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Crooked parenting situation, stepmother struggles

So this is going to be lengthy; my apologies.  I feel as though my stepson’s mother does not carry her weight for parenting responsibilities and it has left me feeling bitter.  DH and I have been married 3 years.  DH’s son is 16 years old.  Visitation prior to our marriage was 5 weeks each year (1 week xmas vacation and 4 weeks summer vacation).  3 months into our marriage stepson’s mother called DH to say stepson was being a trouble maker in school and she had already made the decision that he should come live with us in NY for a 6 month trial period.  The hope was that he would be better behaved in a new setting and return to FL with her.  DH was going to stop paying child support for the 6 months.  When I told DH stepson’s mother should be sending us child support for the 6 months DH protested saying he didn’t want to rock the boat, upset her, ruin his opportunity for stepson to live with us, etc.  Stepson’s mother insisted that stepson would not be informed of the plan.  Stepson’s impression was that he was here for his one week xmas visit and we were the ones burdened with telling him the decision that she had made.  Stepson was told by us several times if he wanted to stay permanently, he was welcome to stay.  Stepson decided after a few months he wanted to stay with us permanently.  Stepson’s mother appeared indifferent regarding his decision.  We have never gotten a cent from his mother. I pissed and moaned about this early on to DH stating that she should pay child support speaking of fairness and child costs but I eventually realized my complaints fell on deaf ears.

The past 2 summers stepson has gone to visit his mother for 3-4 weeks during the summer with no xmas visit.  This summer I told DH I wanted the visit to be longer for several reasons.  I love this kid, he can be sweet, but the last year he is doing what teenagers do: toeing the line with our authority, being defiant with our requests for chores and household behavior, emotional outbursts /moodiness, etc.  I would love sometime to focus on DH/us.  I feel that a lot of the time the house is dominated by stepson’s needs, wants, and sometimes outright demands (I understand this happens to some extent when you have kids).  Also, we have started TTC and being intimate before was never a problem but trying to plan intimacy with a teenager in the house has been way harder than I thought it would be.  Two months with just DH would be nice.  I feel like a bad person for saying it but I feel stepson’s mother owes DH so much more than taking care of her son for 3-4 weeks out of the year. And maybe a longer visit would take the edge off that for me.  DH and I pay for all of his needs including all travel expenses to and from FL.

I don’t know if I will ever get over feeling that his mother does so much less than I would expect of a mother.  I want to stand by my request for an 8 week visit for stepson but am receiving wishy-washy support from DH.  DH initially said we need some time alone and to have him visit longer would be ideal but now it’s like he won’t commit to that plan.  Stepson flies out today and DH has not yet bought a return ticket “incase” stepson gets homesick or is having a miserable time in FL.  To which I said “[Stepson] is miserable here sometimes too, he’ll get over it.”  Am I being unfair in requesting stepson have a longer visit this year and that I get more support from DH for this request?  I wouldn’t say I feel entitled to anything but I would like to feel like my vote counts.  I feel it rarely does when it comes to these family decisions.  I just want my feeling validated.  If you’ve read this far thanks for hearing me out.

Re: Crooked parenting situation, stepmother struggles

  • Let's pretend for a minute. Pretend this is your child and it is your husband requesting you send him away for a longer period of time so he can have "time off". I don't think you would feel the same way you do now if this was your child. You married a man with a child. It doesn't matter that his mother isn't doing much. Because of that you should want to do more for this child not send him away for longer to someone who clearly doesn't want him. You are being selfish and I am sure this child feels you don't really care for him. I feel bad for this child. You signed up for this so if you don't like it you should be the one to leave.
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    spikeinc said:
    Let's pretend for a minute. Pretend this is your child and it is your husband requesting you send him away for a longer period of time so he can have "time off". I don't think you would feel the same way you do now if this was your child. You married a man with a child. It doesn't matter that his mother isn't doing much. Because of that you should want to do more for this child not send him away for longer to someone who clearly doesn't want him. You are being selfish and I am sure this child feels you don't really care for him. I feel bad for this child. You signed up for this so if you don't like it you should be the one to leave.
    Ditto all of this.  I feel really sorry for this kid.  his mother doesn't want him, you don't want him.  Kudos to his dad for sticking up for his child and his relationship with his child. 

