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GTKY: Favorite cities? Least favorite?

I've been entertaining myself during lunch reading Fodors and TA lists.  I thought I'd ask the MM board:

Favorite US city?  Why?  Least favorite?  Why?

If you've been out of the country, do you have favorite/least favorite non-US cities?
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  • noffgurlnoffgurl member
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    I love Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg, Tennessee and Eureka Springs, Arkansas! Salt Lake City, Utah is pretty great, too. I HATE Houston, Texas.

    ETA forgot to add the why's. The loves are for the character of the towns and they are in some really beautiful locations. Houston, it's so hot and humid 24/7, I have never met a nice person there, no one can drive, it's just a place you can't get away from fast enough.
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  • Favorite US: For me it's probably a 3-way tie between Boston, New Orleans, and Nashville.  Boston feels quintessentially "American" to me in ways that no other city in the US can compare.  New Orleans has an amazing vibe - great culture, food, music, and it's usually warm there (I hate cold weather).  Nashville is an amazing place to live.  It perfectly blends southern charm with cosmopolitan openness.

    Least favorite US: NYC.  Sorry, but it's huge and hectic.  Every time I've been there I just get stressed out by having so many people crammed into such a small space.  I also rather dislike Atlanta, primarily because of the traffic.  But I mean, at least Atlanta is warm(ish)!

    Favorite foreign: Rome.  It will always be Rome for me.  I don't think I'll ever find a city anywhere in the world that I love more, and I would be perfectly content with that.  It's pretty much been the epicenter of western civilization for thousands of years, and as you walk around the city you can see those years built on each other in layers through the architecture and the way the city has changed.  It's gritty and crumbling, and I love it.  I'm also a sucker for church architecture and art, and Rome is like a playground if you are into that.  I have visited more than 25 churches in that city, and I never once got bored.

    Honorable mention: Winchester, England.  We visited 9 churches in our trip to England last August, and Winchester Cathedral was our favorite (side note: Westminster Abbey was actually our least favorite).  The town of Winchester itself was also adorable and authentic.  Very few tourists, and we had the best time just wandering around.

    Least favorite: A tie between Florence and Bath.  Both places were too perfect, too clean, too oriented for tourists.  The Florentines spoke better English than I did.  I honestly felt like I was at Epcot, except unlike Epcot I had to spend a crapton of money and take an overnight flight to get there.
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  • Likes: 
    Alexandria, VA
    Cape Cod, MA
    Newport, RI

    Reasons: Even though the MA and RI locations are driving distances from me, I absolutely love the summer feel and old charm when I walk through their towns.

    Dislikes: 
    I don't really have any.

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  • Likes: 
    Alexandria, VA
    Cape Cod, MA
    Newport, RI

    Reasons: Even though the MA and RI locations are driving distances from me, I absolutely love the summer feel and old charm when I walk through their towns.

    Dislikes: 
    I don't really have any.
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    hoffse said:
    Favorite US: For me it's probably a 3-way tie between Boston, New Orleans, and Nashville.  Boston feels quintessentially "American" to me in ways that no other city in the US can compare.  New Orleans has an amazing vibe - great culture, food, music, and it's usually warm there (I hate cold weather).  Nashville is an amazing place to live.  It perfectly blends southern charm with cosmopolitan openness.

    Least favorite US: NYC.  Sorry, but it's huge and hectic.  Every time I've been there I just get stressed out by having so many people crammed into such a small space.  I also rather dislike Atlanta, primarily because of the traffic.  But I mean, at least Atlanta is warm(ish)!

    Favorite foreign: Rome.  It will always be Rome for me.  I don't think I'll ever find a city anywhere in the world that I love more, and I would be perfectly content with that.  It's pretty much been the epicenter of western civilization for thousands of years, and as you walk around the city you can see those years built on each other in layers through the architecture and the way the city has changed.  It's gritty and crumbling, and I love it.  I'm also a sucker for church architecture and art, and Rome is like a playground if you are into that.  I have visited more than 25 churches in that city, and I never once got bored.

    Honorable mention: Winchester, England.  We visited 9 churches in our trip to England last August, and Winchester Cathedral was our favorite (side note: Westminster Abbey was actually our least favorite).  The town of Winchester itself was also adorable and authentic.  Very few tourists, and we had the best time just wandering around.

