Keystone Pipeline, Anyone?

MommyLiberty5013

Thoughts? For or against and why?

AprilZ81

I'm not super knowledgeable about this topic, but I'm pro-pipeline.

If you look at the number of pipelines that already exist in the areas they want to put this one I don't understand why THIS one is causing such a fuss.  There are thousands of pipelines in the US, one more isn't going to be the death knoll to the environment opponents would like us to think it is.

Also, Canada is going to get that oil to the market one way or another so the US may as well benefit from it and have it piped here for processing.

We will have the increased jobs to build it and keep oil refinery workers employed (if not hire more).

Sisugal

Pro pipeline.
It is actually more environmentally friendly to build the pipeline than transport that oil via rail or road - and it will get moved one way or another.
Although many of the jobs created to build the pipeline are short term, they are still jobs that are needed by people now.
I  support being totally independent as a country for our oil needs (and there always will be some) and the pipeline supports that goal.
Yes, we need to also add more renewable energy, but renewable sources such as wind and solar will never fulfill all of our energy needs and not suitable for all areas of our country.

MommyLiberty5013

The one question I have is, I see how the process of building the pipeline would be disturbing to the flora and fauna, but once it was accomplished and the natural setting regrew and the scared wildlife came back, what's the environmental cost then?

The pipe is a few feet wide? Isn't it off the ground too, so theoretically animals could travel underneath it if they wanted, right?

With the situations in the Middle East and ISIS and the increasing instability in that part of the world with Saudia Arabia and Yemen, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, etc. I'm also thinking more energy independence is smart for our country.

BlueBirdMB

I think energy independence is the only long term solution to our national security issues.  We're going to continue to spin our wheels if we can't cut off their only source of income that they then use for nefarious purposes against us.  

So yes, pipeline.  Should have been done years ago, but instead was bantered around for political purposes.  

short+sassy

Oh fun!  I actually never noticed this Current Events board before.

I'm also pro-pipeline, especially because I live in Louisiana.  The biggest thing that convinced me is what happened in the last election here.  Mary Landrieu (DEM), senator at the time, and Bill Cassidy (GOP), rep at the time, were in a heated race for Mary's Senate seat.  And it was a nasty, nasty election with ridiculous mudslinging and both of them acting like immature 5-year-olds.  Yet they were both strongly for the Pipeline.

So my thought was, "Wow, if sworn enemies from different parties both think it's good, than it probably is." 

MommyLiberty5013

Moot point now. Right? Obama vetoed it. Last ditch effort will be a revote in the Legislature.

BlueBirdMB

MommyLiberty5013 said:

Moot point now. Right? Obama vetoed it. Last ditch effort will be a revote in the Legislature.

Let him veto.  And let them pass mountains of more legislature that he can veto.  I'd love for the country to see just how partisan and non-negotiable he truly is.

LuvlyLJ

I'm against it.  We may not even truly benefit from it.  Is there any stipulation that says the workers have to be American to help build it.

We don't get to keep the oil it goes on the market for them to sell it.  That area would just be torn up to transport it through and out.