This is what's wrong with the youth of today

R.Wilsonny

Just an open discussion about the attitude of this generation of young adults that feel their mommy and daddy owe them something. I saw this post of Facebook just now and am sitting here shaking my head:

"This generations parents need to wake the fuck up. They spend thousands of dollars on vacations and such, but meanwhile their children starve and cannot pay their bills."

Seriously? What is wrong with this generation of kids?

BlueBirdMB

Entitled much?  

I'm on the fence about this.  You could find discussions like this from every generation probably in history.  Ever generation thinks that the next is spoiled and needs to wake up.

Howeverrrrrrrr I am of this generation and I can't handle how entitled most people are who are close to my age.  Wake up- everyone has a damn college degree, that doesn't mean you are entitled to your dream job.  Work hard, don't expect to be handed anything.  It drives me crazy how my friends are pissed that they can't get a job they want- they could get a job, but they refuse that and bitch about how they can't pay their bills.  I started a business at the lowest point of the economy while working 2 other jobs that I didn't like.  Deal with it.

R.Wilsonny

Yea, I didn't mean to pigeonhole everyone from this generation but I feel like they seem more entitled - especially when I see comments like the one I posted. Maybe I'm getting old but it just seems so strange to me that people have this attitude....

BlueBirdMB

R.Wilsonny said:

Yea, I didn't mean to pigeonhole everyone from this generation but I feel like they seem more entitled - especially when I see comments like the one I posted. Maybe I'm getting old but it just seems so strange to me that people have this attitude....

I didn't think you were pigeonholing

TarponMonoxide

R.Wilsonny said:

Just an open discussion about the attitude of this generation of young adults that feel their mommy and daddy owe them something. I saw this post of Facebook just now and am sitting here shaking my head: "This generations parents need to wake the fuck up. They spend thousands of dollars on vacations and such, but meanwhile their children starve and cannot pay their bills." Seriously? What is wrong with this generation of kids?

This is skewed.

(I am guessing also that the poster is roundaboutly referring to the fact that the "child" is in hock thanks to the tuition aid; that's a whole other issue in itself.

Work your way through school or choose a trade school instead or join the service and let the GI BIll pay for your education....but that's a whole other thread in itself.)

Emmy1493

I agree. I have a younger sister whom acts like she is owed everything. Now, she is not an adult, but a teen. So maybe it's a teenage attitude thing, but still. I see a lot of kids and young adults my age who act like M&D owe them everything. Like, Uhhh, I was out of the house at 18 and though H and I lived together and split bills, I still had to work a lot and go to school to make my half of the money. It wasn't easy, and still isn't. I am glad however that I did all of it because it made me appreciate things a hellava lot more.

R.Wilsonny

TarponMonoxide said:

R.Wilsonny said:

Just an open discussion about the attitude of this generation of young adults that feel their mommy and daddy owe them something. I saw this post of Facebook just now and am sitting here shaking my head:

"This generations parents need to wake the fuck up. They spend thousands of dollars on vacations and such, but meanwhile their children starve and cannot pay their bills."

Seriously? What is wrong with this generation of kids?

This is skewed.

(I am guessing also that the poster is roundaboutly referring to the fact that the "child" is in hock thanks to the tuition aid; that's a whole other issue in itself.

Work your way through school or choose a trade school instead or join the service and let the GI BIll pay for your education....but that's a whole other thread in itself.)


Believe it or not, the person who posted that is a grown ass adult, which makes it even more amazing that they would feel their parents somehow owe them something. Idk, I moved out when I was 19....perhaps a little too young but when I look back on that, I am glad I did and while it wasn't always easy, I grew so much from that
experience. But yea, I see what you're saying too. It's funny, whenever I find myself saying 'kids these days' I feel so old....maybe our parents really did do the same thing when referring to our generation

Disneygeek77

It's not just parents.  Many relatives feel they are entitled to your money.  My husband has siblings who think we aren't allowed to go on vacations of one if them is having money troubles, due to their own bad decisions.   Some people just think that is they have a relative with money, then they should be there to rescue them.  

Emmy1493

Disneygeek77 said:

It's not just parents.  Many relatives feel they are entitled to your money.  My husband has siblings who think we aren't allowed to go on vacations of one if them is having money troubles, due to their own bad decisions.   Some people just think that is they have a relative with money, then they should be there to rescue them.  

