Pence?

smerka

So what do you all think of Trump's choice of Pence? I don't know much about him even though I live in IL. I think he gives Trump some credibility, but I still won't vote for him.

vlagrl35

I honestly don't know anything about him.  I've kinda been unfollowing politics.

vlagrl35

I have been keeping an open mind about it all though.  I'm watching convention coverage right now.

smerka

Melania's plagerism? Wow. Just wow. How did they not know?

vlagrl35

smerka said:

Melania's plagerism? Wow. Just wow. How did they not know?

I'm just now finding out about it but haven't read too much yet.  Did she have a speech writer I'm assuming?

eta - looks like it was 2 paragraphs

MommyLiberty5013

smerka said:

Melania's plagerism? Wow. Just wow. How did they not know?

Meh. Non-news as far as I'm concerned. First, the speech writer and Mrs. Trump sat down and discussed what Mrs. T wanted to say. In that meeting, Mrs. T made some remarks about how she liked FLOTUS' certain comments and how those remarks sounded/came across and how she'd like to send a similar message. The speech writer jotted this down and never went back to check it. But she put the notes in the speech. So, certainly poor writing and back-ground checking on the speech writer's part.

She offered her resignation, which Trump rejected.

Also, many politicians from both sides have "borrowed" things from one another. Even across the aisle. It can be fairly common. I don't think it's right to do so, however, the media frenzy over this topic is ridiculous. Obama has done this "speech borrowing" too.

It's just stupid that the media doesn't hold the same glaring light up to all speeches and lets many slide by regardless of content or possible "plagiarism."

Also, I think the Trump camp has enough venom toward the right and left establishments, that they wouldn't KNOWINGLY borrow from somebody's pervious speech.

I do believe that this was an honest mistake. Period. That said, I still don't like Trump. But, I have to call hog wash on all this media hype and hypocrisy.

smerka

So I wrote that post right after people found it. Not after all the analysis. I get that people steal from other speeches all the time. That's not my issue. She said to Matt Lauer earlier that day she didn't have any help (which I didn't really believe anyway. She is completely new to politics and likely giving speeches at all). Then Paul Manafort kept trying to insist that it was plagiarized after the side by side video was out. And thirdly, it is super easy to run something through software to see if it's been borrowed from something else. Teachers use it all the time. My issue is with the Trump campaign for letting it happen, not with Melania.  It makes them look really sloppy and careless at a time when they are supposed to be convincing the Republicans and the rest of us that he's prepared to be President. It was an epic fail. 

vlagrl35

MommyLiberty5013 said:

smerka said:

Melania's plagerism? Wow. Just wow. How did they not know?

Meh. Non-news as far as I'm concerned. First, the speech writer and Mrs. Trump sat down and discussed what Mrs. T wanted to say. In that meeting, Mrs. T made some remarks about how she liked FLOTUS' certain comments and how those remarks sounded/came across and how she'd like to send a similar message. The speech writer jotted this down and never went back to check it. But she put the notes in the speech. So, certainly poor writing and back-ground checking on the speech writer's part.

She offered her resignation, which Trump rejected.

Also, many politicians from both sides have "borrowed" things from one another. Even across the aisle. It can be fairly common. I don't think it's right to do so, however, the media frenzy over this topic is ridiculous. Obama has done this "speech borrowing" too.

It's just stupid that the media doesn't hold the same glaring light up to all speeches and lets many slide by regardless of content or possible "plagiarism."

Also, I think the Trump camp has enough venom toward the right and left establishments, that they wouldn't KNOWINGLY borrow from somebody's pervious speech.

I do believe that this was an honest mistake. Period. That said, I still don't like Trump. But, I have to call hog wash on all this media hype and hypocrisy.

yeah I don't think its a big deal either.

short+sassy

Warning, snarky attack:

Trump could chose someone like Mother Theresa for his running mate, and I still wouldn't vote for him, lol.  I don't know anything about his choice.

As for Melania's gaffe, I'm just impressed a trophy wife like that can even speak in multiple sentences all at one time.

I know this makes me sound prudish and stuffy, but I don't like the idea of the First Lady being a foreigner.  I hate even saying that.  I'm normally very UN-xenophobic.  But I can't help it.  I don't like it. 

MommyLiberty5013

short+sassy said:

Warning, snarky attack:

Trump could chose someone like Mother Theresa for his running mate, and I still wouldn't vote for him, lol.  I don't know anything about his choice.

As for Melania's gaffe, I'm just impressed a trophy wife like that can even speak in multiple sentences all at one time.

I know this makes me sound prudish and stuffy, but I don't like the idea of the First Lady being a foreigner.  I hate even saying that.  I'm normally very UN-xenophobic.  But I can't help it.  I don't like it. 

I understand what you mean. But, the USA is increasingly more global too, so it's fairly likely that (if we have more male/married POTUSs) the "Daughters of the American Revolution" types aren't going to be living in the WH in the near and distance future.