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Update: MM bummers

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edited December 2015 in Money Matters

Phew, it's been a blow to morale this week!

Tuesday - I came home to find many of our cables channels blocked because our cable carrier has now "digitized" the channels.  Previously, all those channels rode along for free with our high speed Internet that we did pay for. They weren't allowed to mess with the channels under prior FCC regulations.  But then the FCC decided that no one uses broadcast tv and removed those regulations.  Apparently they were listening to their fat-pocketed cable company buddies instead of the million+ Americans...like myself...who do indeed use broadcast tv.

Now my H and I need to figure out what to do.  Bite the bullet and get cable?  Make do with Amazon Prime and Hulu?  I'm literally going to sit down tonight, hand write a list of all the shows we tape, and see which ones we will lose completely if we don't get cable (sigh).  Tomorrow I will be stopping at the cable office to find out our options.

Wednesday-  My 3-year anniversary at my job was one week ago.  Normally I get a raise.  Not a very big one, but it at least covers inflation.  The Big Boss called me into his office.  Always scary, especially since we rarely need to interact, but I figured (hoped) it was about my raise.  He informed me, because of tough business times, they are not able to give me (or anyone else on my project) a raise this year :(.

He did at least thank me for the great work I do and complimented me for always be willing to step in and help out in other departments.  And I do appreciate that he told me personally instead of just letting me dangle in the wind wondering what happened to my raise.  But, oh well.  The truth is...and I told him this also...that although I was disappointed, I'm happy to still have a job with the company because I know there have been a lot of layoffs.

On a broader picture, at this point every month I'm still working is a blessing.  The sand is shifty.  I've thought about at least throwing my resume out there but, the truth is, I really like this job and wouldn't want to leave it for something else.  So I hang in there, worry a bit, and pray that our client starts expanding again. 

Re: Update: MM bummers

  • That sucks about your raise, but it sounds like you are lucky to have a job (and I don't mean that in a snarky way) and even luckier that you LIKE your job!
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  • I'm sorry to hear about the raise. It is kind that he told you himself, and hopefully you'll stand to get one once business picks up again!
  • What a sucky week.  Hopefully things can only go up from there.
    Maybe you won't need cable if you go a month or so without the extra channels and don't miss them.
  • Tough blow, especially about the raise. But it is pretty cool that the big guy told you himself. And the fact that it still could happen if business picks up is a great plus. Here's hoping for a better end to your week!
  • Yuck. I really hope next week is better!
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  • If you were truly watching the broadcast channels, just go get yourself an antenna and hook them up to your TVs.  That should work unless you're just too far out.

    As for the job, if you truly love the job and want to stay without a raise, that's one thing.  But don't let the "I'm lucky to have a job" keep you from looking for other positions where you might be able to make more.

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  • I think you should be able to get over the air broadcast signals, but you need a digital converter. All stations are required to broadcast digital now, but you should be able to get the signal (without cable) if you have a converter. Here's the wikipedia entry on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_transition_in_the_United_States
  • That's a bummer about your raise.  I was sort of hoping that my company would do a holiday bonus in the form of cash, since that's what I need right now.  I received a $50 Target gift card from the two VPs we interact with, which is still nice since Target is awesome, but was a bit bummed.  Who knows, our last pay day is on Christmas so maybe something else will show up then from corporate.  

    My last company gave us $300 cash bonuses at Christmas so that's why I was expecting a bit more.  But, my old spot was a small locally owned company where everyone interacted with the owners daily.  Now I'm at a Fortune 500.  
  • jtmh2012 said:

    If you were truly watching the broadcast channels, just go get yourself an antenna and hook them up to your TVs.  That should work unless you're just too far out.

    As for the job, if you truly love the job and want to stay without a raise, that's one thing.  But don't let the "I'm lucky to have a job" keep you from looking for other positions where you might be able to make more.

