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out of control neighbors...

So, hubby and I live in a beautiful condo that has more than enough space for the two of us, hardwood floors, and an amazing river view from our bedroom. And , somehow this beautiful place was in our budget. Here is the issue, our downstairs neighbors are making it VERY hard to enjoy our home (the condos are like a tripple decker, we are on the second floor). Our landlord owns the third floor and lives above us. She is very sweet. However, the first floor family owns their unit independantly, and thinks that have more rights since they own and we rent.  

There are two entrences for the condo unit, the front facing a busy road and the nice private back entrance. There is a hing lock on the back door that you can not open with a key. They have locked me out several times because they do not want us using the back door, eventhough it gives access to the common room and then the stairs to our place. (This violates the condo agreement, which they signed). Today the door was locked in the afternoon and the guy was there cleaning. I asked him several times to please open the door and he ignored me, and went to the hallway, leaving me locked outside. I can't believe someone with two children would be so rude and inmature! They also use the common area as a playroom for their children (which they are not supposed to do) and it is often very messy. They also yell at us for "waking up their two year old son" when we are sleeping and bang on the walls if I workout at 6-7pm when my landlord works out in her place even later and does intense cardio. They let their kids run up and down the stairs bright and early on weekend mornings and they scream in the hallway. At the last meeting, they got mad at me for accidently dropping my keys at 10pm when I came home and apparently the sound of my keys hitting the ground was too much to bear. They even did a wonderful reanactment. (They are in their late 30s early 40s). When I see them in the driveway, they usually do not say hello back and instead give me mean looks. They are being extra out of control because they know our lease is almost up and want us to leave (my landlord said due to the issues she would not rent the second floor out again if we left and they know that). My landlord agreed to go with me to talk to them, and the man swore at us and tried to say lied about us breaking the lease. She then called to schedual a meeting with him and he hung up on her. 

Our lease is up in two weeks but its very hard to find a decent place in our budget and if we moved, we would have to be in a 30-45 min commute from work. ATM I am an 8 min. drive and hubby is 3/10ths of a mile from work so we got very lucky there! We would also have to sacrifice space and deal with the hastle of moving which we don't want to do. Landlord agreed to do month to month so at least we don't have to stay a whole year but it is getting so bad with the neighbors and they won't listen to the lady who owns 2/3rds of the building! SO FUSTURATING.

Re: out of control neighbors...

  • kbracero1 said:
    So, hubby and I live in a beautiful condo that has more than enough space for the two of us, hardwood floors, and an amazing river view from our bedroom. And , somehow this beautiful place was in our budget. Here is the issue, our downstairs neighbors are making it VERY hard to enjoy our home (the condos are like a tripple decker, we are on the second floor). Our landlord owns the third floor and lives above us. She is very sweet. However, the first floor family owns their unit independantly, and thinks that have more rights since they own and we rent.  

    There are two entrences for the condo unit, the front facing a busy road and the nice private back entrance. There is a hing lock on the back door that you can not open with a key. They have locked me out several times because they do not want us using the back door, eventhough it gives access to the common room and then the stairs to our place. (This violates the condo agreement, which they signed). Today the door was locked in the afternoon and the guy was there cleaning. I asked him several times to please open the door and he ignored me, and went to the hallway, leaving me locked outside. I can't believe someone with two children would be so rude and inmature! They also use the common area as a playroom for their children (which they are not supposed to do) and it is often very messy. They also yell at us for "waking up their two year old son" when we are sleeping and bang on the walls if I workout at 6-7pm when my landlord works out in her place even later and does intense cardio. They let their kids run up and down the stairs bright and early on weekend mornings and they scream in the hallway. At the last meeting, they got mad at me for accidently dropping my keys at 10pm when I came home and apparently the sound of my keys hitting the ground was too much to bear. They even did a wonderful reanactment. (They are in their late 30s early 40s). When I see them in the driveway, they usually do not say hello back and instead give me mean looks. They are being extra out of control because they know our lease is almost up and want us to leave (my landlord said due to the issues she would not rent the second floor out again if we left and they know that). My landlord agreed to go with me to talk to them, and the man swore at us and tried to say lied about us breaking the lease. She then called to schedual a meeting with him and he hung up on her. 

    Our lease is up in two weeks but its very hard to find a decent place in our budget and if we moved, we would have to be in a 30-45 min commute from work. ATM I am an 8 min. drive and hubby is 3/10ths of a mile from work so we got very lucky there! We would also have to sacrifice space and deal with the hastle of moving which we don't want to do. Landlord agreed to do month to month so at least we don't have to stay a whole year but it is getting so bad with the neighbors and they won't listen to the lady who owns 2/3rds of the building! SO FUSTURATING.
    Locking you out of your domain is not only an issue for the condo association, it is illegal!

    There is a thing called an ouster. You have been prevented from getting into your dwelling; an attorney can tell you more about this.

    I wold complain to the condo asociation and I would also call the police and let them talk to the neighbors that are doing this; the second the gate is locked, call the cops. Perhaps you can go to the police station ahead of the time you call and explain what's going on.

    I doubt they will argue with a cop.

    If this keeps up after you've spoken to the person's landlord or the condo association, retain an attorney and let that person handle it. Maybe he or she can write them a letter and send it certified mail
  • I agree with PP, if you have spoken with the landlord, get an attorney and let the police know what is going on. Just because they own and you rent doesn't give them the right to walk all over you and treat the entire building as their own.

  • edited June 2014
    I wouldn't move out on account of these 2 putzes.

    Let us know what happens. GL.

    That they let their kids scream away isn't disruptive...but the sound of our keys hitting the floor (and lasting for about a second) IS --- what? is there an echo in there where you dropped your keys?

    They also sound nutty, in addition to being bad parents. Don't let very small kiddoes play on stairs and unsupervised --- wow, suppose one of those kids fell and got seriously injured?

    Document every single one of these incidents.  If you have a town council, go to that meeting also and complain. Maybe that would help, too.

     
  • I'm sorry for what you're going through, it sounds awful!! Last year my DH rented a place while we were house hunting in our new city, and our situation was very similar. The people below us were always complaining about us, and would bang on their ceiling whenever we did so much as walk around. The landlord knew us and knew we were quiet and never even had people over (we didn't even know anyone in our city yet, so we were quiet as mice!) so he didn't take the complaints seriously. But it was a huge pain in the butt to always have the neighbors coming up to complain, and sometimes I know they weren't hearing us (sometimes we were all asleep when the guy came and banged on the door). I knew we were leaving when we bought a house, and honestly, I'm so glad we did. To me, it's not worth it to always be worried about what you're doing and how the neighbors will retaliate. The commute would be worth it to me. But that's totally up to you. They sound bonkers and I would probably move, especially if your landlord isn't doing anything about them. But only you know how much you're willing to put up with. I feel for you, it's horrible how much bad neighbors can affect your life!
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