    Least favorite: A tie between Florence and Bath.  Both places were too perfect, too clean, too oriented for tourists.  The Florentines spoke better English than I did.  I honestly felt like I was at Epcot, except unlike Epcot I had to spend a crapton of money and take an overnight flight to get there.

    I am mostly a lurker, but had to comment on the Italian cities!  I actually thought the opposite of you in Florence and Rome.  I found Rome very much a typical large urban city, aside from the historic sites of course.  I didn't really feel the "magic" that I did in Florence.  I found Florence to be so much more representative of the Italian culture, and just fell in love with it.  Sorry to jump in, it was just interesting to see such a different perspective.  I went about 10 years ago so my memory may be a little faded, but that's what I recall when I visited. 

    But I'm with you in hating NYC :) 

  • To keep from getting overwhelmed with this question, I'm excluding places I've lived more than a few months and answering as a tourist.

    1.  Favorite US: Seattle and Portland, ME.  Seattle is my favorite large city.  I like it's vibe, natural beauty, and FOOD.  Portland ME is a weekend trip for us and I love its proximity to the ocean, maritime heritage, and once again, food.

    2.  Least favorite US: I know they have a lot to offer, but I just can't gel with either Chicago or Philly.  

    1.  Favorite Foreign: Tie between Dublin and Sydney.  I visited both of these in college.  Dublin was the friendliest city I have ever been to, foreign or otherwise.  Amazing history as well.  Sydney was spread out and large, but I loved exploring the distinctive little neighborhoods and the ability to commute places by ferry.

    2.  Least favorite foreign: Cairns, Australia.  This is the jumping off point to the Great Barrier Reef.  I loved that part, obviously, but the whole scene was trashed backpackers.  I couldn't find a place to have a sensible drink or meal with friends.  
  • Favorite US: Boston, Portland, ME, Augusta GA

    Least Favorite: NYC it's just too much. I basically had a panic attack last time I was there. 

    I don't think I've visited enough foreign cities to judge well.  London was OK (our hotel was awful and none of the food sticks out, but walking around was good). I LOVE Paris...but would avoid the Montmartre area. Montreal is fun, as is Halifax.
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  • U.S. faves: A big fan of Boston, which in my opinion would be the perfect city if only the people were a little more Midwestern. :) I also love, love, love Napa. It's beautiful and of course, wine.

    Least fave: Las Vegas. We visited in November and I was suprised how much we disliked it. Except for our hotel it seemed dirty and rundown. And expensive! I also wasn't as impressed with Seattle as I thought I'd be. The fish market was neat, but downtown was mostly made up of chains.

    International fave: Barcelona. It's so diverse and walkable. You can get history, art, culture and the beach all in one place. We've been twice and will keep going back. We also loved Wellington, New Zealand. Friendly people, who gave H a private tour of their local stadium just because he asked. Incredible free national museum and arboretum. Fun pier area and good shopping downtown.

    Least fave: Rome. We found it congested and unfriendly. The drivers there are insane, and I hated being packed like sardines into every monument basically having to move with the speed of everyone else, particularly inside the Vatican musuems and Sistine chapel.

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  • noffgurl said:

    I love Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg, Tennessee and Eureka Springs, Arkansas! Salt Lake City, Utah is pretty great, too. I HATE Houston, Texas.

    ETA forgot to add the why's. The loves are for the character of the towns and they are in some really beautiful locations. Houston, it's so hot and humid 24/7, I have never met a nice person there, no one can drive, it's just a place you can't get away from fast enough.

    Love Eureka Springs! I know it's not the same, but we love Branson too!!
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  • I'm pumped that so many of you from other areas like Boston!  I used to live there so I left it out for myself, but as a big sports fan I'm often under the assumption that the rest of the country hates us.  
  • Favorite in US: Omaha, NE.  Quaint downtown with a historic feel, amazing pedestrian bridge with trail to run/walk on, the food and beer....oh the food and beer.  It was quite surprising as to how impressed I was with that small town city.

    Least favorite in US: Chicago.  Okay, I'm biased because I lived there for a couple of years.  But it's dirty, smells, their public transportation is horrible, and anything you would want to see or get to is so far apart that you have to take the horrific public transportation to get to it.  The only thing it has going for it is deep dish pizza and fun drunken Cubs baseball.