    I might be using this term incorrectly.  I still have access to primary channels...like 2-13...though who knows how much longer that will be.  But its some of the higher channels that are now "digitalized".  I'm assuming I would not be able to get those, even with an antenna.  Plus I also want to be able to DVR stuff.  We're strongly considering just going without cable and using Hulu/Amazon Prime, even if that means we might lose access to some of the channels/shows we do really like that are not on Hulu.  Primarily the Food Network, HGTV, and the History Channel.

    It really just depends on what the cable options are but, the packages on their website do NOT look good.  It will cost $120/month MORE (plus the $60 we already pay for internet) just to receive what we were already getting for free.  No way.  I might have big crush on Robert Irvine from Restaurant Impossible, but it is not a $120/month crush, lol.

    Our local cable company (Cox Communications) are big "nickel and dimers".  It's not just the cable service, it's stuff like $6/month for each box.  Oh, you want to be able to DVR?  That's another $15/month.

    Thanks everyone for the sympathy and well wishes!

    @jtmh2012, it's primarily that I especially like this job that I'm hesitant to look for something else.  I've worked for horrible, soul-sucking companies and just don't want to find myself in that position again.  Probably not the most MM thing to do, but I just don't want to leave a good thing, especially if it turns out I would not have to.  Plus I do have other sources of income that will cover my expenses...though barely.  If it wasn't for that, I would be more pro-active in looking for something else.  

  • smerka said:
    I think you should be able to get over the air broadcast signals, but you need a digital converter. All stations are required to broadcast digital now, but you should be able to get the signal (without cable) if you have a converter. Here's the wikipedia entry on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_transition_in_the_United_States
    Depending on how old her TV is, she may not even need the converter. :)
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  • I would also look into Netflix.  I believe a lot of the HGTV and Food Network shows are on there.  They're not the newest seasons but better than nothing :)  They've also got a lot of USA Network shows.  
     
  • BlueBirdMBBlueBirdMB member
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    Bummer!  H didn't get a raise this year either- no one in his brand of the the company did.  Tough times.
  • I might be using this term incorrectly.  I still have access to primary channels...like 2-13...though who knows how much longer that will be.  But its some of the higher channels that are now "digitalized".  I'm assuming I would not be able to get those, even with an antenna.  Plus I also want to be able to DVR stuff.  We're strongly considering just going without cable and using Hulu/Amazon Prime, even if that means we might lose access to some of the channels/shows we do really like that are not on Hulu.  Primarily the Food Network, HGTV, and the History Channel.

    Yeah, so not broadcast. You were just lucky they hadn't encrypted/digitized the channels. :)

    As for the DVR, no reason why you couldn't DVR true broadcast channels.  You'd just need a DVR that would handle the OTA signals.

    Our local cable company (Cox Communications) are big "nickel and dimers".  It's not just the cable service, it's stuff like $6/month for each box.  Oh, you want to be able to DVR?  That's another $15/month.

    Oh how I miss Cox.  I used to have them and moved to a Comcast area.  They're so much worse. :(  I'm paying more now for the same service.

    @jtmh2012, it's primarily that I especially like this job that I'm hesitant to look for something else.  I've worked for horrible, soul-sucking companies and just don't want to find myself in that position again.  Probably not the most MM thing to do, but I just don't want to leave a good thing, especially if it turns out I would not have to.  Plus I do have other sources of income that will cover my expenses...though barely.  If it wasn't for that, I would be more pro-active in looking for something else.  

    There are things much more important than money and a job you enjoy doing is one of them.  I left a job I loved (it was going away anyway) for where I'm at now.  Partially because I knew the other job was ending, but also for the money.  I don't hate my job, but I don't love it either.  I only said what I said because a lot of times companies try to make you feel like you should be lucky to be employed to keep their employees from looking elsewhere.
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  • jtmh2012 said:
    I might be using this term incorrectly.  I still have access to primary channels...like 2-13...though who knows how much longer that will be.  But its some of the higher channels that are now "digitalized".  I'm assuming I would not be able to get those, even with an antenna.  Plus I also want to be able to DVR stuff.  We're strongly considering just going without cable and using Hulu/Amazon Prime, even if that means we might lose access to some of the channels/shows we do really like that are not on Hulu.  Primarily the Food Network, HGTV, and the History Channel.