    To be honest, your post kind of makes me sick.  Does it suck that his mother doesn't seem to care? Yes.  But it's sucks FOR HIM.  For you to be so damn focused on the $$... wow. 

    You married a man who has a child w/ another woman.  That is a LOT of baggage.  A LOT.  And it's hard.  I want to have some empathy for you.  But it's hard w/ what you wrote.  And it kind of scares me for that boy when/if you all do have a baby.  For as indifferent as you seem now, it will only get worse.  And for as much as you want "us" time now, I VERY much expect it's going to become "the 3 of us (the baby) need time to bond as a family.  How can we do that with his kid around?".

  • I've read back both of the above replies and I get it.  I went back and read what I wrote after reading these replies and it does sound like all I care about is me, my time, my DH, and when am I going to get what's coming to me.  You don't know me and I really wish that I could explain everything but even in writing it still might not be enough.  I know one stepmother who is in a somewhat similar situation and she gets what it's like.  I never said I don't want him, I am happy that he is with us, I have made it clear to all involved he should be with us if that is what he wants.

    DH and I are the one's that have to pick up for stepson's mother's shortcomings.  I don't know how to get over her being a deadbeat mother.  And I know a longer visit isn't going to change anything for the future.  Maybe the only good advice I am going to get from nesters is stop whining and just accept it as it is.  But please don't say that I don't want or care for this child. 

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    I don't know how to get over her being a deadbeat mother. 

    My best advice?  Stop caring about how this affects YOU.  Worry about how it affects that boy.  Because seriously - it does.  Put your anger at her into energy into making sure he KNOWS how much he is wanted and loved. 
  • Well he is still going to cry and sulk over what she does and doesn't do.  Stop caring about it, yeah, ok.  But SHE is still a deadbeat and yes it affects him.  Me loving him 100 and 10 percent is not going to make everything better.
  • Yes it is. I was the kid in this situation.

    All I ever wanted as a kid was a family that loved me and wanted me, not one that just tossed me around between them whenever I was most convenient. I had the stepmothers like you that wanted 'alone time' which was basically 'time without me' and I remember living with a load of different people at different times because well, nobody wanted me.

    You loving him and accepting him would, actually, make this whole thing so much better.
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  • Seriously. I could be the kid in your post. When I was 11 I went to 'visit' my mother. Turns out they had already agreed that it was my mother's turn and I would be living there from now on. Right down to them trying to make it seem like it was my decision.

    You have NO IDEA how much guilt I felt over that as a child. To actually have to make the decision of who to live with - to decide to hurt my father by telling him that I didn't want to live with him any more and wanted to stay in this other province with my mother. Then having to effing CALL him to tell him this with my mother standing right there - and the two of them had planned this all along. It broke me as a child. It absolutely broke me.

    I can't believe grown adults can be so selfish as to defer that pressure and stress to make a CHILD come up with and deliver that decision against another parent.
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    My point is- if you want to be angry at her for not being a better mother, then be angry at HER.  There are a LOT of shitty parents out there and I too don't get it.

    BUT - DON'T TAKE IT OUT ON THE KID.  Sending him off for longer than 3 or 4 weeks to get "alone" time and to force her to have him for a longer period of time so that her parenting responsibilities are "fair" is NOT the way to do it.  It's putting that boy in the middle and that's not fair.  It's not HIS fault he got a shitty mother.

    And to back what spike said - you acknowledge that this is also the boy just being a normal teenager.  what's going to happen when YOUR kid becomes a teenager?  Would you want to ship that child off somewhere just so that you don't have to deal with it? 

    Probably not. 

    Just because there is technically somewhere for him to go does NOT mean you should send him off. 
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    And right now I'm applauding your DH for saying "no" to you and putting his child first.


