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UPDATE: Would you contact the teacher?

amyjoy18amyjoy18 member
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edited October 2014 in Pittsburgh Nesties
Since the beginning of the school year, DD has been frequently been getting a yellow behavior status (I think most of you are familiar with the color chart system).  It's always been for talking when she should have been quiet--which didn't surprise me because DD is a chatterbox. 

Recently though, she's gotten yellow marks for: talking back to the teacher; writing on the desk, and an orange one for not keeping her hands to herself.  These aren't things I would have expected of her.  When I talked to her about it I can tell she's getting frustrated with the amount of waiting she's required to do at school and she's getting upset with all the yellow marks.  According to her, most times when she's gotten a yellow mark it's spurred by her having to wait for everyone to finish their work.  In the talking back to the teacher incident, the teacher told her to read the book again, and DD replied with, "I already read it 4 times, and it's not even a real book.  It doesn't actually tell a story, It's just the same words over and over again."

In the beginning of the year we talked about turning her paper over and writing/drawing on the back of it, which she does.  Every single paper she brings home has an elaborate drawing on the back and additional practice of whatever was done on the front.  I told her she can do her work more slowly to make sure her letters are more neat or ask the teacher for another worksheet and do it twice (she said her teacher won't give her one).

I know she needs to learn to sit and wait quietly--but I don't know what else to tell her to help her do that.  I'm curious about how often and for how long she's being asked to sit and wait -judging by the drawings on the back of her paper I'm thinking it's a substantial amount of time-and I want to help her learn to use her time more wisely. 

 I also know that there is value in the repetitiveness of the work they're doing, but how do you get a 5 year old to see the value in it and not get frustrated by doing the same thing over and over after they already feel like they "got it".

UPDATE:

I did reach out to Brinley's teacher.  She didn't seem to be concerned with the number of yellow marks.  She did say that Brinley does finish her work earlier than the rest of the class and is required to wait a few minutes for others to finish up, at which time she's permitted to drawn on the back of the paper (which I knew).  She said it typically takes kindergarteners the first full 9 weeks of school to adjust, so her recommendation is for us to keep an eye on it and discuss at parent teacher conferences on Nov. 7th.

I kind of felt the answer was a cop out, but November 7th is only a few weeks away--so we can discuss it more in person.


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Re: UPDATE: Would you contact the teacher?

  • amyjoy18amyjoy18 member
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    edited October 2014
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  • YES! Talk to the teacher.  I think you will feel better having discussed this stuff with her, EJ is also a chatter when she finishes her work before the other kids. But it is disruptive to those kids who need more time. it isn't something you can fix by telling B to be more patient, but her teacher should be trying to provide some extra stimulation for B while she waits. I am sure it is difficult for her too, trying to manage a classroom of kids at different levels.  but in any case, talk to her!
  • I would definitely contact the teacher.  Keefer was having some trouble in school and we got a note from the teacher saying he was being silly and not keeping his hands to himself.  It helped so much when I was able to get on the phone with her and talk though the issues and work together to figure out what we need to do to try to make things better.  Hopefully the teacher is helpful and will work with you to find a compromise.  Maybe she will be allowed to have a separate book or workbook that she can take out to work on while the other kids finish up even if it's one that you provide.     

     
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  • I would definitely reach out to the teacher...maybe the teacher doesn't see the work on the back of the sheets she's doing to notice how much time B seems to have to wait for everyone to finish.  I like Abbey's suggestion of seeing if you can keep an entire workbook there, that way she can continue to work at her own pace. 
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  • Yes, talk to the teacher. The last thing you want is a frustrated and unhappy kindergartener. There have to be things she can do to stay engaged - extra work, drawing, reading harder books. In first grade, Heather was allowed to keep a chapter book at her desk to read when she was done with her work. And her teacher this year lets her help other students who are struggling when she's done.
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  • Luckystar2Luckystar2 member
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    Definitely talk to teacher! I get repetitiveness but she should be allowed to get another book and not have to keep reading the same one over and over and over if she has extra time. I would ask for the teacher's side of the story first. Dd often misinterprets things especially with why she got in trouble so I would want to know if that's really what happened. If so I would ask about what the teacher can do to help. I would expect that she could have open access to more books. Dd's room they each have a book box with books for them as well as tons of other books in the room. Does her room have tablets? Our room is fortunate that all the kids have tablets. They use them for Raz kids reading and xtra math. If dd had extra time I would want the teacher to encourage her to do those.