    Yeah, so not broadcast. You were just lucky they hadn't encrypted/digitized the channels. :)

    From what my H said, they hadn't been allowed to encrypt the channels because of FCC regulations.  Except then the FCC removed those regulations.  And Cox was pretty quick about adding on that encryption as soon as they were allowed to.

    As for the DVR, no reason why you couldn't DVR true broadcast channels.  You'd just need a DVR that would handle the OTA signals.

    Our local cable company (Cox Communications) are big "nickel and dimers".  It's not just the cable service, it's stuff like $6/month for each box.  Oh, you want to be able to DVR?  That's another $15/month.

    Oh how I miss Cox.  I used to have them and moved to a Comcast area.  They're so much worse. :(  I'm paying more now for the same service.

    Haha, and I hate Cox, even beyond this latest maneuver.  But, although I've never had Comcast, they always seem to rank in the top 10 for worst customer service...and that's for all companies, not just cable ones.

    I've heard good things about AT&T U-Verse but, although it is offered in the suburbs with their newer wiring/infrastructure, that stuff is too old in most of NOLA itself (where I live) for them to be able to run their services.  So Cox has a monopoly for anyone who wants their cable/Internet together on the same service/bill.

    @jtmh2012, it's primarily that I especially like this job that I'm hesitant to look for something else.  I've worked for horrible, soul-sucking companies and just don't want to find myself in that position again.  Probably not the most MM thing to do, but I just don't want to leave a good thing, especially if it turns out I would not have to.  Plus I do have other sources of income that will cover my expenses...though barely.  If it wasn't for that, I would be more pro-active in looking for something else.  

    There are things much more important than money and a job you enjoy doing is one of them.  I left a job I loved (it was going away anyway) for where I'm at now.  Partially because I knew the other job was ending, but also for the money.  I don't hate my job, but I don't love it either.  I only said what I said because a lot of times companies try to make you feel like you should be lucky to be employed to keep their employees from looking elsewhere.
    Exactly!  To an extent, I'd rather be paid even a good bit less for a job I enjoy than earn top dollar at a job I hate.  And I was actually the one who said I felt lucky to have the job, the Big Boss didn't say or even imply that.  Though I know what you mean.  My city notoriously has low wages, even in good economic times, and that is often the attitude. 
  • Our local cable company (Cox Communications) are big "nickel and dimers".  It's not just the cable service, it's stuff like $6/month for each box.  Oh, you want to be able to DVR?  That's another $15/month.

    Oh how I miss Cox.  I used to have them and moved to a Comcast area.  They're so much worse. :(  I'm paying more now for the same service.

    I think cable companies are just terrible in general. I'm stuck with Cox...I literally live down the street from one of their headquarters, and my internet still drops consistently, even with a new modem and router. But we tried AT&T, and it was even worse, and more expensive for lower speed. I think cell phone carriers do the same nickel and dime-ing too.
  • Sling tv is only $20/month and has all the channels you mentioned plus a few more. Stream it on whatever you use to stream Netflix.
  • Update:  I buckled on the cable and signed up for their service.  Including all the "hoo haws" and "what nots" I have to "rent" (rolling eyes), it added $51/month to my cable bill.  Better than I was expecting and barely palatable for me.  Not "barely" money-wise at least, I can comfortably afford it, just barely in that now I am paying $51/month for something that was previously free.

    A lot of you are probably too young to remember this...I barely do.  But people used to have to "rent" their landline phones from the phone companies.  Yes, seriously.  They were proprietary to the system and you couldn't just buy phones.  I made this analogy to the guy who was helping me.  And we both laughed about how crazy that sounds nowadays.  But...umm, yeah dude...y'all are doing the same crazy thing.  Except right now.

    There are at least a few perks.  I now have "On Demand" service, which I like, and I can record up to 6 shows...whereas before it was two, and one of them had to be on an HD channel.  I also get a few more channels, though I'll only watch one of them. 

    @k3brad, thanks for the info.  I'll look into that once my "promo" rates expire in another year.

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