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New Car

I am looking to buy a new car about mid year once my 2 credit cards really paid. I am or king on doing all my research now, I am focusing my savings money towards a decent down payment for the car. I want a Honda CRV preferably certified with under 40k in mileage. I am going over my budget and I think my cap should be around $400 for a monthly payment. Here is my break down

$1700 take home no overtime
$725 rent
$46 cable
$79 electric (budget plan so this won't change)
$25 water (monthly cost billed quarterly)

$279 car insurance (paid biannual) I know this will change
$230 renters insurance (paid annual)

$200 grocery
$120 gas

Left over goes to savings and wants

7% contribution to 401k
$600 in regular savings
$500 in e fund (putting deposits on hold til I get new car)

I plan on making extra payments with overtime (made about $12k in overtime hours last year)

I think I am just over analyzing everything which is why I won't buy a house until my ducks are in perfectly lined rows (year e fund, 5% down payment, car paid off)

Note about my car ownership this is my 3rd car in 11 years of driving I keep until it is not economically smart to fix it any more which is why I feel like I can invest in a higher priced car. I have had my honda civic for 8 years.

So what do you guys think? Budget is with cards paid off.
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Re: New Car

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  • Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with a $400 payment on that budget. My math would show about $1660 in fixed expenses at that point, leaving only $40 for fun and continuing to build your savings. If it were me, and I needed a new car on your budget, I'd probably shoot for a $100-$150 payment, which is an older car. I'd save for the DP until I had enough for a safe older car, of course (ie my H's 11 yo Subaru). I don't mean to be a bummer, but I'd go crazy without a little bit of blow money, as well as the ability to keep working on my e-fund and increasing retirement. I'd put off the purchase for as long as (safely) possible.

    Excuse me if my math is wrong-bad case of Sunday brain.
  • The oldest I will go is a 2009, both of my cars have been older, a 1998 purchased in 2003 and a 2000 purchased in 2008. I would personally like to get something newer so I m not expecting repairs within a year or so. My civic I had to replace the motor in the first year of ownership. I am hoping with a good down payment of at least $1k not including a trade in should give me a monthly payment closer to $300.
  • The income doesn't include overtime which I tend to get a little to a lot every week so there is wiggle room for more fun money when I need it.
  • Overtime is definitely helpful. And it does look like, in my area at least, you could probably get a $300-$400 payment on the car you're seeking on a 5-year loan. For me, though, I've just found I'm unhappy without a little more wiggle room. The stress of "what if we lost our jobs" haunts me even in the best of times. Then again, I'm not really a car person. CR-Vs are definitely nice cars though.

    One thing to add into your calculations is any state taxes that will be added on. They really add up in our state!
  • If you want an honest opinion, I think it's a terrible idea.

    From your previous posts, it seems like you're just now getting your financial footing. I think you need to have more savings and stability before getting yourself tied to a car payment that takes up proportionally so much of your income.

    I'd recommend you bump your retirement up to 15% and save up significantly more than $1,000 to put down before heading to the dealership.
    HeartlandHustle | Personal Finance and Betterment Blog  
  • With the rate I have been fixing my car this year I have to buy a car this year. The ac compressor is shot so I am only running on two belts to bypass the repair which is over $1000 to fix, I need a new muffler and an axle is leaking.

    My employer matches 4% so it technically is 11, but I only put in 7. And to be honest I don't plan on getting a car at 400, I was using that at a ceiling. I used a payment calculator and a 18.3k car with a 1k down payment was a $333 monthly payment.
  • OP, a question-what is the most you could put away toward a DP in the next year if you really, really focus? I'd recommend still adding to your e-fund as you do this. Could you save more than $1000 if you save all of your OT?

    My concern is that if that number is $1000, even with your OT, then if an emergency of over $1000 came along and wiped out your savings you'd be in "bad" debt again really quickly. That's the last thing you want after working so hard to pay off your CCs.
  • Is there something wrong with your car right now? Are the credit cards your only debt?