  • Wow, you are touching on a lot of things that I never said.  When did DH say "no."  And I never said anything about stepson digging his heels into stay with us or begging to be loved or having a place to call his own, nothing of that nature.  I have never made any living arrangement decisions for him, that's out of my hands.  He's been looking forward to go down there and always thinks the sun shines out of her ass when she is with him.  You all are warping this into something it's not.  I don't know why I go on this site honestly.  People are always tearing each other down in forums for those looking for advice.  Go ahead and make this whatever you want it to be in your head, I don't need your delusions.

  • So this is going to be lengthy; my apologies.  I feel as though my stepson’s mother does not carry her weight for parenting responsibilities and it has left me feeling bitter.  DH and I have been married 3 years.  DH’s son is 16 years old.  Visitation prior to our marriage was 5 weeks each year (1 week xmas vacation and 4 weeks summer vacation).  3 months into our marriage stepson’s mother called DH to say stepson was being a trouble maker in school and she had already made the decision that he should come live with us in NY for a 6 month trial period.  The hope was that he would be better behaved in a new setting and return to FL with her.  DH was going to stop paying child support for the 6 months.  When I told DH stepson’s mother should be sending us child support for the 6 months DH protested saying he didn’t want to rock the boat, upset her, ruin his opportunity for stepson to live with us, etc.  Stepson’s mother insisted that stepson would not be informed of the plan.  Stepson’s impression was that he was here for his one week xmas visit and we were the ones burdened with telling him the decision that she had made.  Stepson was told by us several times if he wanted to stay permanently, he was welcome to stay.  Stepson decided after a few months he wanted to stay with us permanently.  Stepson’s mother appeared indifferent regarding his decision.  We have never gotten a cent from his mother. I pissed and moaned about this early on to DH stating that she should pay child support speaking of fairness and child costs but I eventually realized my complaints fell on deaf ears.

    The past 2 summers stepson has gone to visit his mother for 3-4 weeks during the summer with no xmas visit.  This summer I told DH I wanted the visit to be longer for several reasons.  I love this kid, he can be sweet, but the last year he is doing what teenagers do: toeing the line with our authority, being defiant with our requests for chores and household behavior, emotional outbursts /moodiness, etc.  I would love sometime to focus on DH/us.  I feel that a lot of the time the house is dominated by stepson’s needs, wants, and sometimes outright demands (I understand this happens to some extent when you have kids).  Also, we have started TTC and being intimate before was never a problem but trying to plan intimacy with a teenager in the house has been way harder than I thought it would be.  Two months with just DH would be nice.  I feel like a bad person for saying it but I feel stepson’s mother owes DH so much more than taking care of her son for 3-4 weeks out of the year. And maybe a longer visit would take the edge off that for me.  DH and I pay for all of his needs including all travel expenses to and from FL.

    I don’t know if I will ever get over feeling that his mother does so much less than I would expect of a mother.  I want to stand by my request for an 8 week visit for stepson but am receiving wishy-washy support from DH.  DH initially said we need some time alone and to have him visit longer would be ideal but now it’s like he won’t commit to that plan.  Stepson flies out today and DH has not yet bought a return ticket “incase” stepson gets homesick or is having a miserable time in FL.  To which I said “[Stepson] is miserable here sometimes too, he’ll get over it.”  Am I being unfair in requesting stepson have a longer visit this year and that I get more support from DH for this request?  I wouldn’t say I feel entitled to anything but I would like to feel like my vote counts.  I feel it rarely does when it comes to these family decisions.  I just want my feeling validated.  If you’ve read this far thanks for hearing me out.

    To obtain sole custody of a child is also a legal matter.

    YOu need to be the one who has sole "poiwer of attorney" over the child in case there is a big problem --- and did his mother and his father send the kid in for a medical workup to perhaps rule out a physical cause for his problem?

    What type of "troublemaking" problems did he have? Just curious.

    I love this kid, he can be sweet, but the last year he is doing what teenagers do: toeing the line with our authority, being defiant with our requests for chores and household behavior, emotional outbursts /moodiness, etc.

    I dont know how much of this is "generation gap" and how much of this is a behavioral problem --- at any rate, he needs to know he has to follow rules -- bet there are none at his mother's house -- and he needs to be KEPT BUSY.

    A busy kid is a happy kid.

    What activites does he partake in? I suggest one sport and one extracurricular activity - make it a must.

