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Mixed up feelings

Sorry this is going to be long....Ive been having all these mixed feelings for the past year. My husband and I have been married for 2.5 years but together for 12 years. For the past year I have been questioning my marriage. He is bipolar so tends to get very angry and has a difficult time keeping a job and his anger under control.He has never physically hurt me but I feel has verbally. I tend to feel more like a mom then a wife. He doesnt get a long with my family. This month we bought our first house, which I was hoping would help ease our relationship since we were living with my mom and that was causing tension, but then he got layed off from his job causing more issues.
Anyway on top of all this uncertainly with my marriage. I have a family friend whom I have recently reconnected with. When I was 13 years old, he gave me my first kiss but lived in another state at the time. When we would see each other, we would hang out and kiss but never dated due to distance. Anyway he ended up getting a girl pregnant and then marrying her. I had to sit through his wedding, in fact my mom married them. It was very difficult for me cuz I had feelings for him. I ended up avoiding him as much as I could. He is now divorced and dating another. I saw him for the first time in probably 10 yrs last yr. I had a dream the night before I saw him that he pulled me on the beach and told me he always had feelings for me and kissed me. We talked and reconnected last august and added him on facebook. It was here now 13 yrs later. He told me he had feelings for me and I married the wrong person. I knew that I always had these feelings for him, in fact I wanted him to come to my wedding to feel how I felt at his. but I never knew he felt this way about me. We've been talking a lot this yr and he ended up coming and staying at my moms house last january for a week, where once again he told me he loved me and always has, and always felt like I was his other half.  My feelings are very strong for him as well. As much as I try I cannot get him out of my mind. He tells my friends that he would leave his gf in a heartbeat for me, but when I ask him he tells me he does not know. I would def. not break up my marriage just for this guy, I know that the grass is not always greener on the other side. I would spend some time single.He was in town helping me remodel my bathroom this week and we all went out for my birthday. I hardly saw my husband the whole night. All my friends told me they have never seen me so happy and lite up as I was with this guy with my husband. I am so confused as to what to do. I love my husband but I am unsure if I am still in love with him. I also love this other person but am afraid of ruining a friendship. I feel as though our feelings are just too strong and I do not want to regret. I just feel like I have a connection with this other guy that I have never really had with my husband.
My husband sees it to and we have had a lot of talks recently. He tells me he just wants me to be happy, even if it is not with him. He has started taking medicine for his bipolar and he is truelly trying to change for me, I just dont know if its enough anymore. Its always the same things over and over that we fight about or I am unhappy about.I want to be fair to my husband and I know right now I am emotionally cheating on him. We talked about going to therapy, I Just dnt know that I still see a future with him. Anyway just looking for some words of encouragement, or if anyone else has been in the same situation. Thanks for your help.

Re: Mixed up feelings

  • If you're not in love w/ your DH and don't want to be married, then leave your DH.

    But yeah... do NOT go running to this guy.  You need a LOT of time alone. A lot. 

    And really - maybe I'm just not a romantic, but I really side-eye this whole "we LOVE each other" even though, in reality, you hardly know each other.  Re connecting on FB and seeing each other for a day here and there... you DON'T know him.  And he doesn't KNOW you. 

    And I'm trying to make sense of th etime line.  you first kissed when you were 13.  You comment about it "now being 13 years later".  And you've been with your DH for 12 years???  So, you're 26 and you've seen with your DH since you were 14??

    Maybe you can clarify this a bit.

    But really- I think you're over romanticizing who this guy was/is in your life. 
  • Sorry this is going to be long....Ive been having all these mixed feelings for the past year. My husband and I have been married for 2.5 years but together for 12 years. For the past year I have been questioning my marriage. He is bipolar so tends to get very angry and has a difficult time keeping a job and his anger under control.He has never physically hurt me but I feel has verbally. I tend to feel more like a mom then a wife. He doesnt get a long with my family. This month we bought our first house, If you were questioning your marriage, you shouldn't have bought property with him.  You could have rented.  Water under the bridge now. which I was hoping would help ease our relationship since we were living with my mom and that was causing tension, but then he got layed off from his job causing more issues.