    Even with overtime helping, it seems like it would stretch your budget awfully tight, considering you only have about 1k in savings. From my basic searching, you can get a 2009 CR-V with 40k miles for about 15k in my area. That's a very expensive car with your budget.

    Can you decide to save the overtime for a set period of time and then put mostly or all cash towards the car? If you made 12k last year in overtime then you could be really close to buying a CR-V at the end of this year with a much much more reasonable loan.
  • If you have it already decided, then why are you asking for opinions? If you do have to get a new car, I agree with @Xstatic3333‌'s sage advice to buy something less expensive. I'm sorry you've had trouble with cars before, but you can absolutely get something reliable that was made before 2009. You'll just need to do some research, find a reputable dealer, ideally a well taken care of single owner car without an accident history and low miles, and be prepared to pay for some regular preventative maintenance.
    HeartlandHustle | Personal Finance and Betterment Blog  
  • I could easily save a few hundred a month with overtime, I literally work as much as physically possible. Like I don't mind 70 hour weeks
  • The blown motor was a single owner car. My concern is more with mileage than years age. I want something under 40k in mileage to avoid costly repairs as long as possible. I plan on being debt free by end of may hopefully so still time to look. My question was more about my payment ceiling. I will do as much research as possible until then.
  • So just did a quick search on auto trader for cars 2005 and newer (10 years old is my limit) with less than 45k in mileage and max budget of 15k. And I found many cars that I could consider I did have my heart set on an suv, but it is just me and I don't plan on having children so I can have a small car. I can add a roof rack to throw a kayak or paddle board on it. And most of the cars I liked were less than 12k compared to the 18-19k I was looking at for CRVs.
  • I guess I still don't understand... are you without a car right now or is your current car on its last leg? If you wait a year, you could buy this car in cash with your overtime pay. Then you have it free and clear. But if you buy it in May when you only have $1000 in the bank and your base takehome is only 20k, it's more likely to not turn out well. If your overtime dries up, you're going to be up a creek.
  • Have my civic still that I put in over $4k in repairs in 2 years on a now 15 year old car. And she has more things that need to be repaired so I am tired of throwing money at her as these repairs are not cheap, muffler, axle, ac compressor. Trying to make her last until I get out of credit card debt. One card is 1.7k and will be paid off with my return, the other hopefully by end of may.
  • The other card is 3.8k and the reason of the end of may deadline is it is the 1st biweekly paycheck third check month. Which I don't take rent out of.
  • I'm in a similar situation. We are keeping my 2004 Saturn Vue limping along but I'm not buying something new until a major repair happens. And that repair is going to have to be more than a years worth of car payments for me. You do see the irony in that $333 a month in car payments (not to mention the increase in insurance) is about $4,000 a year, right? I mean if you think of your repair costs as a monthly payment, you're talking about doubling your payment ($4,000 over two years vs. 1 year)
  • Okay, just went back and read literally all your posts since 2012. Please do not get a $12k loan! Drive the car until it dies and save as much as you can until then and then buy something in cash. 

    Do some research on used cars that are known for their reliability and durability and buy something with relatively low mileage that you can afford. 

    You've come so far in your financial journey and this decision could put you back in a bad position. Are you still wanting to go back to school? If you buy this car and are tied to a loan for 5 years, is it feasible for you to go back to school? 

    Your top priorities before buying the car need to be paying off the debt and saving at least 3 months of expenses. Does this car plan really fit in to your 5 year financial goals?
  • True, the repairs that need to be made on her to get everything good again is about 1.5k, in my search I found a car for 8k with less than 45k in miles. Which is probably a better payment. I have a good career and thinking of finally moving on from my old girl.
  • For school I start classes on the 22nd, dad is paying tuition and I just buy books. I should be done with my associates in the fall semester and plan on applying to UMass for my bachelor's degree in business administration, and then eventually SNHU for my masters in information technology/data analytics.

    My mechanic says she is a good little car and her sticker is good through June 2016 so that is my absolute deadline. I will probably want another honda, as I have had this one for 8 years with mostly no big issues minus a year or two of bad luck.