    And also a must that he is to mind his father and you while in your home and that is no questions asked.
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     He's been looking forward to go down there and always thinks the sun shines out of her ass when she is with him.  .

    And not once did you say this.  All I read is what a bad person and mom she is.  That gives no indication that HE doesn't agree.  Because if he did... why did he want to live with you all?

    Your DH basically has said "no" when he won't commit to sending his son to stay w/ his mother for the 8 weeks that YOU want. 
  • Well I really don't know what to tell you.  Some people have pretty much poured their hearts out to you in order to give you some perspective and empathy and you still don't get it.  I don't think you ever will.

    That poor child has all my sympathy.  At least it seems he has a good father figure.  
  • Honestly it sounds like you came on here hoping to get some sympathy and someone to agree with what you want to do. Unfortunately, that can't be done. What you seem to be failing to grasp is that your feelings don't count in this situation. You shouldn't say that you are happy to have him there if that is what he wants, you should say you are happy to have him there because you want the best for him which clearly his mother isn't providing. Of course he thinks his mother is the stars and moon. He would have to have a lot of therapy and maturing to see any differently at this point and you know what, he shouldn't have to feel otherwise. The problem here isn't his mom, the problem is at you are so angry with her and upset that your needs aren't coming first ever. Guess what? Kids needs always come first. Again, you chose to be with someone with a child so you chose this and no one forced you to be here. Try to forgive this woman her shortcomings and do your best to make your ss feel like you WANT him there every damn day. If you need some therapy to deal wi your anger then get some. Two more things, one, just because you found another person to validate your feelings that your current choices are right, doesn't make it so. If you were in the right, you wouldn't have everyone here trying to show you how wrong your perspective and behavior is. Second, just because you don't like the way people are responding to you doesn't mean you shouldn't try to take some good away from this. I hope you can so your ss can feel like he has some more support and love. Good luck

    I've read back both of the above replies and I get it.  I went back and read what I wrote after reading these replies and it does sound like all I care about is me, my time, my DH, and when am I going to get what's coming to me.  You don't know me and I really wish that I could explain everything but even in writing it still might not be enough.  I know one stepmother who is in a somewhat similar situation and she gets what it's like.  I never said I don't want him, I am happy that he is with us, I have made it clear to all involved he should be with us if that is what he wants.

    DH and I are the one's that have to pick up for stepson's mother's shortcomings.  I don't know how to get over her being a deadbeat mother.  And I know a longer visit isn't going to change anything for the future.  Maybe the only good advice I am going to get from nesters is stop whining and just accept it as it is.  But please don't say that I don't want or care for this child. 


  • I am the stepmother in a situation just like this. 

    And I honestly get sick and tired of being made out to be an Evil Disney Caricature because I want to parent my stepchild like I would my biological child. 

    That means that I should not be made out to be money grubbing or rocking the boat by demanding that the BIOLOGICAL MOTHER pays her share of the child support, just like my DH did when we did not have physical custody.  

    That means that I should not be made out to be a hunchbacked Richard III trying to hide my SS in the Tower of London because I want alone time with my husband. 

    For Christ's Sake - there are articles upon articles about how important Parent-Centered families are better than Children-Centered Families out there.  And I dare any one of you biological mothers to honestly tell me that you never ever want time away from your biological child(ren).  And that a week to a fortnight away from your teenagers doesn't sound heavenly. 

    Well guess what.  As a stepmother the pressure of parenting is even harder.  The second we come down on our stepchildren in any way, our motives are called into question.  Are we being Cinderella's Stepmother when ask our stepchildren to clean up after themselves or are we trying to instill, you know a work ethic.  

    Oh and do not forget the double standard that we stepparents are forced to live buy.  We are supposed to love our stepchildren like our own...but not.  We cannot take our stepdaughters to get their nails or hair done.  That's a biological mother's job.  We can play ball in our backyard, but if a stepfather wants to coach the little league team, WOAH now, that is the right of the Stepfather.  And god forbid the kids show us affection or calls us by a Paternal Name!  

