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Poll/Opinion re: social situation

I'm not trying to start any trouble or anything, but overheard an encounter today that has me wondering what you all thought

Story:
I was in a family restaurant establishment.  Middle of the road - not pricey, but still a sit down restaurant.  A couple walked in and sat...I'm not sure if it was before or after me, because I had just taken the 3 hour glucose tolerance test and my singular focus was FOOD.  At any rate, if they walked past me, I didn't notice.  I was busy checking FB and devouring my salad bar selections and waiting for my super burger.

HOWEVER, the lady sitting behind me obviously did notice.  Apparently when the couple walked by, the female smelled quite strongly of urine.  She was obviously unkempt.  (Greasy nearly matted hair.)  She was overweight, and looked to be physically disabled, but not obviously mentally disabled.  The man appeared relatively neatly kept.  I did not get close enough to smell either of them.

The woman sitting behind me was downright livid about this woman being in the restaurant, and let the waitress know.  (This is when I got clued in to the whole thing as I overhead the conversation.)  From what lady behind me said, when the couple walked by, the odor caused her to gag.  I heard the waitress apologize, acknowledge it was a difficult situation, and that the server assigned to that table was struggling.  To the best of my knowledge she didn't offer to do anything about it, though.  (Not sure she really could have...) The patron behind me was insistent that someone tell the offensive woman that she was indeed smelling offensive.  I didn't hear the waitress' response.

And then, after she complained to the waitress, the lady sitting behind me actually went over to the offensive woman and told her so.  "You smell of urine  In this day and age, no one should leave the house like that."  She then looked at the waitress and said, "You're welcome" and walked out.  I averted my eyes.

On one hand, I agree that you should take care of yourself if you are going to be in public (in regards to odors, dirt, and other hygiene issues.....also appropriate dress, but not related to style, etc....Just dressed) 

But, on the other, I think it was incredibly rude of the woman to address the situation with strangers.  It was obvious that she ruined this couple's meal.  Without knowing health history, etc., who knows if the woman had a medical issue, or couldn't afford the supplies to keep herself clean.  She may have just gotten out of the hospital, or something to that effect.  Who knows the story....

I can't figure out how to post a clicky poll (didn't you used to be able to just click "add poll"?!?!) but am anxious to hear what you all think.  Just curious.  People intrigue me, and I always like hearing different sides to stories and opinions. 

Should the waitress/restaurant have removed the couple?  (They needed to know that she/they smelled offensive, which is inappropriate for an eating establishment.)

Should the offended patron said something to the couple?  (If you're loved ones aren't going to tell you, someone should!)

Should they have just let the be? (Mind your own business, move your seat if you have to, grin and bear it as a waitress, and assume there is more to the story than you know.)

Thoughts?

Re: Poll/Opinion re: social situation

  • Me personally? Let it be. It's none of my business and who knows the whys behind her appearance. That being said - I'm a very non confrontational person ;) I would just try to ignore it, probably gripe to my husband about it, but frankly, it's a public place so there's not a lot I could do about it.
  • I am with Gwen. That woman has no idea what that poor woman's situation was. I am embarrassed for that poor couple and to that woman, karma is indeed a biatch and she will come for you.
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  • Ditto Kris and Gwen. I have been in situations on the bus where I've had to sit with similar (and even worse) scents coming from passengers, but I never thought to say something to the bus driver and have them removed from the bus.
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  • I also agree with Gwen - definitely let it be.  Although, I am a confrontational person when it comes to people being a-holes (DH says that I will end up on that show "What Would You Do?", lol), so I probably would have given the horrible woman who said something a piece of my mind.  Her behavior makes me livid!

    This is something I've experienced in the work place, when there have been times that I have had to have conversations with employees regarding their odor, but that is part of my job.  I know how to handle difficult conversations, what resources to offer them if there is some extenuating circumstance going on, etc.

  • I am also in the "leave it" camp, a although that was probably pretty obvious from what I wrote...

    I was embarrassed for the couple, and for the woman, too, really. She looked like a jerk. (And she was one). She didn't do it loudly, but I was a few tables away and heard, so I know others did, too. I thought about apologizing to the couple, but thought that might make it worse....
  • Ugh, that's a horrible situation.  I would just leave it.  Like others said, you don't know the back story.  If the smell was truly that offensive, I would probably just asked to be moved to a different table.  Who takes it upon themselves to tell a woman she smells?!?!
     
  • Chances are (although no one knows) the woman with the poor odor didn't wake up and say "hey I know I stink and I don't care, I'm going to offend the world".  Chances are something is wrong in her life.  So I would hope that I would have had the courage (especially if my kids were there) to grab the lady and tell her how rude she was, to have compassion & that life isn't always odor free.   Who knows what that woman's story is/was ?  I can't even think about it it makes me so upset.  
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  • bride2003 said:

    So I would hope that I would have had the courage (especially if my kids were there) to grab the lady and tell her how rude she was, to have compassion & that life isn't always odor free.   Who knows what that woman's story is/was ?  I can't even think about it it makes me so upset.  

    I wish I would have been that brave.... I was partially in shock that it all was happening. And I'm a wimp. I laid in bed thinking about this last night and thought I should have at least paid for their bill anonymously. Too bad these situations catch us off guard. I'd do things differently with a chance to think!
  • This is an upsetting story.  I can't imagine how the woman felt being rudely confronted by a stranger like that. 

    If the smell was too hard for me to take I would have just tried to get out of the restaurant faster by getting a to go box or something. 

    I would like to think that after all the episodes I have seen of What Would You Do? that I would have confronted the mean lady or comforted the other lady but I probably would have been so shocked that I wouldn't have had time to process and react.

    When I was a hostess at the Olive Garden we were trained to discretely place a chair without arms (Larry Chair) at a table before seating any larger guests.  When I received this training I understood the importance of preventing guests from discomfort or potential embarrassment.  Too bad the mean woman in your story didn't put herself in the other woman's shoes before opening her mouth.

  • Dena - I'm curious, but what was the "receiving" couples' reaction?

    I agree with all of you ladies, too, regarding this embarassing situation (for the attacker). There are definitely ways situations could be handled - this lady clear did it the worng way. 

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