Oh hell no. They could kiss my ass for all I care. Because you make bad choices I can't go on vacay? NOPE. Becaus that makes too much sense haha. Sorry yall have to endure that.

Disneygeek77

Well people just like to count other people's money.  Even if they are struggling due to circumstances, I still think it is ok for us to go on vacation.

WendyGR

In many cultures your money is your family's money. Not saying it's right, and it's certainly not how I grew up, but it's the way much of the world lives. 

R.Wilsonny

Disneygeek77 said:

It's not just parents.  Many relatives feel they are entitled to your money.  My husband has siblings who think we aren't allowed to go on vacations of one if them is having money troubles, due to their own bad decisions.   Some people just think that is they have a relative with money, then they should be there to rescue them.  

Oh don't even get me started....I stopped posting on FB about vacations because one particular family member would make snarky comments about it (like must be nice, etc). Not my fault you make bad financial decisions that prevent you from taking a vacation....

Then there's my brother....don't get me wrong, he's not a bad person and I love him dearly but he's 22, lives at home, which isn't bad because he is still in college. The problem with him though is he works the bare minimum and only does that because my parents finally bitched at him enough to get a job, but literally, he works only 2 days a week. He has off from school in the summer - you would think he'd want to work more to pick up extra $, but nope. And even better - he pays for absolutely NOTHING. Not even his cell phone bill - my parents pay for everything. Supposedly he is saving up to buy a new guitar but my mom just told me he has absolutely zero saved. Not sure what he's spending his money on and I guess he will expect my parents to buy him the guitar like he expects everything else. Meanwhile, my mom bitches to me about all of this.

and ps - I've told my mom many times to stop enabling him.....but nope...no one listens to me....smh

R.Wilsonny

WendyGR said:

In many cultures your money is your family's money. Not saying it's right, and it's certainly not how I grew up, but it's the way much of the world lives. 

Oh hell no to this....the only 'our money' situation I have is the one with my H. And I intend to keep it that way lol

MommyLiberty5013

I feel this too. I sing in a band at my church. The pastor who leads the band and I met to do worship prep today for this Sunday's up-coming service. We invited a high school girl from the congregation to our meeting to see if she would be a good fit vocally and personality-wise for our band, which we are trying to grow. Keep in mind she has never worshipped or sang with us before and she said, I kid you not, "The key of this song isn't good for my voice. We need to change it."

I am 32. The pastor/band leader is in his mid-50s. I just can't ever recall a time as a sophomore in HS where I would have felt that it was my role, job, or privledge to tell 2 adults in leadership positions at my church, whom I'd never sang with before, to alter the music just to my preferred vocal range/key.

I also dislike the perpetual student mentality of many 20-somethings. "Well, I cannot find a job that is worth my time or effort, so I'll just go to school and rack up debt or get my parents to pay for it until I decide what makes me happiest." The news flash I'd like to share is that most people have jobs that pay the bills and are tolerable. Would it be nice for everybody to be 100% in love with every aspect of their job, 100% of the time? Yes. It's just not realistic, though. And, responsibilities dictate that people need to put food on the table and pay bills BEFORE they can absolutely adore their work.

 

 

BlueBirdMB

MommyLiberty5013 said:

I feel this too. I sing in a band at my church. The pastor who leads the band and I met to do worship prep today for this Sunday's up-coming service. We invited a high school girl from the congregation to our meeting to see if she would be a good fit vocally and personality-wise for our band, which we are trying to grow. Keep in mind she has never worshipped or sang with us before and she said, I kid you not, "The key of this song isn't good for my voice. We need to change it."

I am 32. The pastor/band leader is in his mid-50s. I just can't ever recall a time as a sophomore in HS where I would have felt that it was my role, job, or privledge to tell 2 adults in leadership positions at my church, whom I'd never sang with before, to alter the music just to my preferred vocal range/key.

I also dislike the perpetual student mentality of many 20-somethings. "Well, I cannot find a job that is worth my time or effort, so I'll just go to school and rack up debt or get my parents to pay for it until I decide what makes me happiest." The news flash I'd like to share is that most people have jobs that pay the bills and are tolerable. Would it be nice for everybody to be 100% in love with every aspect of their job, 100% of the time? Yes. It's just not realistic, though. And, responsibilities dictate that people need to put food on the table and pay bills BEFORE they can absolutely adore their work.