    And watch out for favoritism. Just because affordable portable dvd players were not available in the mid 1990s, we should not provide one for the younger, half siblings.  That is not fair to the first set.  Just because BioMom doesn't believe in team sports and wouldn't allow the kids to play soccer, we should not allow our children to be on pee-wee soccer because it is not fair.  HOWEVER, if BioMom signs the step kids up for a sport that interferes with the Noncustodial parent's visitation time it is now OUR fault that the stepchild can't go to the game.  

    What lessons do stepchildren learn if we are not allowed to immediately correct a mouth teenager with a punishment, but are expected to wait till BioMommy or BioDaddy come home? Because at that point, the teacher and coaches and after school bosses get to have more control and demand more respect then the other adult providing a house and food and sundries to said child. 

    And let's talk about that house.  As a step-parent I am financially and legally obligated to cover anything that occurs while under our roof and our visitation time (that would be the royal, husband and I our). So if SS breaks a neighbors window, its my money that has to pay for it.  If SS brings drugs or alcohol into my house and gets busted, I am legally responsible.  And god forbid if someone gets hurt.   All the while I have no way to force my husband to parent our Stepchildren in a way that I deem that is appropriate. 

    So when I go to my husband and tell him that he either demands that SS's Biological mother starts paying child support or he will cover the increased expenses on his own that is not me being unloving towards my SS.  That is me protecting myself. 

    And I do not want to hear that bullshit about the OP knowing what she was getting into.  Because the BioMother knew what she was getting into when she got pregnant, had the child and raised said SS to the point she could no longer handle him.  

    Just like all the deadbeat father's out there, deadbeat mothers should be held accountable.  And asking her husband to hold his ex-wife accountable for their son does not make the OP The Evil Queen.  It makes her just like any Biological Mother who demands those same things from her ex-husband.  

    Look, I am not saying that all Stepmothers are pure at heart or that all stepchildren are whiny brats.  If anything, I do believe that there should be some extra consideration taken when making life long plans.  But dammit, I do not believe that Stepparents should not be allowed to have the same feelings as biological parents.  God knows I am counting down to next summer where I can send my daughter to my mother for Nana camp.  




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  • TarponMonoxide-  To answer your questions:

    DH has sole custody following SS's decision to stay and following legal processing of the change.

    SS's mother told us that SS was nearing school expulsion for a physical fight (whether or not expulsion was a reality I do not know, she only shared this after he had been living here a while).  We were aware of the fight from the beginning.  He and another boy got into a physical fight and fell onto a tuba and the tuba was damaged.  If I remember correctly the tuba was school property.

    SS loves to go to the gym.  We take him about 5 times a week and it is something he really enjoys.  I often go with him but I'm not much of a weight room girl so we each do our own thing.  I wish he was involved in something more social but this is the one activity he is pursuing outside of school right now, it’s something.  He and his cousin are good friends and 2 nights a month or so the boys will spend together at our house or at his cousin's house.

    He does mind his father most of the time.  He tries to bargain his way out of household responsibilities or delay them.  For the most part he does what is asked of him. 

     

    VOR said:

     He's been looking forward to go down there and always thinks the sun shines out of her ass when she is with him.  .

    And not once did you say this.  All I read is what a bad person and mom she is.  That gives no indication that HE doesn't agree.  Because if he did... why did he want to live with you all?

    Your DH basically has said "no" when he won't commit to sending his son to stay w/ his mother for the 8 weeks that YOU want. 

    Yes there are a lot of things I did not say regarding how SS feels.  My guess is he cautiously loves his mother.  He’s been let down by her a few times.  She told him the day before he came to live us that she was 4 weeks pregnant.  One time she said she couldn't fit a visit in because she had no time to pick him up from the airport.  He has asked for a simple gift for a birthday/xmas and she either says she can’t help out with the gift or pretends she didn't hear/remember him asking.  She does send gifts that she thinks he may want.  When he talks to her he sounds happy.  When he visits her he says it was a great time.  When she doesn't do what she said she would or is unable to make a visit work we see that he is hurt.  And why he chose to live with us SS never outright said to DH or me; I don’t think he should have to.  Everyone has respected his choice and thank God no one has berated him for it.

