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J&K+8

I was a big fan of the show before all the drama started & didn't really want to pick sides but now the @sshole has a gf who's 22 & she's the daughter of the doctor who did Kates tummy tuck? Ick!!

Even though I think Kate is doing the show because she loves $ and the attention, I'm really think I'm becoming team Kate now.

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Re: J&K+8

  • Ever since they chose the show over their marriage and children, I refuse to even google their name, click on a link, or watch a rerun. Those poor kids.

     

    Forget camps; both Jon and Kate have proven that when the chips are down, they do what is best for them and them alone.  

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  • I refuse to follow J + K anymore. I kind of had a soft spot for Jon, thinking maybe he was the victim in this whole situation, but he's just as big of a douchebag as she is.  They should never get divorced, they deserve each other.
  • imageSarah05102009:

    Ever since they chose the show over their marriage and children, I refuse to even google their name, click on a link, or watch a rerun. Those poor kids.

     

    Forget camps; both Jon and Kate have proven that when the chips are down, they do what is best for them and them alone.  

    I do agree with that!

  • I've always been team Kate.  Yeah, she can be b!tchy, but Jon is a pr!ck I think.  The 23 year old looks more like 32, IMO =x
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  • imagelorimw1:
    imageSarah05102009:

    Ever since they chose the show over their marriage and children, I refuse to even google their name, click on a link, or watch a rerun. Those poor kids.

     

    Forget camps; both Jon and Kate have proven that when the chips are down, they do what is best for them and them alone.  

    I do agree with that!

    The last thing I watched was the "big announcement" episode, and it seems that each said "I'm doing the best thing I can for my kids" about a million times each.Yeah, that's crap. Bullshyt. If you really cared about your kids, you wouldn't be cheating on your spouse, giving up on your marriage, and continuing the show.

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  • The way this whole thing with them has panned out has really broken my heart. Even though Kate could be kind of mean, I was always under the impression that they loved each other. I did feel they were selfish to just keep going and going with the show, but I figured that in the next few years they would wise up, cancel it, and focus on letting the kids have a life without cameras. I feel like they really just gave up once the news about Jon came out. Instead of working to keep their marriage in tact through counseling, canceling the show, etc., they're doing the selfish thing. And reading that story about Jon this morning just disgusted me. I know Kate has her own issues, but man he is a total d-bag.

    And I'm with you Sarah, that's total bull-crap when they say they're doing what's best for the kids. Those kids are going to have more problems now with this on top of an already unusual lifestyle. Sad sad sad.

  • I'm trying to think of anything I care less about than this show and these people.

     

    Hmm.  Nope, I can't.

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  • I am going to say the smoking and drinking has aged her.

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    I think her age is real because her mug shot from Indiana University in 2005 is floating around the internet.

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  • imagelorimw1:

    I was a big fan of the show before all the drama started & didn't really want to pick sides but now the @sshole has a gf who's 22 & she's the daughter of the doctor who did Kates tummy tuck? Ick!!

    Even though I think Kate is doing the show because she loves $ and the attention, I'm really think I'm becoming team Kate now.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/track/star_tracks/view.bg?articleid=1184501&srvc=home&position=also

     

    I agree with how E! Online's story of this ended - sad - but true:

    "Jon coming on his own or Christian meeting him at an office in L.A. is not going to get them that much coverage," an insider says. "Jon walking around St.-Tropez in an Ed Hardy T-shirt with a new girlfriend on his arm is going to get them extra press inches, which is what they want."

  • I loved that show in the earlier seasons and it is just horrible to see how it all ended up. Like others have said they chose money and the show over their marriage and family. I feel horrible for the 8 kids who in the future will have the opportunity to watch their family break up over and over in re-runs. Sucky that Jon already has a girlfriend.
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  • imageacp927:
    And I'm with you Sarah, that's total bull-crap when they say they're doing what's best for the kids. Those kids are going to have more problems now with this on top of an already unusual lifestyle. Sad sad sad.

    You really think that just because a marriage works that kids will have less problem? Yes, divorces are nasty, and yes the kids will be affected, but I'd rather have happy parents living separately than two very unhappy parents setting a bad example of how marriage "is." I agree that it is sad, but it doesn't take a therapist watching that show to have seen it coming years ago. What's sad is that Americans love hearing this news, and although you may not continue watching the show, you are supporting the coverage they get by googling, reading, or watching every little detail (hmm, sounds like another celebrity in the news right now). Okay, off my soap box.