    Anyway on top of all this uncertainly with my marriage. I have a family friend whom I have recently reconnected with. When I was 13 years old, he gave me my first kiss but lived in another state at the time. When we would see each other, we would hang out and kiss but never dated due to distance. Anyway he ended up getting a girl pregnant and then marrying her. I had to sit through his wedding, in fact my mom married them. It was very difficult for me cuz I had feelings for him. I ended up avoiding him as much as I could. He is now divorced and dating another. I saw him for the first time in probably 10 yrs last yr. I had a dream the night before I saw him that he pulled me on the beach and told me he always had feelings for me and kissed me. We talked and reconnected last august and added him on facebook. It was here now 13 yrs later. He told me he had feelings for me and I married the wrong person. I knew that I always had these feelings for him, in fact I wanted him to come to my wedding to feel how I felt at his. Oh wow.  If you still felt the need for vengeance, then you still have strong feelings for this man and never should have married  your husband. but I never knew he felt this way about me. We've been talking a lot this yr and he ended up coming and staying at my moms house last january for a week, where once again he told me he loved me and always has, and always felt like I was his other half.  My feelings are very strong for him as well. As much as I try I cannot get him out of my mind. He tells my friends that he would leave his gf in a heartbeat for me, but when I ask him he tells me he does not know.  You need to stop communicating with him ASAP.  You are still married and with your husband and carrying on a completely inappropriate relationship that is disrespectful to your husband.  I would def. not break up my marriage just for this guy, I know that the grass is not always greener on the other. side. I would spend some time single.He was in town helping me remodel my bathroom this week and we all went out for my birthday. I hardly saw my husband the whole night. All my friends told me they have never seen me so happy and lite up as I was with this guy with my husband. I am so confused as to what to do. I love my husband but I am unsure if I am still in love with him. I also love this other person but am afraid of ruining a friendship. I feel as though our feelings are just too strong and I do not want to regret. I just feel like I have a connection with this other guy that I have never really had with my husband.
    My husband sees it to and we have had a lot of talks recently. He tells me he just wants me to be happy, even if it is not with him. He has started taking medicine for his bipolar and he is truelly trying to change for me, I just dont know if its enough anymore. Its always the same things over and over that we fight about or I am unhappy about.I want to be fair to my husband and I know right now I am emotionally cheating on him. We talked about going to therapy, I Just dnt know that I still see a future with him. Anyway just looking for some words of encouragement, or if anyone else has been in the same situation. Thanks for your help.
    I agree that you are romanticizing this guy.  You're making into something he's not and acting like a 10 year old girl with a crush.  You're an adult who is married and you should act like it.  You don't love your husband?  You don't like how he treats you?  Fine, then divorce him, but don't put him in this unfair position he's in now.
  • edited November 2014
    Sorry this is going to be long....Ive been having all these mixed feelings for the past year. My husband and I have been married for 2.5 years but together for 12 years. For the past year I have been questioning my marriage. He is bipolar so tends to get very angry and has a difficult time keeping a job and his anger under control.He has never physically hurt me but I feel has verbally. I tend to feel more like a mom then a wife. He doesnt get a long with my family. This month we bought our first house, which I was hoping would help ease our relationship since we were living with my mom and that was causing tension, but then he got layed off from his job causing more issues.

    All of these are issues you need to sort out with your H. And seeing a counselor on your own would be a good idea, too --- bounce all of this off him or her.

    So far, none of this bodes well for you or your marriage. Yes, he has a chronic illness but why should you have to put up with being spoken to like dirt?

    I am not sure if the abuse is "part of his illness" or has always been there or if this is a new thing. Whatever it was "caused" by, there's no requirement for you to stay with a guy who verbally abuses you and there is no excuse for him to verbally abuse you.

    He needs anger management, stat. Before his abuse gets him in trouble with somebodey else. There is a potentail for that to happen -- and there is also the potential this can turn physical.

    Anyway on top of all this uncertainly with my marriage. I have a family friend whom I have recently reconnected with.

    Right now, drop the guy and end all contact with him. This can't come to a good end. Your "Friend" is not your friend.

    And if and when you do divorce and it is time for you to start dating, choose no man with baggage and a past rocky marriage:


     When I was 13 years old, he gave me my first kiss but lived in another state at the time. When we would see each other, we would hang out and kiss but never dated due to distance.

    You'd hang out and kiss? And that's all. Gee, I can see you were notoriously fussy back then about your boyfriends.

    Not to mention if I was your mother and I found out this kind of thing was going on, boy would you have had the devil to pay. Your ass would have been in big trouble with me.

    Way too young for this kind of behavior. Methinks she never kept a close eye on you at all.

    Anyway he ended up getting a girl pregnant and then marrying her.

    He's not very smart. I guess he didn't know what a condom was.:( Nor did she. She's not too smart. Perhaps based on that they belonged to gether; they had something in common.

