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SMIL Issues

So, hi guys, first time post on the Nest, though I was pretty active on The Knot back when I was planning my wedding; this is a different account because I could not for the life of me figure out how to reset my password that I forgot because I had issues with my email address. ANYWAY, I just need some helpful advice, or at least someone to tell it to me straight to stop being such a whiny baby. Here's a little backstory:

If anyone was on the Knot a couple years back, we may know each other, as I was pretty active in the months leading up to my wedding. Mostly because I needed the moral support because my MIL was diagnosed with stage four cancer just months before the big day, and it was all a complicated mess. Anyway, since then, within eight months of meeting a woman, my FIL remarried. DH was rather upset that his father moved on so quickly, but many talks were had, and it was definitely resolved; we all understood that FIL was an adult, could make his own decisions, and needed to do what was right for him.

My SMIL (I cannot refer to her as my MIL, I have one MIL and she is up in the bright and shiny place in the sky now) is a lovely person, but is definitely somebody that takes some getting used to, and we're still not entirely used to her. She could not be more different than FIL's late wife, which is a good thing I suppose, considering him marrying a clone of his wife would be really too hard to bear. But the thing is, she's really trying to make everyone in the family comfortable with her presence, and it's gotten to the point where she's overcompensating and becoming overbearing. I definitely feel for her; this is not an easy situation to fit yourself into, but I just don't know how to behave around her anymore.

She is very close with her nieces and nephews (she never was married or had children of her own, so she is close to her siblings and their families), and she will consistently mention them, particularly her nieces, when speaking to me about how I should be keeping my house, and how I should be planning my life. Usually I just sort of smile and nod when she talks like this, but then about a week ago, I came home to find her and my FIL in my house, cleaning. I should probably mention that DH and I recently finished college, and are living in the house (with my SIL as a roommate, which is a whole other story) that FIL lived in before moving in with his new wife, free of charge, while we pay off loans. It's an incredibly generous offer, and I know it's not really our house, but FIL has made it clear it might as well be. 

I was raised by a mother who was very proud of her home, and it was a trait she passed along to me. So, I was pretty horrified when I got off a busy, long day of work to find SMIL and FIL cleaning. As much as I appreciated the gesture, it was embarrassing; we hadn't had a lot of time to clean that week because of busy schedules, but I had planned a cleaning day for my next day off. I also go into my bedroom, and find that they had gone into it to put things in there that they'd found that didn't belong in common areas, like my iPod and some tax papers I'd left lying around

This, combined with consistent "my niece Blahblah is so good at doing laundry, you should ask her for tips" type of talks, has started to really get on my nerves. I fully admit that I'm having a hard time seeing her in my MIL's place; MIL and I were incredibly close when she was still with us, and I know part of my annoyance is that I don't want to replace her. But basically, I just want to know if I'm overreacting, I guess? What should I do? Before we were married, I never really thought I'd have to deal with the overbearing MIL issue, and basically I just never prepared myself.

Re: SMIL Issues

  • Move out.  

    Honestly, you are living in their home rent free.  You are not living in it up to their standards (and whether she is a new addition, she is now 100% part of that THEIR).  

    Her comments, up to this point, have been subtle hints about how you are NOT meeting their standards.  

    So while they DID overstep their boundaries by going into the house and into your bedroom (unless you had dirty dishes or food stuffs in there - then they have every right to do so), unless you are truly renters (i.e. paying them true market value) then you are nothing more than their children living under their roof, creating messes in their home.  

    So move out. 
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  • Where is your dh in all of this?  What does he think?  Because to me, this is a situation where he needs to talk to his dad.  It is their house, but FIL says it's "basically" yours?  Your DH needs to clarify this . If his dad truly thinks it's his right to come in whenever he wants and not only clean but rearrange your things - then I agree w/ Illumine- it's time to move out. 

    If his dad doesn't assert that this is his right and he'll keep doing it, then perhaps DH can get to a better place of understanding and ask that his dad not do this anymore. 

    As for SMIL and her comments- you need to start responding.  Nicely but firmly.  She makes comments about how you clean, I'd look at her and firmly say "I'm comfortable with my ability to clean.".  Period and just look at her. 

    Say something a couple times and HOPEFULLY she'll realize that she's overstepping her bounds. 
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  • Ditto Ilumine.