    Favorite non-US city: Norwich, England.  Cobblestone streets, fresh fish markets, beautiful piers at the sea, windmills, breathtaking cathedral, gorgeous floral tree park, and high altitude where it's often to be standing in the clouds.  I would rent a car and drive around that area again any day.

    Least favorite non-US city: Paris.  Maybe my expectations were too high, but it didn't seem like a romantic city to me.  The architecture was neat, but it was so touristy I couldn't wait to get out of it.  

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  • hoffse said:
    Favorite US: For me it's probably a 3-way tie between Boston, New Orleans, and Nashville.  Boston feels quintessentially "American" to me in ways that no other city in the US can compare.  New Orleans has an amazing vibe - great culture, food, music, and it's usually warm there (I hate cold weather).  Nashville is an amazing place to live.  It perfectly blends southern charm with cosmopolitan openness.

    Least favorite US: NYC.  Sorry, but it's huge and hectic.  Every time I've been there I just get stressed out by having so many people crammed into such a small space.  I also rather dislike Atlanta, primarily because of the traffic.  But I mean, at least Atlanta is warm(ish)!

    Favorite foreign: Rome.  It will always be Rome for me.  I don't think I'll ever find a city anywhere in the world that I love more, and I would be perfectly content with that.  It's pretty much been the epicenter of western civilization for thousands of years, and as you walk around the city you can see those years built on each other in layers through the architecture and the way the city has changed.  It's gritty and crumbling, and I love it.  I'm also a sucker for church architecture and art, and Rome is like a playground if you are into that.  I have visited more than 25 churches in that city, and I never once got bored.

    Honorable mention: Winchester, England.  We visited 9 churches in our trip to England last August, and Winchester Cathedral was our favorite (side note: Westminster Abbey was actually our least favorite).  The town of Winchester itself was also adorable and authentic.  Very few tourists, and we had the best time just wandering around.

    Least favorite: A tie between Florence and Bath.  Both places were too perfect, too clean, too oriented for tourists.  The Florentines spoke better English than I did.  I honestly felt like I was at Epcot, except unlike Epcot I had to spend a crapton of money and take an overnight flight to get there.

    I am mostly a lurker, but had to comment on the Italian cities!  I actually thought the opposite of you in Florence and Rome.  I found Rome very much a typical large urban city, aside from the historic sites of course.  I didn't really feel the "magic" that I did in Florence.  I found Florence to be so much more representative of the Italian culture, and just fell in love with it.  Sorry to jump in, it was just interesting to see such a different perspective.  I went about 10 years ago so my memory may be a little faded, but that's what I recall when I visited. 

    But I'm with you in hating NYC :) 

    Yes it's probably not typical to prefer Rome over Florence, but I tend to like slightly gritty cities.  Rome is definitely gritty: it's busy, and falling apart and graffiti'd, but I still loved every corner of it.  I think most people do like the very clean, well-preserved European cities, in which case Florence would probably win for them.  For me, Florence just kind of fell flat from my expectations.  I also discovered while I was there that I love Baroque art (Rome) and sort of despise Renaissance art (Florence). Unfortunately, the cards were probably stacked against Florence before I ever even arrived :)

    Probably the coolest place I've been to is Pompeii.  That place blew my mind.
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  • I'm pumped that so many of you from other areas like Boston!  I used to live there so I left it out for myself, but as a big sports fan I'm often under the assumption that the rest of the country hates us.  
    Nah we like you guys more than New York :)
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  • Another awesome place to visit is Eminence, Missouri.
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  • US Faves: New York (I was 18, with my sister, and we had a blast) and Alexandria, VA (stayed with a friend while visiting DC and loved the old town and the farmer's market)

    US Least Faves: San Antonio (too hot and confusing highways) and Cleveland (just felt dirty)

    Abroad Faves: Montreal (beautiful views and tons to see); Killarney, Ireland (SO beautiful and not crowded); and Moshi, Tanzania (I was 19, abroad by myself-ish, and being able to buy fresh passion fruit alone put it on the list)

    Abroad Least Faves: Limerick, Ireland (so dirty and boring and expensive)
  • Fav U.S. Cities: Richmond, VA due to the wonderful assortment of things to do and the odd Northern and Southern mixture of folks.