 

 

Ok, I 100% agree with you on all points besides this.  I am professional vocalist.  If she was the soloist, then she deserves to have the song in a good key for her- any professional would do this.  If she wasn't the soloist, then she just has severe issues… probably isn't very good and is looking for excuses. 

MommyLiberty5013

BlueBirdMB said:

MommyLiberty5013 said:

I feel this too. I sing in a band at my church. The pastor who leads the band and I met to do worship prep today for this Sunday's up-coming service. We invited a high school girl from the congregation to our meeting to see if she would be a good fit vocally and personality-wise for our band, which we are trying to grow. Keep in mind she has never worshipped or sang with us before and she said, I kid you not, "The key of this song isn't good for my voice. We need to change it."

I am 32. The pastor/band leader is in his mid-50s. I just can't ever recall a time as a sophomore in HS where I would have felt that it was my role, job, or privledge to tell 2 adults in leadership positions at my church, whom I'd never sang with before, to alter the music just to my preferred vocal range/key.

I also dislike the perpetual student mentality of many 20-somethings. "Well, I cannot find a job that is worth my time or effort, so I'll just go to school and rack up debt or get my parents to pay for it until I decide what makes me happiest." The news flash I'd like to share is that most people have jobs that pay the bills and are tolerable. Would it be nice for everybody to be 100% in love with every aspect of their job, 100% of the time? Yes. It's just not realistic, though. And, responsibilities dictate that people need to put food on the table and pay bills BEFORE they can absolutely adore their work.

 

 

Ok, I 100% agree with you on all points besides this.  I am professional vocalist.  If she was the soloist, then she deserves to have the song in a good key for her- any professional would do this.  If she wasn't the soloist, then she just has severe issues… probably isn't very good and is looking for excuses. 

None of us are soloists. We sing as a group. I do agree that any soloist needs to have the appropriate key for his/her voice. That's just not the case here.

janined22

My 22yr old son always tries to make us feel guilty for taking vacations, we do invite him and mind you he lives with us and we pay for everything for him, but he says instead of us thinking of only ourselves maybe we should put money away for when he is ready to move out and give him money to go out with his friends. And when we go out to dinner he complains saying that I should at least cook something for him, I say you've got two hands and that means you can make something for yourself.  I did my job, now it's up to you and kids these days are very arrogant and feel entitled.

a month ago I asked him to move out by September because he wasn't working or going to school, he is now going through the series of tests to become a police officer but is still very arrogant.

Tofumonkey

Oh. My. God.

My jaw is on the floor.

Ilumine

WendyGR said:

In many cultures your money is your family's money. Not saying it's right, and it's certainly not how I grew up, but it's the way much of the world lives. 

Which part of the world are you talking about? 

Tofumonkey

I would agree with that Illumine. A large number of Asian, middle eastern, african, eastern european, northern european cultures swing that way. The extreme separation of nuclear family members can be easily viewed as a very 'western' cultural trait.

I've no idea about central or south america.

Tofumonkey

janined22 said:

My 22yr old son always tries to make us feel guilty for taking vacations, we do invite him and mind you he lives with us and we pay for everything for him, but he says instead of us thinking of only ourselves maybe we should put money away for when he is ready to move out and give him money to go out with his friends. And when we go out to dinner he complains saying that I should at least cook something for him, I say you've got two hands and that means you can make something for yourself.  I did my job, now it's up to you and kids these days are very arrogant and feel entitled.

a month ago I asked him to move out by September because he wasn't working or going to school, he is now going through the series of tests to become a police officer but is still very arrogant.

I've had a think about this and, even though my kids are still very young, I can see them one day saying something like this.

But it would be read out, post-mortem, as evidence at my trial.

Ilumine

Tofumonkey said:

I would agree with that Illumine. A large number of Asian, middle eastern, african, eastern european, northern european cultures swing that way. The extreme separation of nuclear family members can be easily viewed as a very 'western' cultural trait.

I've no idea about central or south america.

But does it swing that way because of an innate need for control of the family and their money or is it caused out of financial necessity?  

EVERYONE working hard and pooling resources for the common good is not the same thing as expecting your family work hard to take care of YOUR needs.  

RamaLamaDD

My last job there was often an issue with having enough money in the account to cover payroll (hence finding a new job) yet my bosses son could call and ask for money and a cheque would be cut and sent. It was ridiculous.