posters, other then yourself, were saying as well as suggesting ideas on how to do that.
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  • @billieholiday No, even though she did a similar thing to what your suggestion was she did it in a much better way. Yours was: Stop doing everything and yell at him for not doing anything. Her's was: Communicate and tell him your not doing everything and what you expect him to do. Which in a way was what most of the posters, other then yourself, were saying as well as suggesting ideas on how to do that.
    mine was: you should stop doing everything for him and tell him that you're not his mother. 

    hers was: THAT IS SO PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE!!!  WHY ARE YOU SAYING HE NEEDS A DOSE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE!!?  

    lol...  but, it's okay if you don't get it

  • @billieholiday No, even though she did a similar thing to what your suggestion was she did it in a much better way. Yours was: Stop doing everything and yell at him for not doing anything. Her's was: Communicate and tell him your not doing everything and what you expect him to do. Which in a way was what most of the posters, other then yourself, were saying as well as suggesting ideas on how to do that.
    mine was: you should stop doing everything for him and tell him that you're not his mother. 

    hers was: THAT IS SO PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE!!!  WHY ARE YOU SAYING HE NEEDS A DOSE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE!!?  

    lol...  but, it's okay if you don't get it
    Quite honestly I think that you're the one that's, "projecting some of her own frustration onto [her] post."
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  • i mean, kimbus got it.  
    Not really.  I was trying to make what I thought your suggestion was less passive aggressive and more effective.  I didn't realize you included a conversation in your advice either. 
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  • @billieholiday No, even though she did a similar thing to what your suggestion was she did it in a much better way. Yours was: Stop doing everything and yell at him for not doing anything. Her's was: Communicate and tell him your not doing everything and what you expect him to do. Which in a way was what most of the posters, other then yourself, were saying as well as suggesting ideas on how to do that.
    mine was: you should stop doing everything for him and tell him that you're not his mother. 

    hers was: THAT IS SO PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE!!!  WHY ARE YOU SAYING HE NEEDS A DOSE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE!!?  

    lol...  but, it's okay if you don't get it

    @billieholiday I thought the same thing at first. Your post was very easy to misinterpret:
    stop doing everything.  when there are no clean dishes, shit stains in the toilet, and his laundry is piled up in the corner, he will realize what you have been doing.  also, inform him that he did not marry his mommy
    The problem is in "he will realize what you have been doing."

    It seems that some people, myself included, read that as "he will realize that you have suddenly stopped doing everything for him." Obviously that would be completely passive-aggressive and implies that you wouldn't tell him up front that you were going to stop picking up the slack.

    Based on your follow-up, I am guessing you meant it to read as "he will realize just how much work you have been doing." Which opens the door to having had a previous dialog about it and not being passive-aggressive.

    I don't really think the differences in interpretation were driven so much by people's relationship experiences. It was a somewhat ambiguous statement, and "informing him that he didn't marry his mommy" sets the stage for interpreting it as the more juvenile option. I'm pretty sure he knows he didn't marry his mother. (He may not however, realize that it's not typical to expect the same level of service from his wife that he received his mother.)
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  • In my house I'm actually the one more likely to just throw stuff down and leave it.  I have a bad habit of leaving shoes and coats all over the place.  Since I knew DH was sick of tripping over them we invested in 3 large shoe racks and stuck them in the front entry closet.  We also acquired a coat rack, cleaned out and trashed all the old stuff in the foyer closet and bought giant bins to hold the scarfs and gloves.  It helped immensely.  It was the same with the mail and keys.  I actually love my mail rack since it can hold several sets of keys.  It also helps keep the crap out of the rest of the home. 

    I'll admit, when we first cohabitated it was a difficult adjustment for both of us since we were both stubbornly set in our ways.  It definitely took some adjusting.  Hubby usually does this dishes since I cook, but he and only once, complained that he doesn't believe one meal could create so many dishes.  My head almost exploded.  I made him call his sister so she could have a laugh over it.  In addition, he washes and dries most of the laundry since I am afraid of the basement.  I know it's irrational, but it's old, creepy and has spiders.  To make up for him running up and down two flights of stairs I sort it out for him and then fold and put it away.  I organize my clothes in a certain manner and wouldn't  be able to find what he wanted if he just put them away.  In addition he does the bills, lawn, garbage, most of the vacuming and snow removal.  I mop the floors, clean the bathroom and shred junk mail  We both clean the kitchen. 

    BTW, I once told him I was not his "mommy" and they he had to put his own clothes away.  He actually agreed with me.  I was stunned.  I don't recommend this tactic for every man.  They reason I put his clothes away now is because I am between jobs.  I figure if he can go out and make the big bucks at least I can put away his socks and undies.

     

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