    Move out.  Next week.  Seriously.  Now that you know and understand the "price" of staying in FIL's house rent-free, be grown-ups and get your own place.  You might not be able to pay off your loans quite as quickly, but being self-sufficient will be worth it. 

    Once you have your own place, you won't have to worry about your SMIL making comments about your housekeeping skills, because you won't have to invite her over.  You won't have to worry about your inlaws coming into THEIR house and moving your stuff around (as I'm sure you don't have a lease, I don't think you're legally recognized as renters and they can legally come in and do whatever they want whenever they want - it's their house).  They've proven now that they don't really consider it to be "your" house......so stop playing house in theirs and get your own place.

    And if I were you, I'd change your screen name.  I get what it is supposed to be, but without the i in "is" being capitalized, it doesn't read that way.

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  • PenIsMightier said:

    It is your father in law's second wife. Not your stepmother in law
    Backstory:

    If anyone was on the Knot a couple years back, we may know each other, as I was pretty active in the months leading up to my wedding. Mostly because I needed the moral support because my MIL was diagnosed with stage four cancer just months before the big day, and it was all a complicated mess. Anyway, since then, within eight months of meeting a woman, my FIL remarried. DH was rather upset that his father moved on so quickly, but many talks were had, and it was definitely resolved; we all understood that FIL was an adult, could make his own decisions, and needed to do what was right for him.

    My SMIL (I cannot refer to her as my MIL, I have one MIL and she is up in the bright and shiny place in the sky now) is a lovely person, but is definitely somebody that takes some getting used to, and we're still not entirely used to her. She could not be more different than FIL's late wife, which is a good thing I suppose, considering him marrying a clone of his wife would be really too hard to bear.

    But the thing is, she's really trying to make everyone in the family comfortable with her presence, and it's gotten to the point where she's overcompensating and becoming overbearing. I definitely feel for her; this is not an easy situation to fit yourself into, but I just don't know how to behave around her anymore.

    She is very close with her nieces and nephews (she never was married or had children of her own, so she is close to her siblings and their families), and she will consistently mention them, particularly her nieces, when speaking to me about how I should be keeping my house, and how I should be planning my life.

    This is nonsense. Stand up for yourself and do not permit her to compare you to anybody.

    Usually I just sort of smile and nod when she talks like this,

    Not anymore you don't, starting with right now. Tell her to cut it out when she does it again.

    but then about a week ago, I came home to find her and my FIL in my house, cleaning. I should probably mention that DH and I recently finished college, and are living in the house (with my SIL as a roommate, which is a whole other story) that FIL lived in before moving in with his new wife, free of charge, while we pay off loans.


    Why this is never a good idea to live with others when you are married, and particularly when you are newly wedded. MOVE OUT.

    It's an incredibly generous offer, and I know it's not really our house, but FIL has made it clear it might as well be. 

    Generous it may be but you ultimately "pay" for living there when antics like these happen. Move out.

    I was raised by a mother who was very proud of her home, and it was a trait she passed along to me. So, I was pretty horrified when I got off a busy, long day of work to find SMIL and FIL cleaning. As much as I appreciated the gesture, it was embarrassing; we hadn't had a lot of time to clean that week because of busy schedules, but I had planned a cleaning day for my next day off. I also go into my bedroom, and find that they had gone into it to put things in there that they'd found that didn't belong in common areas, like my iPod and some tax papers I'd left lying around


    For love of mike, lock up wht is not anybody's business but yours and H's.

    This, combined with consistent "my niece Blahblah is so good at doing laundry, you should ask her for tips" type of talks, has started to really get on my nerves. I fully admit that I'm having a hard time seeing her in my MIL's place; MIL and I were incredibly close when she was still with us, and I know part of my annoyance is that I don't want to replace her. But basically, I just want to know if I'm overreacting, I guess? What should I do? Before we were married, I never really thought I'd have to deal with the overbearing MIL issue, and basically I just never prepared myself.
    It's not a MIL --- this is your father in law's wife.

    Move out. That's how to solve this mess.

    And move far away enough sot hat these 2 don't pop in or visit you unbidden. DOne done and done.
  • And PS:

    YOu and your H need to learn how to stand up for yourselves.

    Get some counseling and learn how to be more assertive. This will be most of your battle won. GL.
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