     I had to sit through his wedding, in fact my mom married them. It was very difficult for me cuz I had feelings for him. I ended up avoiding him as much as I could. He is now divorced and dating another. I saw him for the first time in probably 10 yrs last yr. I had a dream the night before I saw him that he pulled me on the beach and told me he always had feelings for me and kissed me.

    We talked and reconnected last august and added him on facebook.

    He is bad news: get rid of him.

    It was here now 13 yrs later. He told me he had feelings for me and I married the wrong person. I knew that I always had these feelings for him, in fact I wanted him to come to my wedding to feel how I felt at his. but I never knew he felt this way about me.

    Excuse me? This is a vengeance thing?

    If you felt that way about this 8th grade boyfriend -- and really, it waasn't even a boyfriend, judging by what you told us --- you never should have gotten married to your H. How unfair to him.

    And I am sure if your H finds out about this, he'll be gone in a flash, anyway, so you'll have your work cut out for ya.

    We've been talking a lot this yr and he ended up coming and staying at my moms house last january for a week, where once again he told me he loved me and always has, and always felt like I was his other half.  My feelings are very strong for him as well.

    As I said: Drop out of sight as far as this guy is concerned. This isn't the time or the place and what this is now is cheating on your H -- this is an inappropriate relationship.

    How would you feel if you found out your H was doing this?

    Tell this guy you do not wish to jeopardize your marriage and you will no longer in contact with him. And then END the contact with him.

    That is all you have to say -- and then make sure he has no way of contacting you again. Hoping he hasn't got your snail mail addy or your landline number, if you still have a landline.

    And if he contacts your mother she is NOT to reply to him. Tell her that.


    As much as I try I cannot get him out of my mind. He tells my friends that he would leave his gf in a heartbeat for me, but when I ask him he tells me he does not know.

    Excuse me but this gentleman you have your eye on is not a gentleman at all.

    he is PLAYING you! he's using you for attention and YES if he was so interested in ANY other single woman he'd break it off with a girlfriend in a flash.

    You are not very smart or very grown up if you become party to his bullshit.

    Drop him and do not contact him again. And don't play the fool for anybody anywhere because that is what you are doing. He's playing games with you and you're happily going along for the ride. Be above this mess and value yourself. Not this prize bum.


    I would def. not break up my marriage just for this guy, I know that the grass is not always greener on the other side. I would spend some time single.He was in town helping me remodel my bathroom this week and we all went out for my birthday. I hardly saw my husband the whole night.

    Your H was in on this thing, too? Wow...he's even nuttier than you are. You don't think he's not going to pick up on what's going on??? Maybe that's what you are looking to accomplish.

    Shit -- right now, get rid of this bum. End it immediately.

    All my friends told me they have never seen me so happy and lite up as I was with this guy with my husband.


    And you spent time with this jerk.

    WHY???


    I am so confused as to what to do. I love my husband but I am unsure if I am still in love with him. I also love this other person but am afraid of ruining a friendship.

    Excuse me? A FRIENDSHIP???

    This is no friend. This guy is using you, as I said.

    And no decent man goes after a married woman, no matter what the status of her marriage is. He's a bum, as I said. And one with lots of baggage. I'll bet he's a shitty father, too. A decent man stays away from married women.


     I feel as though our feelings are just too strong and I do not want to regret. I just feel like I have a connection with this other guy that I have never really had with my husband.

    That's because you are having problems with your marriage. As I said: get rid of this "friend" of yours.


    My husband sees it to and we have had a lot of talks recently. He tells me he just wants me to be happy, even if it is not with him. He has started taking medicine for his bipolar and he is truly trying to change for me, I just dont know if its enough anymore.

    I am willing to bet that you are very young -- been together 12 years? I'll bet that makes you about 25 or a tad younger --- am I right??? You sound very young; I am going by the context of the content of your post.

    Its always the same things over and over that we fight about or I am unhappy about.

    Based on this, you probably never should have married him --- no couple should be fighting a lot 21/2 years into a marriage. As I said, the relationship may have been over long ago, prior to your marriage and you married him because "it's what comes next" or because it was the thing to do.

    And really, nobody pines away over a silly and stupid little 8th grade relationship. Maybe you need counseling just for that alone. It's like you're frozen in the year 2000 somewhere and never grew up.

    I want to be fair to my husband and I know right now I am emotionally cheating on him. We talked about going to therapy, I Just dnt know that I still see a future with him. Anyway just looking for some words of encouragement, or if anyone else has been in the same situation. Thanks for your help.
    What you need to do:

    Sit down with your H and tell him how you feel. Maybe this relationship was long over and you and he got married because it was the next thing and the "right" thing to do.