    Tacoma, WA with Puget sound, but with the more small town feel and appearance than Seattle.

    Stillwater, MN along the St. Croix river and full of neat shops and restaurants.

    Least Fav U.S. Cities: Las Vegas for its fakeness and that it supports an industry that leads a lot of people into ruin and hurts families.

    Basically, any major downtown area I dislike because I'm more of a nature, antique, small quaint town feel type of person.


    International Fav: Dover, England. and Edinburgh Scotland.

    Least Fav: Don't really have one.

  • I'm pumped that so many of you from other areas like Boston!  I used to live there so I left it out for myself, but as a big sports fan I'm often under the assumption that the rest of the country hates us.  

    While I have not been to Boston myself, I had a good friend who was in the Navy for many years.  Needless to say, she had at least visited a LOT of places throughout the world.  She said Boston was her all-time favorite city.  Though I've heard my charming current city of NOLA, is second only to Boston when it comes to potholes, lol.

    Alas, I haven't yet traveled much internationally, but have traveled pretty extensively through the U.S.  My all-time favorite city is Lake Tahoe, CA/NV.  Breathtakingly gorgeous!  There is the beautiful blue lake surrounded by beautiful mountains.  I hope to retire there some day, though it will probably never happen because of my cold-phobic husband.

    My least fave: Miami.  Though, to be fair, I wasn't visiting.  I lived there for three months after Hurricane Katrina.  I'd never been there and was initially looking forward to it...joked with my family, "Hey, if you have to evacuate, you can't get much better than Miami!"  OMG, I was SO wrong!  Rudest drivers ever...and they're pretty bad in NOLA, plus I grew up in So CA.  So it isn't as if I arrived like Rebecca from Sunnybrook Farm.

    I also found people, in general, were more unfriendly and snobbier than anywhere else I'd been.  And I'm a pretty friendly, optimistic person myself, so that is the "vibe" I usually pick up when visiting places.  Heck, NYC has a reputation for being rude, but on my one visit there I actually found everyone I encountered to be SO welcoming and gracious.

    In fact, unlike some of the rest of you, I loved NYC.  I loved the hustle bustle.  Loved the food, Loved being able to walk everywhere.  However, I was only there for a couple days and was on vacation.  Perhaps it would be a different tune if I had been there on business or stayed longer.

  • Favorite: Boston, San Francisco

    Least Favorite- Oakland (ghetto)

  • Favorites - colorado springs, kaua'i, destin - I like that laid back relaxed feeling in a vacation

    Least - atlanta (personal reasons), LA (too big and congested), sanibel (bug bites), New Orleans (probably because I was pregnant and puking at the time)
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  • I'm pumped that so many of you from other areas like Boston!  I used to live there so I left it out for myself, but as a big sports fan I'm often under the assumption that the rest of the country hates us.  

    While I have not been to Boston myself, I had a good friend who was in the Navy for many years.  Needless to say, she had at least visited a LOT of places throughout the world.  She said Boston was her all-time favorite city.  Though I've heard my charming current city of NOLA, is second only to Boston when it comes to potholes, lol.

    Alas, I haven't yet traveled much internationally, but have traveled pretty extensively through the U.S.  My all-time favorite city is Lake Tahoe, CA/NV.  Breathtakingly gorgeous!  There is the beautiful blue lake surrounded by beautiful mountains.  I hope to retire there some day, though it will probably never happen because of my cold-phobic husband.

    My least fave: Miami.  Though, to be fair, I wasn't visiting.  I lived there for three months after Hurricane Katrina.  I'd never been there and was initially looking forward to it...joked with my family, "Hey, if you have to evacuate, you can't get much better than Miami!"  OMG, I was SO wrong!  Rudest drivers ever...and they're pretty bad in NOLA, plus I grew up in So CA.  So it isn't as if I arrived like Rebecca from Sunnybrook Farm.

    I also found people, in general, were more unfriendly and snobbier than anywhere else I'd been.  And I'm a pretty friendly, optimistic person myself, so that is the "vibe" I usually pick up when visiting places.  Heck, NYC has a reputation for being rude, but on my one visit there I actually found everyone I encountered to be SO welcoming and gracious.

