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Living on one income in PDX
With the wonderful economy, is anyone living on one income right now? I visit the money matters board frequently and there are SO many people who live on one income ALL the time and bank the second income in savings and I'm wondering how this is possible. What do you think a reasonable amount for a single salary would be to live here in portland? just curious and knowing that every situation is different. I'm talking enough for mortgage payments and a little bit of fun now and then but nothing crazy. Money is always such a big stresser for me.
Re: Living on one income in PDX
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I don't think the demographics of the Nest in general, and MM specifically, are a fair representation of most people in this country. A lot of those posters live in very LCOL areas and have mortgages WELL below $1000/month (I've seen several of them mention mtg payments in the $500-$700 range). And a lot of them just make a lot more money than average (lots of lawyers and at least one doctor over there). Anyway, my point is just that you shouldn't let the nest skew your perspective.
I agree with the PP; you'd need an income of around $80K+ to be comfortable around here.
Personally I think you could easily live on way less than $80k. We have lived very very well on $60k owning a home, having two car payments and eating out quite a bit. If we only had one car payment or perhaps lived in a condo vs. house and/or didn't have student loans and credit card debt we would have had tons more fun money. When you need to, you find tricks to saving money so you can still have a great time on one income. Right now is a great time to buy a house thats in Short Sale and get so much more for your money.
We lived very comfortably on DH's income during the 14 months that we were engaged (4 years ago). He made about $60k annually, we paid $600 for rent for a very cute brand new townhouse in SE Portland, we had a $300 a month car payment, and went out to eat every night, went shopping all the time, etc. My full time paycheck was direct deposited into a "wedding savings account" and we just saved it all for wedding expenses. I was making about $24k at that point, and we saved it all to pay for the wedding and honeymoon. It was great.
Now... it seems like it's impossible to do all that on TWO great incomes! The economy sucks. But we also have a huge mortgage, huge car payment, small boat payment, and are trying to buy all kinds of baby stuff and prepare for paid and unpaid maternity leave...
It just depends on your lifestyle, and what you like to buy and spend your money on. If you like to shop in Thrift stores and have an older car (or no car), you need less money. If you want a brand new car and a big house in a nice neighborhood, you're going to need more money to get by.
We're living on one income of about $70K, but we have to really stretch to make ends meet right now. Our problem is that we pay a lot in student loans every month (almost $700) and about $400 in credit card payments thanks to trying to pay for my DH's school out of pocket for a semester ($1400 a month on top of our rent and everything!). So, right now we're trying to juggle our finances, have some of my student loans deferred for a few months, and pay off our CCs and car (we have 4 months left) so we can finally start putting some money in savings every month. It would be nice to get ahead a little every month instead of barely breaking even.
We've cut back a lot. We only go out to eat about once every week or two and have almost completely stopped shopping for anything other than necessities (which stinks - I just lost 20 pounds and I want to buy new clothes so badly!!). We used to spend our date nights having sushi and watching a movie, now we're baking a Papa Murphy's pizza and playing cards at home.?
We're renting right now and pay $1150. I think we could swing a mortgage, but maybe not everything that comes with the upkeep of a house (taxes, repairs, water, electricity, etc.). It's really nice to not have to worry about how to pay for something if it breaks. ?
Once we get our cards paid off I want to start using a cash budgeting system. We tried it briefly with grocery money and I really liked it. I used to think that "if I have cash, I'll spend it so that wouldn't work" but when I looked in my wallet saw exactly what I could spend, I really thought about my purchases.?
This economy is so tough right now. The other day I was really feeling stressed and was crying in the kitchen with my DH but he reminded me how blessed we are even in the midst of this tight time. I'm so thankful that we're learning how to be responsible with our finances early on in our marriage before we have a couple of kids depending on us.?