    The statements about just ME wanting 8 weeks and DH being a good father figure and sticking up for SS is totally off.   DH and I both said a longer visit would be ideal, to each other, not SS.  If you are getting good father figure or supportive parent idea from DH not nailing down a firm return date because he worries SS might be having an issue in FL that he might very well have here with us, then yeah maybe he is looking out for what bad MIGHT happen if we send him there period.  I don’t know why this one thing makes him the good father figure/ supportive parent.

    This summer visit has happened twice and this will be the third time.  The first time SS said he wanted to go to his mother’s for 4 weeks.  A little after 3 weeks he called and asked DH if he could change his flight and extend his stay by 2 weeks which he did.  Last year was the second time and the visit dates were determined completely by summer school dates.  SS had to attend a health summer class to meet an education requirement to graduate on time; this was a result of his transition from FL to NY and not poor grades.  SS had 3 weeks to visit his mother once summer school ended and before fall semester started.

    Neither I or DH have not told SS that I want him to have a longer visit so that I/we can get a break from him or focus on time alone with each other.  So everyone saying that he must feel unwanted/unwelcome/needed elsewhere can be at peace about that.  We also didn't tell him that we need TTC time if that is weighing heavily on anyone’s mind.  I also never speak ill of his mother to him, the most I have said is “Well I’m sorry that didn't work out the way you wanted.” SS had no preconception of the length of this visit and had no qualms when DH said “it looks like it will be around two months.”

    Thank you ilumine for your post.  I feel that you wonderfully explained the struggles that blended families are faced with and the gray areas of being a stepparent.
  • Ilumine said:
    I am the stepmother in a situation just like this. 

    And I honestly get sick and tired of being made out to be an Evil Disney Caricature because I want to parent my stepchild like I would my biological child. 

    That means that I should not be made out to be money grubbing or rocking the boat by demanding that the BIOLOGICAL MOTHER pays her share of the child support, just like my DH did when we did not have physical custody.  

    That means that I should not be made out to be a hunchbacked Richard III trying to hide my SS in the Tower of London because I want alone time with my husband. 

    For Christ's Sake - there are articles upon articles about how important Parent-Centered families are better than Children-Centered Families out there.  And I dare any one of you biological mothers to honestly tell me that you never ever want time away from your biological child(ren).  And that a week to a fortnight away from your teenagers doesn't sound heavenly. 

    Well guess what.  As a stepmother the pressure of parenting is even harder.  The second we come down on our stepchildren in any way, our motives are called into question.  Are we being Cinderella's Stepmother when ask our stepchildren to clean up after themselves or are we trying to instill, you know a work ethic.  

    Oh and do not forget the double standard that we stepparents are forced to live buy.  We are supposed to love our stepchildren like our own...but not.  We cannot take our stepdaughters to get their nails or hair done.  That's a biological mother's job.  We can play ball in our backyard, but if a stepfather wants to coach the little league team, WOAH now, that is the right of the Stepfather.  And god forbid the kids show us affection or calls us by a Paternal Name!  

    And watch out for favoritism. Just because affordable portable dvd players were not available in the mid 1990s, we should not provide one for the younger, half siblings.  That is not fair to the first set.  Just because BioMom doesn't believe in team sports and wouldn't allow the kids to play soccer, we should not allow our children to be on pee-wee soccer because it is not fair.  HOWEVER, if BioMom signs the step kids up for a sport that interferes with the Noncustodial parent's visitation time it is now OUR fault that the stepchild can't go to the game.  

    What lessons do stepchildren learn if we are not allowed to immediately correct a mouth teenager with a punishment, but are expected to wait till BioMommy or BioDaddy come home? Because at that point, the teacher and coaches and after school bosses get to have more control and demand more respect then the other adult providing a house and food and sundries to said child. 

    And let's talk about that house.  As a step-parent I am financially and legally obligated to cover anything that occurs while under our roof and our visitation time (that would be the royal, husband and I our). So if SS breaks a neighbors window, its my money that has to pay for it.  If SS brings drugs or alcohol into my house and gets busted, I am legally responsible.  And god forbid if someone gets hurt.   All the while I have no way to force my husband to parent our Stepchildren in a way that I deem that is appropriate. 

