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Can a family of 4 live in

san diego on 90k per year? thoughts? tia

Re: Can a family of 4 live in

  • That would depend on SO many factors.  Does this family have lots of cc debt?  Will any children need daycare?  How big of a home are they looking for?  How much are they willing to spend on rent?

    Even without knowing those things I would so it is absolutely possible, I am sure there are families here that live on a lot LESS than 90k.  It would all depend on what you were looking to get out of the city.

  • I don't have any kids (and I know they are expensive)but the biggest issue I would think you wold have here would be housing.  Like pp said it depends on if you going to buy, rent, what part of the city, etc.  San Diego is huge and the prices in Coronado are going to be a lot different than East Lake.  I don't have any kids but I think 90k is defintly doable as long as your morgage, rent, isnt out of hand for what you make. 
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  • Dh has an opportunity to move to several cities - one being sd but I don't know if we want to make the change since the col is so high.  I am a sahm and would continue to stay at home.  I think we could get by paying around 900-1,200 for rent - that is about our mortgage now.  We have no debt other than what we own on our home right now.  Does that help?  Just trying to decide if it would be worth it - he has the same opportunity in other cities - denver, minneapolis, miami , Houston- just not sure what the right decision is
  • That is a hard one.  Houston and Denver are much more affordable cities.  DH is from Denver and my boss is from Houston and has a lot of family that live there.  I mean, I LOVE SD but it is expensive here.  We own an condo and when we start looking at houses I get so frusterated because they are so expensive.  Since you don't have to pay for daycare and make 90k on top of that it is doable.  You just have to decide what kind of lifestyle you want.  I love it here and don't want to move but I also like nice things so I have to compromise somewhere.  Untill I get my dream job and make tons and tons of money.  :)
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  • Depends on the type of lifestyle you want.

     If you want an aparment that is only $1200 a month or less, you will most likely not be living in a nice area.
     

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  • I agree with RichinLove...you can find nicer places in older areas for about 1200 per month. But that is low. What you consider a nice neighborhood is in the eye of the beholder. We pay 2300 a month for an apartment and love the neighborhood we live in. So...I think that 90k is doable....but my DH and I could barely survive on that income here. We like to eat out occasionally, drive nicer cars and have some "fun money"... we would have to cut a lot of that out on 90k and we have no kids, no pets and only student loan debt.
  • If you want to get a glimpse at how much rent costs here you should check out craigslist.  $1200 won't get you very much and more than likely it will be way east or a not so nice neighborhood.
  • hi!  SAHM here and our rent is $1,200 a month (including a gardener/water & trash).  i think living here on 90k/year is doable, but it all depends on what kind of lifestyle you're used to having.  90k will absolutely get you more in Denver or Houston!

    we make more than 90k, have 0 debt, and still can't afford a home.  okay, let me clarify that by saying that we could afford a home, but our lifestyle would change drastically.  we travel quite a bit (a lot of our family lives out of state) and live comfortably, but we've definitely had to make some sacrifices.  our home is adorable (2 bed/1 bath), and the area we live in isn't bad (we live in East County near SDSU).  if you don't mind living a bit further East (say Santee) you could probably rent a larger place for about what we're paying.

    honestly, i love SD, and the people here are fantastic, but it's expensive.  i lived in Denver for 8 years before moving to SD and loved it there.  it's very family friendly & has some fantastic schools (depending on the area of course).  i don't know much about Houston, but a very good friend of mine moved there from SD in 95 because they couldn't afford to buy a home and raise their family here (they have 3 kids) and really liked it.  we sometimes talk about moving to a place where what we make could buy us so much more, but we love it here.  the weather, and the fact i can be at the beach in 10 minutes or skiing in 2 hours is a huge plus.