    For the verbal abuse alone, I'd leave. As I said, he's got a chronic illness --- but that doesn't give him carte blanche to treat you like trash.

    He needs anger management -- I don't know if you are interested in sticking around long enough to see if and when he improves, or if you are equally interested on walking on all t he eggs you can find hoping he doesn't have another angry little outburst.

    What else you need to do:

    Drop this bum from your past like he is the proverbial bad habit
    Get to a conselor on your own also; tell him or her what you've told us
    Speak to your H --- tell him that the 2 of you need to be working on your marriage together like a couple and that you demand he see a marriage counselor with you and that he also get anger managment for his problem.

    If he doesn't agree to counseling, perhaps it's better you throw in the towel and go.

    If you decided to do that:

    NO dating for at least 5 years.

    I'm serious.  You were with your H for a very long time and the marriage went on the rocks. It probably was rocky right about the time you married him.

    You are too vulnerable and you are bound to choose the wrong person --- you are already doing that, by virtue of encouraging this other bum to be "your friend." This guy is poison; no decent man goes after a married woman, as I said.

    Wishing you luck. You'll need an attorney for the house issue, if you do decide to go your separate way.

    And you lived with your mother up until you purchased the house?

    You weren't self sufficient enough, either, to live on your own: tell us again why it was a great idea to marry your H.

    The horse is now out of the barn but this is why it is a good idea to wait about 3 or 4 years after you're married before you can even think of purchasing a home --- your marriage needs legs and stability. As you can see, you don't have either one. You probably would never have had either one, judging by what you told us.
  • edited November 2014
    I can't even fathom how your  mother would have this guy stay at her home.

    Hasn't he ever heard of a hotel???

    And he is more or less a high school friend of yours, and gone and out of the loop --- surely she knows his past; why is he even in the picture at all, let alone stay at your mother's? This is whackdoo in itself.

    This whole thing is a mess ---  decide if your marriage is worth saving.

    If you decide no, retain an attorney -- you will need one for the house issue, as I said -- and no dating for at least 5 years. You need to grow up --- you haven't -- you sound like you are still in tenth grade --- and you need to spend vital time alone. No boyfriends, no dating no jerks from the past.

    Spend at least 5 years on your own with no dating at all.

    You need counseling to move on from the past --- for some reason you've "held onto" this guy from middle school and no, nobody stays hung up on a boyfriend from way back then.

    And when that time is up, no boyfriends with rocky pasts and screwed up past marriages or shitty relationships with girlfriends.  Don't accept damaged goods.


  • If you take nothing else away from everyone's comments, I just want to reiterate that you need to cut off this former flame NOW.  I agree with Tarpon that a good man does not try to talk a woman out of her marriage no matter how he feels.  Bottom line: get rid of the childhood sweetheart.

    Right now you're still married.  That means that until that changes you need to stop looking at other people as "options".  You should have shut this situation down the first time you noticed it was a temptation from your marriage.  

    It sounds like you got married for a lot of questionable motivations: long term dating often leads to "we HAVE to get married, everyone expects it" and then on top of it you invited your sort-of ex to your wedding to make him miserable.  Now I have no idea why else you may have felt that getting married was right for you, but those two factors seem pretty apparent.  

    It doesn't seem clear to me that you got married because you loved this man and wanted to be his partner for life.  I really think that is the root of all of your stated problems here.  First, you were never "madly" in love with him when you married him (something you yourself have observed), so you were setting yourself up for disappointment.  I also guess that you have unrealistic expectations for what "madly in love" really means in a good, long term relationship (HINT: it isn't necessarily like romance movies).  Then you are getting verbal abuse from your spouse, which isn't helping your self-esteem.  This was a recipe for you connecting (or reconnecting in this case) with someone who you probably would have dated if you had not spend so much time on someone you "never really had" a deep connection with, according to your post.  So this "lit up" feeling you were getting around this ex is probably not some mystical connection - it's just a natural reaction to getting special attention and affection when you feel you've been deprived.

    You should get yourself some space, but make sure your husband has some support while starting new treatments.  You need to think about what you're willing to do to make this work IF (big if) the medication and/or counseling fix the verbal abuse (again, this is a huge IF because I'm guessing it's not entirely the BPD).  You need to prepare yourself for the likelihood the abuse will not end with either interventions, and if the abuse is a personality trait and not an effect of the disorder (sadly, probably true) you need to make real, grown up steps toward getting yourself away from him.  Hire a lawyer, start seeing a therapist, and start learning about the financial repercussions of all of this.