    In fact, unlike some of the rest of you, I loved NYC.  I loved the hustle bustle.  Loved the food, Loved being able to walk everywhere.  However, I was only there for a couple days and was on vacation.  Perhaps it would be a different tune if I had been there on business or stayed longer.

    Oh yes, we've got potholes up the wazoo.  Boston itself is actually better than some of the smaller cities and suburbs in the area in that regard, though.

    I forgot about Miami when I was answering.  I actually really liked the city, but I totally agree with you about the drivers.  I felt like everyone else on the road was in their personal little Fast and the Furious fantasy.  We only saw the touristy areas of South Beach, and I would like to dig a little deeper the next time we go back (it's near H's dad, so that will happen for sure).  I didn't really get a good read on the people but since I'm from the northeast I find people are almost always friendlier than at home when I travel.  Exception: Quebec City.  Yikes.  That city is gorgeous, but cold in more ways than one.  
  • Most favorite US city: Columbus, Ohio I am biased since I lived there for 10 years.  I am also loving more the Akron area where I currently live with all of the hiking trails in forests.

    Least Favorite: Orlando, Fl just can't stand the heat and humidity.  Dallas, TX had a day trip to an even in Dallas and my navigator failed me.  I can't forget Pittsburgh and how hard it is to get from here to there because of the three rivers and the hills.  I have been told that if I parked downtown and walked around it is better.

    Then again, I like smaller towns and cities.

    Internationally:  I like Toronto since it is very easy to get around.  Zurich was also nice for the weekend that MW and I stayed.  The hotel was expensive but functional.  My most favorite was Koblenz and the small towns around it.  Bad Honnigen just North of Koblenz has many festivals on the weekends and it is right on the Rhine river with a European spa.

    Least Favorite: Frankfurt, Germany, didn't spend too much time roaming around this city, but it is the fiscal hub and very large.

    If you just want to see a German city without the crowds, go during a National Holiday that was how I saw Bonn, Germany and I could get through the commercial areas without tripping over people.

    I spent 10 weeks in a smaller city, large town called Wissen near Koln and Bonn that has a really nice downtown area where we stayed.  I actually was able to make friends with the local business owners and could have gotten a job with a German company.
  • KahlylaKahlyla member
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    Not in the US here, but:

    Love:

    Moncton, NB (there's a reason we moved here out of anywhere else in the country)
    Halifax, NS
    Toronto, ON (lived there for years, still love it but don't need the big city anymore)
    Ottawa, ON (some people say its "where 30-year-olds go to retire", lol. It is boring and a little pretentious but pretty with some great features and an awesome market area.)
    Picton, ON
    Kitchener/Waterloo, ON
    Banff, AB
    Jasper, AB
    Montreal, QC
    Quebec City, QC

    Boston, MA
    Providence, RI

    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Tarbert, Harris, Scotland
    Kirkwall, Orkney Islands, Scotland


    Only to visit
    :

    Las Vegas, NV
    Calgary, AB
    Traverse City, MI
    North Bay, ON
    Thurso, Scotland (the people are so friendly and it's very cute but I'm not sure I can think of a more boring place to live full time. It has a good feeling about it though)


    Dislike:

    Sault Ste. Marie, ON (there are so many reasons we left)
    Sudbury, ON
    Hamilton, ON
    Mississauga, Etobicoke and the like (Toronto 'burbs)
    Winnipeg, MB
    Sault Ste. Marie, MI
    Flint, MI
  • Wow you all been some really cool places...

    I will say Chicago is my absolute favorite city. I love it there. It's clean, they have great parks and I love a nice slice of deep dish pizza! And I also really love San Diego, there is so much to do there.

    Least favorite would be Dallas. The city itself seemed really choppy and the people were not nice. Then again that could because I was decked out my Ravens gear when we were playing the Cowboys the day I flew out. I will say I got one of the best steaks ever there!

     

  • SmrBrd2012SmrBrd2012 member
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    I too, am enjoying all the Boston love! I love my city (during the summer...). I always say I wish it were located a little closer to the equator, then I would have no problems with it. :)

    My faves:
    San Diego - they have an AWESOME zoo and the weather is just perfect. I love the vibe there.
    Seattle - I love the location. It's so pretty out there and lots of outdoorsy stuff to do outside the city too.

