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Syrian refugees
It's all over FB - the governors that won't allow the refugees in. Some thinks it's a great thing and others are saying it's so wrong. Personally I worry about another terrorist attack happening. We have enough mass shootings here by our own citizens the thought of another possible terrorist attack freaks me out. What are your thoughts?
Re: Syrian refugees
Bolded. My question is, do we have the ability right this second to screen them properly as ANY PERSON coming here legally would be screened? Does this take some time?
Years ago the U.S. took refugees from the Sudan. Many of them were people in their early 20s and children too. They too were escaping a war torn nation and horror. What happened was terrorism began to creep in amongst the refugees and the U.S shut its borders to allowing more refugees from Sudan in to this nation.
My other question is: how is the Syrian refugee situation difference and/or similar? Stats report that something like 33% of the refugees are pro-ISIS. How do we weed them out?
Thanks! Yeah the news just said 10,000 by the end of December. Problem I have is there are homeless vets.
Thanks! Yeah the news just said 10,000 by the end of December. Problem I have is there are homeless vets.
Same here. We need to take care of our vets.
The issue I have with people continuing to say that we should close our borders and not accept refugees because we have homeless veterans and other Americans living in poverty is that refusing refugees doesn't automatically feed money and new programs to these domestic issues.
Sure there are always needs to address and problems to be solved on the homefront but the people I see plastering Facebook with hateful anti-refugee speech (which very much generalizes an entire population based on words and actions of a minority) are probably not helping the problems of homeless veterans and domestic poverty.
Would closing the borders all of a sudden make people become more charitable towards homeless veterans and those impoverished in our country? No. Would closing the borders all of a sudden generate a new government program that addresses these issues? No. The two aren't mutually exclusive and so the rhetoric should not be juxtaposed as such.
The United States is a country built on immigrants and offering new opportunity. It's very disheartening to see the xenophobic outpouring in light of recent events.
Let me start by saying I certainly do consider homelessness in our society to be a major problem.
But it actually isn't as simple as "the homeless should all have a home". As crazy as it sounds, many homeless people want to and chose to be homeless. I'm not saying its the majority and I'm not saying there aren't many homeless people desperate to find a better way...but its still a lifestyle choice for some people. Though some of that choice might be fueled by mental illness and/or substance abuse problems.
But I agree I don't see a lot of correlation between refugees and the homeless problem. By and large, refugees (as well as immigrants) usually come to this country and work their tails off to make a better life for themselves and their children.
Some of the most patriotic people I know are legal immigrants. They bent over backwards...sometimes waiting many years... to be allowed to come to this country. They love the U.S. and are grateful to be here. They don't squander their opportunity and work hard to make a better life for themselves and their families. Of course, any time you are talking about a large group of people there will be some bad apples...but my description matches every single immigrant I've met who I've know personally enough to know their story.
I find Facebook really dis-heartening lately. I think that most of the statistics and information being thrown all over the place are completely made up. I would caution everyone to not believe what they are reading on social media right now. I agree with PP that the veterans and refugees issues are not mutually exclusive.
There is one refugee family in my city and they are being placed by an organization. I don't see why the government can't track refugees through the organizations that place them. I think there are better ways to increase US security than shutting the doors in the faces of thousands of people who are fleeing from our same common enemy with nothing but the clothes on their backs.
I live in Louisiana and there are 13 Syrian refugee families in the entire state. A handful of people...in a WHOLE state...and some people are acting like its the end of the world. I understand cautioned should be exercised with any immigration policies, but I'm saddened to see such a high fever of xenophobia.
The U.S. is a country of immigrants. Unless you're (general you) a Native American, your family came here from immigration also. It makes me glad the German side of my ancestry moved to the U.S. before WWI. Before they would have faced the xenophobia against Germans that existed after each WW.
ISIS members said they are going to try to blend in with refugees so that can infiltrate here. People need to wake up! Just because people are opposed to refugees coming here don't mean they're xenophobic. It's not a good time to let refugees in.
This article is from a conservative website in Virginia and I encourage you to enlighten yourself on the actual facts about refugees (I've done hours of research on this issue and this article does have consistent information with what I've found in other sources. It just sums it up in a nice way):
http://bearingdrift.com/2015/11/18/myths-vs-facts-in-the-syrian-refugee-issue/
Also, people are acting like not letting Syrian refugees in is going to cut on this spending and allow us to spend it on our own problems. 1. That's not how our government works. The money that will be cut will not be redirected to homeless veterans. 2. As you can see from this article, government spending on refugees is not a lot, comparatively, and the amount spent on Syrian refugees in particular, is miniscule. Refugees aren't being paid for by the government. They get a few thousand dollars to get them through the first 3 months, but after that they have to have a job and figure out how to pay their own rent and buy their own food. They can apply for government aid as legal residents, but that isn't coming from the refugee money.
Great infographic on the refugee screening process.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states