  • imageme2rean:

    imageacp927:
    And I'm with you Sarah, that's total bull-crap when they say they're doing what's best for the kids. Those kids are going to have more problems now with this on top of an already unusual lifestyle. Sad sad sad.

    You really think that just because a marriage works that kids will have less problem? Yes, divorces are nasty, and yes the kids will be affected, but I'd rather have happy parents living separately than two very unhappy parents setting a bad example of how marriage "is." I agree that it is sad, but it doesn't take a therapist watching that show to have seen it coming years ago. What's sad is that Americans love hearing this news, and although you may not continue watching the show, you are supporting the coverage they get by googling, reading, or watching every little detail (hmm, sounds like another celebrity in the news right now). Okay, off my soap box.

    Well I believe the show is the main problem for those kids. I was saying getting a divorce adds to the problem, but I didn't mean to contrast it to the situation of them staying together and being unhappy. What I do believe is if they canceled the show, focused on counseling and really and truly got their problems straightened out, that would help A LOT.

    You and perhaps some others may not agree with me, but I am a strong believer that most every marriage can survive when both couples are willing to work at keeping it together. If this was an abusive relationship I wouldn't think they would need to keep going necessarily, but obviously both of them are just being extremely selfish, and a lot can be solved just by remembering that love is about each other, not about themselves. 

    I also haven't Googled anything, I haven't watched the show since the first big story with Jon came out, and really don't want to keep up with it, but I did happen to read one story yesterday morning and then saw this post not too long after. You don't have to look for it, it's like Michael Jackson, it's just there. If you're not living under a rock you hear about it. The only extent in my caring about this family and their situation is that anytime I see a family crumble apart, it literally upsets me. To me this isn't celebrity gossip, it's a tragedy. I guess I'm just sensitive to these situations. 

  • imageacp927:
    imageme2rean:

    imageacp927:
    And I'm with you Sarah, that's total bull-crap when they say they're doing what's best for the kids. Those kids are going to have more problems now with this on top of an already unusual lifestyle. Sad sad sad.

    You really think that just because a marriage works that kids will have less problem? Yes, divorces are nasty, and yes the kids will be affected, but I'd rather have happy parents living separately than two very unhappy parents setting a bad example of how marriage "is." I agree that it is sad, but it doesn't take a therapist watching that show to have seen it coming years ago. What's sad is that Americans love hearing this news, and although you may not continue watching the show, you are supporting the coverage they get by googling, reading, or watching every little detail (hmm, sounds like another celebrity in the news right now). Okay, off my soap box.

    Well I believe the show is the main problem for those kids. I was saying getting a divorce adds to the problem, but I didn't mean to contrast it to the situation of them staying together and being unhappy. What I do believe is if they canceled the show, focused on counseling and really and truly got their problems straightened out, that would help A LOT.

    You and perhaps some others may not agree with me, but I am a strong believer that most every marriage can survive when both couples are willing to work at keeping it together. If this was an abusive relationship I wouldn't think they would need to keep going necessarily, but obviously both of them are just being extremely selfish, and a lot can be solved just by remembering that love is about each other, not about themselves. 

    I also haven't Googled anything, I haven't watched the show since the first big story with Jon came out, and really don't want to keep up with it, but I did happen to read one story yesterday morning and then saw this post not too long after. You don't have to look for it, it's like Michael Jackson, it's just there. If you're not living under a rock you hear about it. The only extent in my caring about this family and their situation is that anytime I see a family crumble apart, it literally upsets me. To me this isn't celebrity gossip, it's a tragedy. I guess I'm just sensitive to these situations. 

     

    Ditto this.  

  • I don't follow it but from what I read I'd be Team John, even with the new girlfriend. Any mother that would put her family through the drama that she's put them through just for money and fame shouldn't get any kind of public encouragement IMO. Although, I doubt that was a decision she made without John way back in the beginning so he's to blame too. Bah. I just wish they'd all go away and be done. Let those kids go back to leading as normal a life as possible.
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  • imageacp927:
    imageme2rean:

    imageacp927:
    And I'm with you Sarah, that's total bull-crap when they say they're doing what's best for the kids. Those kids are going to have more problems now with this on top of an already unusual lifestyle. Sad sad sad.