    So when I go to my husband and tell him that he either demands that SS's Biological mother starts paying child support or he will cover the increased expenses on his own that is not me being unloving towards my SS.  That is me protecting myself. 

    And I do not want to hear that bullshit about the OP knowing what she was getting into.  Because the BioMother knew what she was getting into when she got pregnant, had the child and raised said SS to the point she could no longer handle him.  

    Just like all the deadbeat father's out there, deadbeat mothers should be held accountable.  And asking her husband to hold his ex-wife accountable for their son does not make the OP The Evil Queen.  It makes her just like any Biological Mother who demands those same things from her ex-husband.  

    Look, I am not saying that all Stepmothers are pure at heart or that all stepchildren are whiny brats.  If anything, I do believe that there should be some extra consideration taken when making life long plans.  But dammit, I do not believe that Stepparents should not be allowed to have the same feelings as biological parents.  God knows I am counting down to next summer where I can send my daughter to my mother for Nana camp.  





    I am not a step mom and don't deal with a blended family, but I think you have an amazing post about the truth for what it is like for step parents.

     

    OP, it's normal to want space away from the child or children every now and then....biological OR step children.

    And, parenting, whether biological or step, DOES include the Budgeting. Just go over to the MM Board; there is a whole post about a baby budget. So, why can a couple plan financially and raise questions about money for a biological child, but a step child isn't fair and has to be hands-off? Why not the same standards?

    I disagree with PPs. I think that the OP has every good sense to ask about the mom paying some kind of support IF joint custody is involved. If the OP and her DH have full/sole custody of the son, then no financial support.

     

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    Illumine- I appreciate what you wrote and it's food for thought.  Thank you for your perspective.

    The ONLY thing I'm going to nitpick - yes, I want time away from my son sometimes.  But, that usually means a night out, or maybe a weekend.  I can't fathom actively wanting to send him away for 8 weeks. 

    And I do fully agree- I do think the expectation that you must love this child like your own is unfair and perhaps even unrealistic.  But I will still contend that the CHILD shouldn't be made to feel that they aren't loved.  I too am a stepchild and while things are now, as an adult, good w/ my stepmother, when I was a kid?  Not so much.  I felt very much like baggage that she had to take on in order to be with my dad.  (And for the record, I lived with them full time.  I only saw my mom over the summer.)
  • @VOR I'm not going to disagree with your PP, it's what you do with your kid(s) and how you feel, there's nothing to debate really.  But if your son ever tells you at umpteen years old he wants to go away for a month or more and you tell him "no, I can't fathom being away from you for that long" I'd feel bad for both of you.  My SS is less than 13 months away from becoming a legal adult and going off to college.  We are both summer babies and the summer I was turning 17 (just like he will be in two weeks) I went to live/work 4 hours away from home for the entire summer.  Thank goodness my mom wasn't a total helicopter parent or that would have never worked.  I think everyone involved is beyond being unable to "fathom" actively choosing to be apart from from SS for months at a time; we've already done it.  SS has lived with us 11 months out of the year for almost 3 years and before that it was with his mother 11 months out of the year.  And yeah maybe that's sad for him that there was this huge change, but that is what happened and we can't change that.  He LIVES with us and we aren't shuffling him around like he's got nowhere to live.  We're not shipping him off to boarding school for his senior year, just to his mother's for a relatively short visit considering the past.

  • You are twisting this. He is not 'asking' to go away for a month. You are 'sending' him away for a month. Away from his home. Because you don't want him there. 
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  • I feel really bad for the kid in this situation.  People are sending him away so they can be less inconvenienced.  What about what HE wants to do, and where HE wants to go?  Surely he's old enough that his opinion should be considered.

    And honestly, do you really not think that the kid senses he's not wanted?

    Shame on you.
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    Illumine- I appreciate what you wrote and it's food for thought.  Thank you for your perspective.

    The ONLY thing I'm going to nitpick - yes, I want time away from my son sometimes.  But, that usually means a night out, or maybe a weekend.  I can't fathom actively wanting to send him away for 8 weeks. 