    My original 5 year plan had me saving up 5k for a down payment on a car. Just need to change the plan a little.
  • This is my main name I also posted under tigerfighter when I originally started posting about issues with my marriage but managed to forget the password and have issues reseting it on my tablet.
  • Oh yeah, I read all the Tigerfighter posts too. 
  • I just hit one year from the morning that started this journey this past Thursday, it was a long road but I am in better place. Renewing my lease in March, which I love my apartment and plan on staying until I can buy a condo as my dad says I can't take care of a house. Which is fine as I have found some nice condos in my area for 89 - 109k which would be doable compared to my current rent. But before I buy I plan on having my e fund done or at least 6 months, 3-5% down payment and my car paid off. I plan on doing school with no student loans by taking 2 classes a semester. I tend to over plan and over analyze everything.
  • amhill87 said:

    So just did a quick search on auto trader for cars 2005 and newer (10 years old is my limit) with less than 45k in mileage and max budget of 15k. And I found many cars that I could consider I did have my heart set on an suv, but it is just me and I don't plan on having children so I can have a small car. I can add a roof rack to throw a kayak or paddle board on it. And most of the cars I liked were less than 12k compared to the 18-19k I was looking at for CRVs.

    Look into Honda Fits. They are HUGE inside, great mileage, and crazy reliable. I don't even plan to replace it once we have kids. I've has car seats in here babysitting just fine. Is it the best snow car? No. But from the schools you listed I know we're in the same area, and I get by fine. You could probably get a used one in great shape for $10,000. I'm over 100,000 and haven't has a single non-routine repair, just brake pads and new tires.
  • I'm in RI with 13 mile one way commute for work, both my bachelor's and masters will be all online. Currently go to BBC for my associates and go to class 1 time a week.
  • amhill87 said:

    I just hit one year from the morning that started this journey this past Thursday, it was a long road but I am in better place. Renewing my lease in March, which I love my apartment and plan on staying until I can buy a condo as my dad says I can't take care of a house. Which is fine as I have found some nice condos in my area for 89 - 109k which would be doable compared to my current rent. But before I buy I plan on having my e fund done or at least 6 months, 3-5% down payment and my car paid off. I plan on doing school with no student loans by taking 2 classes a semester. I tend to over plan and over analyze everything.

    Please, please have more to put down on a house than you're considering.

    And the references you've made about your dad make it sound like you have a lot of growing up to do.

    We're only trying to help you with our advice. Some of the things you say make it sound like you care more about looking like you have money and impressing others than being in a good place with your finances.

    Also, I don't think your budget is really complete. Do you have a cell phone, for example? I don't see that included, nor do I see the expensive gym membership I think it was you I've seen include in past posts. And when you're back in school, will you be working full time and taking a full load of classes?

    You can absolutely get to where you want to be, it just takes sacrifices to get there. And now is not the time to buy a bright shiny new car.
    HeartlandHustle | Personal Finance and Betterment Blog  
  • I actually considered the Fit. So much research on different cars, I think I need a break from car research for a bit. I will focus on working out and mud runs, which is my fun time and I budget those in.
  • Yup, RI here too. I find the Fit fine for my purposes. Maybe if I was in Foster/Glocester I'd want a better snow car, but it's fine for my commute. Sometimes my H drives it to his job in Worcester. I think snow driving has a lot to do with skill too, not just car size.
  • Cell phone is $500 annually, February is my last payment for my kickboxing which is $149. I plan on doing work outs at home after that.

    My dad doesn't think I can handle repairs on my own. I have been on my own completely since April, prior to that I lived at home or with a s/o. I feel like I can learn how to handle simple repairs. He stated since I am not going to be married and he is not going to be around forever I should buy a condo so I do not have to deal with the repairs. I personally would love a fixer upper.
  • I take 2-3 classes a semester, this semester 1 on campus and 2 online. This allows me to work as much overtime as I can when it is available.
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