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Situation not good. Update from me

edited July 2014 in Family Matters
What I've got on my hands is a real mess.

I am still waiting for the case to be resolved. And I am having a ton of problems with Bro and the GF.

To anybody tuning in just now, I have a legal issue against Bro and he's not happy about it. The GF that lives with him isn't either and I have them both chiming in like a couple of middle schoolers.

You can see and feel the tension when they are together --- they know the end is coming and they are nothing but divisive toward me. Gee, wonder why?

There was a huge blow up here on Sunday; it won't be until end of August sometime until the case is settled and done.  Don't ask what the scene between them and me was like.

We were supposed to have a hearing start of July; Bro called in sick to that meeting. 

He was not ill. I know that for a fact. I saw him leaving about 2 hours before the meeting time and he was loading his car with tennis eqiipment. So "quite ill"  means you are getting ready for a tennis date?  Dagnabit and $U&%#!!

That meeting was rescheduled for this past Tuesday but it didn't go down...somehow Bro's atty didn't give Bro the date. So now it's another 3 week wait for the next date.

I have been pushing to get an earlier date for the meeting. I have not yet heard back anything.

Personally, I say Bro is stalling and the atty he has purposely fudged up giving Bro the date to be there. Just my opinion.

My only recourse in the interim until the case is over is to avoid them both --- duck out of the way when I see them coming and when they are gone, it's all clear, I guess.  I have Bro threatening to call the cops --- what am I supposed to do? Say something else -- and he calls? it's like they are trying to manipulate me or use scare tactics.

What a mess. It's a lot of pressure plus there are also things happening in my own life that I am trying to resolve -- and I had GF tell me "you do nothing all day." Really? I am trying to  run a self run business: that is one of the problems of my own I am having. Anybody knows the economy sucks and it's even rougher for us self employed people.

MYOMFB and shut UP. That is what I felt like saying to her in reply to that comment but I did not. I blew sky high; as it is, I have been holding my tongue and wow, how much of that am I supposed to do?

The pressure is just awful.  I do not have very many people to talk to about this; a couple of friends know what's going on but that's about it. 

I do not want to sleep with one eye open but I am going to stay diligent; you never know with some people. The 2 of them are madder than unholy hell and I do not trust either one of them.

The situation is bad and it's deteriorating. Thanks for listening.

Re: Situation not good. Update from me

  • Sorry for your crappy situation. What happens if your brother keeps avoiding the scheduled hearings? Can anything move forward if he doesn't show? I wouldn't be able to keep my cool either.

    Not sure it will make you feel any better but I have a super shitty family, two of whom are acting like crazy people right now too. At least I am on the other side of the country. I couldn't imagine living right underneath them. Just do your best to keep calm and wait it out.
  • spikeinc said:
    Sorry for your crappy situation. What happens if your brother keeps avoiding the scheduled hearings? Can anything move forward if he doesn't show? I wouldn't be able to keep my cool either.

    Then it would go to a judge and this is what I do not want.

    I feel like crying and not stopping.

    Why isn't a hearing like jury duty or a court appearance? You were told to show up on a certain date at X time: you are to be there no questions asked --- yes, it should proceed like a default but it's not going to work that way.

    Not sure it will make you feel any better but I have a super shitty family, two of whom are acting like crazy people right now too. At least I am on the other side of the country. I couldn't imagine living right underneath them. Just do your best to keep calm and wait it out.
    My problem is I was always too nice to the people who needed a kick in the junk and then in the head.

    I also want him gone because I am trying to end the codependency. I cannot have him here for good.

    He has been a problem for years and years. My mother needed to nip this in the bud when it began but she didn't do it. 
  • Ugh. What do you think will happen if it goes to a judge? Why is that something you don't want? do you think the judge might rule in his favor? I am trying to recall exactly the circumstances but I think it is that you want him out because he didn't pay what he owes and that if it goes to a judge then he might just force you both to sell and you would have to move which you can't really afford? Is that right or is my memory completely off?
  • spikeinc said:
    Ugh. What do you think will happen if it goes to a judge? Why is that something you don't want? do you think the judge might rule in his favor? I am trying to recall exactly the circumstances but I think it is that you want him out because he didn't pay what he owes and that if it goes to a judge then he might just force you both to sell and you would have to move which you can't really afford? Is that right or is my memory completely off?
    That is it. There would be a force sale of this home.