    What's her reading level? If she is reading a book 4 times while others are reading once then maybe she needs to be reading something more challenging.

    My dd has gotten in trouble for being a chatterbox but not because she is done with her work early! Sounds like a good problem and the teacher needs to work on giving her appropriate work
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  • Ditto the others on contacting the teacher.  I've contacted Mason's teacher a few times, and she is always super responsive.  It is also really helpful to hear the teacher's perspective compared to your child's...if your DD is reading a book 4 times and doing extra work, that seems like too much time to be giving students to complete one task, even for those who might take longer. 
  • Yep - see if there are other programs that she can go to for those that are progressing at a faster pace.  You have to advocate for her, get her more work otherwise, its not fair to discipline her for being bored. 
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  • I will definitely contact the teacher.  I didn't want to come off as the parent who thinks my kid is too smart for her class, but she's never been one to get in trouble a lot at school (preschool/daycare) and I can tell it's bothering her. 

    DD's statement was accurate (albeit rude and disrespectful), the book--wasn't actually a book.  It was a few printed sheets of paper with a picture and the words "I like the" and then a picture of something (not the word and a pic, just a pic) on every page. 

    I like the ball
    I like the dog
    etc. 

    The week prior they had one that was exactly the same, but with a different picture. 
    I like the fish
    I like the octopus
    etc. 

    Luckystar2--I also agree with you about getting the teacher's side of the story.  DD tells a lot of stories about school that I KNOW aren't true.  She'll come clean about it after the fact.  But I think in the instances of the yellow marks she knows to tell the real truth, but she could have misinterpreted something. 

    According to DD she says she's waiting FOREVER, "all I do is wait wait wait--it's so boring".  In actuality I have no idea if that's 2 minutes or 10.
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  • Did they do assessments prior to school or during the beginning of school? It sounds like she is just ahead of the majority. The book she was reading would be what I would expect at that age but if she doesn't think its hard enough then she may be well beyond. Maybe the teacher just doesn't realize it? It's still early in the year and maybe the teacher is just missing this. I think it's certainly a good idea to talk with the teacher. It stinks to have a kid that's ahead be bored by not getting appropriate work.

    I will say dd's teacher says he assigns books that are slightly below their reading level for homework because he wants them practicing and be encouraged rather than struggle at home (although he doesn't do that in class time) I guess that could be the case here? Maybe there are times he assigns easier books for repetition and encouraging them but this sounds well below your dd's level.

    I think I would just approach it as being concerned about the yellow marks and hearing teacher's side. Then go from there about how it sounds like it's stemming from dd being bored, etc. I don't think you'd sound like "that" parent!
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  • I am also in the contact the teacher camp.  I would be respectful and courteous of course, not that I think you would be anything else, but make sure you ask for the teacher's take, too.   (My sis is an 8th grade teacher and nothing makes her go on the defensive like feeling accused or not believed.  It is amazing how many ppl will believe their 8th grade "sweetheart's" story without even considering that the teacher may have another side!) 

    Hopefully the teacher will be able to work with you and come up with a plan to help your DD succeed.  But, even if not, hopefully getting to the bottom of it, especially if she really is getting done with her work early, will help in future placement groups! 
  • amyjoy18 said:
    I will definitely contact the teacher.  I didn't want to come off as the parent who thinks my kid is too smart for her class, but she's never been one to get in trouble a lot at school (preschool/daycare) and I can tell it's bothering her. 

    According to DD she says she's waiting FOREVER, "all I do is wait wait wait--it's so boring".  In actuality I have no idea if that's 2 minutes or 10.
    Two things - (1) don't underestimate how smart your kid might be, you'll only know if you push for her.  ANd don't ever be afraid to be "that mom", "that mom" is doing the best for her kid! I asked for extra work for Caileigh last year and different spelling tests b/c the ones they were giving were too easy & the teacher was happy to do it.  I was surprised no other parent asked b/c there are alot of smart kids in her class that were probably really bored. 

    (2) #1 frustration in school is down time & boredom.  I always say if I could do it I would homeschool & teach my kids in 3 hours what they do in 8 in school & then take them places to show them how what they learn factors into our lives.  [sigh!].  Anyway, yes they have to learn how to overcome boredom but there's no reason she can't have extra work to do.

    And I agree that's not a book - Keira has the same papers!  Sight word recognition.....

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