    Least faves:
    NYC- I'm also not a fan. I think it's overrated, way too busy, and I really don't understand why they think their pizza/bagels/whatever are superior but I'm also not a huge foodie.
    LA- Granted I only visited for a day but meh. I was underwhelmed. I was comparing it to San Diego at the time though.
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  • I may need to check out Seattle after hearing recs from a few people.

    I'll second the love for San Diego.  Fabulous city, gorgeous weather, amazing zoo (we are zoo people).

    I do like San Francisco, but the hottest I've ever been and the coldest I've ever been were both in San Fran.  Their weather is crazy.  

    Probably my favorite part of California is Big Sur, and the Carmel/Monterey area nearby.  So stunning.  H's grandma actually has a house on the old Hwy-1 on a cliff overlooking the ocean.  I haven't ever seen it, but the family says it's a little piece of heaven.  She built it back before California became such a popular place to live.

    Has anybody been to Oregon?  H and I have talked about going wine tasting there since it's cheaper than Napa.
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  • I'm not much of a city person, so it's pretty rare that I would visit one on vacation. If I had to live in a city, Minneapolis, MN would be near the top of the list because it's low key while still boasting a good arts scene, great food, and a fantastic trail system.

    In terms of travel, favorite in the US:
    Boston -- actually great for a family vacation. I would even go back.
    NYC -- not a place I'd go often, but it's fun to walk and see the neighborhoods, eat delicious food, and check out broadway

    Least favorite US city:
    Phoenix -- just a big expanse of the same thing over and over (maybe I missed the good parts)

    Favorite international:
    Istanbul -- the diversity of opportunities and experiences is incredible. From totally modern Asian fusion restaurants to thousand year old mosques.
    Quito -- very clean and modern feeling with a lot of fun energy.

    Least favorite international:
    Guatemala City -- sprawling, dirty, busy, and unsafe
    Nairobi -- class segregation was extreme and it was impossible to walk the streets w/o being harassed
  • Makes me sad that no one likes the Dallas area lol. But, it is pretty terrible compared to Fort Worth and the surrounding areas. I think it redeems itself with the State Fair, aquarium, and the Kimball Art Museum, though.
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  • noffgurl said:
    I love Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg, Tennessee and Eureka Springs, Arkansas! Salt Lake City, Utah is pretty great, too. I HATE Houston, Texas.

    ETA forgot to add the why's. The loves are for the character of the towns and they are in some really beautiful locations. Houston, it's so hot and humid 24/7, I have never met a nice person there, no one can drive, it's just a place you can't get away from fast enough.
    Though we are going to st lucia in a couple months and that will be our big vacation this year, I would love to go to Eureka Springs.  I hear it has that small town vibe and I would love to stay in the tree houses.
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  • vlagrl29 said:
    noffgurl said:
    I love Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg, Tennessee and Eureka Springs, Arkansas! Salt Lake City, Utah is pretty great, too. I HATE Houston, Texas.

    ETA forgot to add the why's. The loves are for the character of the towns and they are in some really beautiful locations. Houston, it's so hot and humid 24/7, I have never met a nice person there, no one can drive, it's just a place you can't get away from fast enough.
    Though we are going to st lucia in a couple months and that will be our big vacation this year, I would love to go to Eureka Springs.  I hear it has that small town vibe and I would love to stay in the tree houses.
    It's awesome there, I love the streets and shops. It's the quaint, everyone knows everyone, small town amazingness. The scenery around is awesome, too.
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  • Favorite US: Boston, Portland, ME, Augusta GA

    Least Favorite: NYC it's just too much. I basically had a panic attack last time I was there. 

    I don't think I've visited enough foreign cities to judge well.  London was OK (our hotel was awful and none of the food sticks out, but walking around was good). I LOVE Paris...but would avoid the Montmartre area. Montreal is fun, as is Halifax.
    I have a feeling this is how I would be.  I would like to visit it at some point.  MY BFF moved there 3  years ago and hasn't come back.  Of all people I know I would have thought she would have come back home fast.  Granted they live in NJ - she was working in Manhatten for a couple years.  She has more anxiety than I do, more introverted than me, and doesn't have a drivers license which is maybe why she likes it.
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