    He has forfeitted the meeting once; illness was the first time ad as I said, the date got lost in translation by his team for the second.

    This is a mess.

    And it just would not be "sell the house" -- the  money would go into escrow and we would have to duke it out uurselves what damages are owed.

    The housing market here stinks. There are houses in prime areas that are sitting on the market with no sale.

    What a mess all of this is.

    Plus it's the strain of what is happening with those 2 --- I can't seem to catch a break. He threatens to call the cops if I even ask a question. He screams at me that I am harassing him. "Don't open your mouth or I'll call the cops on you...."

    What sense does this make? What sense does any of this make? I have her jumping onto the band wagon and chiming in with the threats to call the police, have her chiming in with nasty remarks he is making ---- is this a good way to be?

    (On Sunday after that scene took place,  I decided to just lie low when I see them coming and let them come and go. I think staying low is really my only alternative because you know what you say or what you ask is going to be worth shit)

    Meanwhile, she's got a tween living with them and that kid can hear and see the whole mess that her mother and her mother's boyfriend are saying and doing. This really is pretty sad.

    Duck out of the way and avoid them both?  Great, but I have to force myself to live like this in what is my own home. It's like I can't go and come as I please, you know?

    He has continually been a problem. Several years ago he tried to take a second mortgage out on this house, without me knowing about it. Claimed he needed the money for paying off debts; he wanted a very large sum of money --- naturally, he was not going to be able to do that, since there are 2 people in ownership. They ran a title search, found out there were 2 owners and that was the end of his plans.

    In the meanwhile, his behavior was horrible. He tried to threaten me and coerce me and he tried to scare me with "oh, I'm getting a loan and nothing you can do about it. I went to a lending tree dot com" and he stood there and laughed. If he wasn't laughing, he was making a scene by arguing.

    When he was trying to do this, I called a college friend of mine who is an attorney. She told me not to worry since there would be a title search and the whole thing would be for naught. But wow --- this is the behavior I am getting from a grown person, not a kid.


  • Honestly from my perspective, I think that you might end up happiest with the forced sale. Forget what he owes you at that point and split what is in escrow evenly. Will you take great loss, yes, but your sanity once you are away from those two sounds worth any price. It doesn't sound like like they would move or pay you even if you got them to a hearing. Then you would be In the same position with no payment but trying to get them forcibly evicted and that sounds impossible. Though it isn't a great option, I saw cut your losses and run from these two as fast as you can. Obviously easier said than done. I know I have a hard time letting go when I feel I have been treated so unfairly especially with family even though my head is telling me I am better off never speaking to them ever again.
  • spikeinc said:
    Honestly from my perspective, I think that you might end up happiest with the forced sale. Forget what he owes you at that point and split what is in escrow evenly. Will you take great loss, yes, but your sanity once you are away from those two sounds worth any price. It doesn't sound like like they would move or pay you even if you got them to a hearing. Then you would be In the same position with no payment but trying to get them forcibly evicted and that sounds impossible. Though it isn't a great option, I saw cut your losses and run from these two as fast as you can. Obviously easier said than done. I know I have a hard time letting go when I feel I have been treated so unfairly especially with family even though my head is telling me I am better off never speaking to them ever again.
    He has means to pay for the damages he is incurred so yes, I am guaranteed payment.

    This is a gigantic mess and I should have done something about him years ago, after my mother was gone.
  • Sounds like a gigantic mess. So, to be clear, if he has the means to pay and it is court ordered but he refuses what happens then? I guess I am not understanding how he will be forced to give you your fair share if he just decides to be the ass he is and not pay.
  • If I were in your position, anytime I would see him coming I would pull out my phone and start the video recorder so that you have evidence of who is saying what. You may want to check with your atty though to see if you have to advise him that he is being recorded. This way if bro does call the cops you have evidence of what did or didn't happen.
  • spikeinc said:
    Sounds like a gigantic mess. So, to be clear, if he has the means to pay and it is court ordered but he refuses what happens then? I guess I am not understanding how he will be forced to give you your fair share if he just decides to be the ass he is and not pay.
    He's got a little piece of property some uncle left him.  That piece of property is still in the lurch because he and another cousin are the heirs to it; it hasn't been soldl he and the cousin have to wait until it is sold before they both get the proceeds from the sale.--- I will get a share of that piece of land he owes as his payment for the damages.
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