     

  • ps.  it wasn't easy finding a house where the rent is as low as ours is and includes what it does.  i searched for over a month and there were 5 other couples who wanted to rent our house but we beat them to it!  most of the homes in our area rent for at least $1,700/month (3bed/1bath), but you can find a place for $1,200 if you're patient and jump on it.  i found our house by driving around the neighborhood and the owner had just put up the "for rent" sign, but he also listed it on Craigslist.  i agree with pp about looking on Craigslist, that is a great place to start.

    also, keep in mind that neighborhoods here can be hit or miss.  you can be in a nice neighborhood for a bit then it turns bad, fast!  if you have any questions on a specific location just let us know!
  • You will be rich in Houston and poor here.
  • We're actually considering moving out of state because of the cost of living here.

    My DH and I only have 2 dogs for now, and we live in a 1 bedroom apartment, our rent is $1375 a month in a good (safe) area.

    We make more than the 90k like you said, but I just feel that we would be VERY limited if we buy a house here, our Mtg would probably be 2300 a month (at least), and just so that you get an idea pretty much everything is more expensive here, gas today is around $3.55, even the movies are almost 11 bucks (I've seen that in other places it's like 8).

    At least you're a SAHM, because, for instance my SIL who has a 2 yr old is paying 13k a year in child care.

    I would think very carefully about it. 

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  • I think it depends on your lifestyle choices. I think it would be very hard. I wish you all the best!
  • I've lived here all my life. So I'm telling you honestly, no. You would not have a very good quality of life living on 90k a year in San Diego for a family of 4. I wouldn't do it given the opportunity to move somewhere else.
  • Yes, a family of 4 CAN live in SD on 90K a year.  Thats similar to what DH and I made last year and after taxes, 401K, and health insurance we still brought home about 5K a month in cash. 

    You can find houses for rent in the north part of the county (escondido, san marcos, vista) for well under 2k a month.  There are even some 3 bed apts for around $1500-1800.

    You just have to be able to budget and learn to cut costs.  Basic budget breakdown
    2000 for Rent/Utilities etc
    500 for Gas (2 cars with 1 fill up a week at $40-$50 each)
    200-300 for Car Insurance (this could be higher or lower depending on # of cars)
    1000 for Food (Average of $250 a week)

    This adds up to $3800 a month for BASIC expenses IF your cars are all paid off and you arent wasting money leasing one.  It leaves you with about $1200 a month for misc items (clothes, cable, fun stuff, and emergencies).  

    There are plenty of people out here with kids who get by on a lot less than 90K a year.  It can be done but you have to save money and spend it wisely.  You dont need to buy a new car every 3-5 years.  You use stuff until it breaks or dies--if something breaks on the car would you rather spend $1000 to fix it or go $20,000 in debt for a new one?

  • Also forgot to add.....since we make just over that right now.

    DH and I currently support 2 households on that salary since I live in Escondido and he lives just outside of San Franciso.  So if we can support 2 households in 2 of the MOST expensive metropolitan areas of the state on just under 100k a year....it can be done!! Our budget breakdown
    940 Rent in Esco
    600 Rent in SFO
    250 Car Insurance (2 Volvos)
    200 Cable/Phone/Cell
    100 Cat
    600 Gas for both cars at $3.50-$4.00 a gallon
    100 Utilities
    80 401K loan repayment
    800 Food

    This leaves us with about 1300 a month for other stuff.  We still do fun things and go out to eat.  We lucked out and found a HUGE apartment for dirt cheap--its older and doesnt have all those fancy amenities that all the new complexes have but we like it.  We own our cars and have no plans to buy new ones for at least 5 more years.  We also have enough cash in savings to be able cover 6 months worth of bills if we both lost our jobs.

  • I agree that its totally doable too. 

    We make a little bit over that combined and have cut our budget to save 2k a month towards a down payment.  We still have fun, go out every weekend, cook great meals, make car/student loan payments, and have a 1600/month rent.  You may have to cut out some fun things but I dont think it would be very hard at all.  Being at SAHM helps a lot, we would have to stretch if we had to have child care...

    I have often contemplated moving somehwere else, but our options are a bit limited since SD one of the few hubs where DH can work (Biotech...)

    It all depends on your priorities....do you want to buy a house, have extra cash, live very comfortably...or live in a gorgeous place with perfect weather most of the year and the beach. :-) 
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