    And I do fully agree- I do think the expectation that you must love this child like your own is unfair and perhaps even unrealistic.  But I will still contend that the CHILD shouldn't be made to feel that they aren't loved.  I too am a stepchild and while things are now, as an adult, good w/ my stepmother, when I was a kid?  Not so much.  I felt very much like baggage that she had to take on in order to be with my dad.  (And for the record, I lived with them full time.  I only saw my mom over the summer.)
    First and foremost, asking that a child stay with his other parent is not saying that you do not love your child.  

    But If being separated from a parent is SO detrimental to the child's psyche and automatically means that the other parent doesn't love them, then every child from every divorce is a walking basket case.  

    When you left your mother's house at the end of your summer visitation did you automatically assume that your mother did not love you when she  sent you back to your father?  Did you think your father was abandoning you when you went to your mother's over the summer?  

    So unless the OP runs around jumping for joy and exclaiming to her SS that she is desirously happy that he is leaving for more than the normal amount of visitation time, how is HE going to be affected any differently then going to his mother's for just 2 weeks?  

    Look, there are posts upon posts here (the Nest and Bump) about bioparents (mostly mothers) wanting to know why their exes won't take their visitation.  Sure, its mostly about wanting the CHILD(REN) to have their other parent be an active part of their lives.  But it is ALSO about wanting the other parent to SEE what it is like to really parent, not Disney Parent their child(ren).  

    Why do they get to get the IVY's but the stepparent who wants the exact same thing get's beaten up for it. 

    In THIS particular Original Post.  This OP is not the stepmother who is burdened with a sweet stepchild in order to stay married to a perfect father.  This is an OP, whose husband has made crap decisions that directly affect her (lying to the boy? expecting her to pick up the financial slack because he is to weak to enforce the other parent's monetary responsibilities? being a lazy, crap parent to a teenager who most certainly needs structure, rules, expectations - you know all of those things that intact children are forced to have without guilt trips?) 

    Instead of immediately jumping all over her for doing the best in the situation she was forced to take (again, yes she knew she was marrying someone with kids, but I am betting you that she did NOT expect the lies and disrespect) 
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  • You are twisting this. He is not 'asking' to go away for a month. You are 'sending' him away for a month. Away from his home. Because you don't want him there. 
    Actually, she is just extending her SS's visitation from 2 weeks to 4 weeks.   
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    You are twisting this. He is not 'asking' to go away for a month. You are 'sending' him away for a month. Away from his home. Because you don't want him there. 
    I'm the one twisting this?!  This is the most ridiculous response yet.  How dare you assume to know what my stepson is or isn't asking for as if you know.  I know you said you could be this kid but the reality is you are not.

    @CallMeShoes and everyone else saying that I am 'sending' him away.  I've made it clear in previous posts that this VISIT is important to him.  Read what I wrote before criticising me on what he wants.  
    "Sending him away" has been brought up repeatedly and the effects that this is going to have on SS.  This is VISITATION and it's TEMPORARY.  It's what happens when parents aren't together anymore.  The fact that it is even happening at all shows that his mother hasn't cut him out of her life completely.

    Ilumine said:
    First and foremost, asking that a child stay with his other parent is not saying that you do not love your child.  

    But If being separated from a parent is SO detrimental to the child's psyche and automatically means that the other parent doesn't love them, then every child from every divorce is a walking basket case.  

    Agreed. 
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    I'm going to throw out the white flag here.  I know I made assumptions and perhaps unfairly villified you.

    Here's the thing about these forums - people WILL read tone into what you write and will make assumptions based on that, often more so than what you actually write. 

    I know that I personally read a tone of "bio-mom is a deadbeat and I don't like her.  To force her to do her share, I want to send my SS to her for longer than planned regardless of what he or his dad want to do". 

    Now, in your subsequent updates, that's not the full picture.  Your SS WANTS to go stay with her, he thinks she's great, your DH is more on the same page as you than *I* first thought.  Granted, it's hard to give the full picture to any situation.

    But again- the way your OP read, it's not entirely in line w/ what your updates are telling us.  And sometimes it's really hard to get out from under an OP that makes people get up in arms. 
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