    Then, take this as a life learning experience, and spend lots and lots of time learning to love yourself before you bother trying to give your efforts to anyone else.
  • teedaaleeteedaalee member
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    edited November 2014

    I’m sorry that it’s been difficult with your husband. This sounds like a complicated situation. You mentioned in your post that you talked about seeing a counselor, any further pursuit of that? It might be helpful to work through some of the hurts and disappoints that you’ve experienced in your marriage? Sometimes those things alone can impact our view of things. Wish you well!

    teedaalee0712

  • edited November 2014
    Dr Wife had a better idea even still, shut the guy down right there:

    When you saw that this wasn't going to be a strictly platonic contact from 8th Grade Boyfriend, you should have said "John, I am no longer comfortable speaking with you. Please do not contact me again" and made sure the contact ended right there.

    A decent guy would never have impinged on your relationship.  This "friend" is no friend.

    I am still shaking my head how your mother had no clue what was going on with this guy when you were 13. 13 is barely old enough to date, let alone be placed in a compromising position..
  • I have a cousin, who married a man with bipolar disorder.  At the time that they got married, he had not been diagnosed, and she had never known about his manic side (everyone's illness is slightly different - for him, his issues were rare).  However, once they got married and moved in together, the few times when he did fall victim to his disorder, her wonderful Dr. Jekyll turned into an evil Mr. Hyde.  Lots of verbal, and very physical abuse.  Needless to say, she got out of the marriage.  Years later, he was diagnosed, sought treatment, and after finding medication that worked for him, he was able to chase away his Mr. hyde, and remain the wonderful man she originally she married.  Only - now, he married someone else.  So his new wife got the benefit of the wonderful husband and amazing father that he turned out to be. 

    I bring up this example to say that it is possible that your husband's verbal abuse issues are directly related to his disorder, and that after medication (and possibly counseling - I'm not personally aware of what treatment is recommended), that aspect of him can go away.  Of course, as another person said....it is also very possible that the verbal abuse is him - and not his disorder.  In that case, he can still seek counseling to help manage his anger. 

    In romance, that "heart flutter" feeling passes, and feelings change as a relationship grows and matures.  Choosing to continue to love someone takes commitment.  When you took your marriage vows, you made this commitment to your husband, although from what you tell us, you didn't have much desire to follow through with them from the beginning.  If you wanted to, you could find ways to spice up your marriage, and rekindle a flame for your husband (or start one now, if you never had it to begin with), but it takes your willingness to work. 

    As every other poster has said - whether or not you decide to stay with your husband, this relationship that you have going with your friend is completely inappropriate.  Nothing that your husband has done means that he deserves to be cheated on.  As @Drwifephd said, this excitement that you're feeling for your friend has a lot to do with your disinterest in your husband, and his verbal abuse towards you.  It is nice to feel desired, and feel wanted.  It's also easy to fall into lust, and desire what we can't have.  Right now, your Mr. perfect looks so perfect because you're building up this "if only" situation in your mind (and how often do we factor reality into those day dreams?).  However, once that relationship begins, the sparks will stop and the flame will dim.  No matter how great your connection (or more accurately - your lust) is to begin with, all relationships will take continued commitment to grow deeper and remain strong. 

    Encourage your husband to continue seeking treatment for his disorder, and go to marriage counseling with him.  Go on dates, and rekindle your flame.  Most importantly, completely ditch the attempted wife stealer.  He isn't nearly as wonderful as you've built him up to be in your dreams, and as long as you remain married, you owe it to your husband to honor your vows.  Just the idea that you've asked your friend if he would really leave his girlfriend for you is deplorable.  Regardless of whether or not you stay with your husband, you owe him an apology for your cheating behavior.
  • GilliCGilliC member
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    edited November 2014
    You list a lot of symptoms that you're not happy in your marriage. As the PPs have said, this has nothing to do with this other guy. There's nothing wrong with realizing that you made a mistake getting married to your H, but you need to address your marital issues independently of some romantic feelings for someone else. I strongly recommend counseling to help you recognize what's attracting you to someone else and what's missing in your marriage.

    I could have written large parts of this post. My friends commented about how much happier I seemed when my H want around, and I started finding myself thinking about other men. We eventually decided to split up, and we have both been so much happier since.

    Even if you decide to end your marriage, you should find out what was really wrong so that you don't make the same mistakes again someday. It can be very hard to self-analyze the root causes of our own behavior or to recognize ways that we can change. This is why counseling can be such a big help, beyond just trying to fix a relationship or decide what to do.
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