    You really think that just because a marriage works that kids will have less problem? Yes, divorces are nasty, and yes the kids will be affected, but I'd rather have happy parents living separately than two very unhappy parents setting a bad example of how marriage "is." I agree that it is sad, but it doesn't take a therapist watching that show to have seen it coming years ago. What's sad is that Americans love hearing this news, and although you may not continue watching the show, you are supporting the coverage they get by googling, reading, or watching every little detail (hmm, sounds like another celebrity in the news right now). Okay, off my soap box.

    Well I believe the show is the main problem for those kids. I was saying getting a divorce adds to the problem, but I didn't mean to contrast it to the situation of them staying together and being unhappy. What I do believe is if they canceled the show, focused on counseling and really and truly got their problems straightened out, that would help A LOT.

    You and perhaps some others may not agree with me, but I am a strong believer that most every marriage can survive when both couples are willing to work at keeping it together. If this was an abusive relationship I wouldn't think they would need to keep going necessarily, but obviously both of them are just being extremely selfish, and a lot can be solved just by remembering that love is about each other, not about themselves. 

    I also haven't Googled anything, I haven't watched the show since the first big story with Jon came out, and really don't want to keep up with it, but I did happen to read one story yesterday morning and then saw this post not too long after. You don't have to look for it, it's like Michael Jackson, it's just there. If you're not living under a rock you hear about it. The only extent in my caring about this family and their situation is that anytime I see a family crumble apart, it literally upsets me. To me this isn't celebrity gossip, it's a tragedy. I guess I'm just sensitive to these situations. 

    Ditto this. I am in the same camp - I refuse to Google or even click on a link, nevermind watch a rerun. They chose to make the show a priority over their marriage - they could have at least attempted to save their relationship. Well said Amy, I can't say it better.  

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  • imageacp927:
    You and perhaps some others may not agree with me, but I am a strong believer that most every marriage can survive when both couples are willing to work at keeping it together. If this was an abusive relationship I wouldn't think they would need to keep going necessarily, but obviously both of them are just being extremely selfish, and a lot can be solved just by remembering that love is about each other, not about themselves.   

    Well, of course a marriage would survive if both people are willing to work at it. That's what marriage is, but these people don't want to work on it because they see something greener on the other side. I only disagreed with your viewpoint on the kids. Once you have kids, you will understand a little better.

  • imageme2rean:
     

    You really think that just because a marriage works that kids will have less problem? Yes, divorces are nasty, and yes the kids will be affected, but I'd rather have happy parents living separately than two very unhappy parents setting a bad example of how marriage "is." 

    imageme2rean:
    Well, of course a marriage would survive if both people are willing to work at it. That's what marriage is, but these people don't want to work on it because they see something greener on the other side. I only disagreed with your viewpoint on the kids. Once you have kids, you will understand a little better.

     

    This right here makes it sound like you think the marriage was "destined" to be over. And yes, on the whole, I think  "because a marriage works that kids will have less problem(s)." Not in every circumstance, every time, but if kids are part of a family where the marriage is working, it is better for them. J&K had a chance, just like everyone else with a failing relationship, to work it out. They chose not to work it out. 

    As for the second thing I quoted, I think becoming a parent teaches one a lot of things. There are a lot of topics I can't discuss with parents because "I just don't get it." However, I think those of us without kids can understand the effects of a crappy relationship on children - this is a well-document social problem. I understand J&K had a crap marriage, but they should have worked on it. I'm guessing K was always a b!tch and J probably was missing his childhood - oh well. You made a promise, stick with, work out your problems, and be good parents. 

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  • I completely agree with Amy.

    I don't have to have kids to know how a parents' relationship affects kids.  Just because you have divorced parents' doesn't mean the parents get along.  So not only will the kids have to face a committment issue, they will now have to deal with parents who could potentially bad-mouth each other; not to mention having peers give them a hard time about it at school or wherever.

    At least together, J&K would at least have made a committment to work on their marriage and given their kids reassurance that even through tough times things can be worked out.  If they really cared about their family, they would cancel their show and get out of the spotlight to focus on their family.  Now the kids will probably still be stuck in the spotlight but with a huge negative air about it.  I so far have seen no positive thing coming out of this separation for these kids. 

  • imageSarah05102009:
    imageme2rean:
     

    You really think that just because a marriage works that kids will have less problem? Yes, divorces are nasty, and yes the kids will be affected, but I'd rather have happy parents living separately than two very unhappy parents setting a bad example of how marriage "is." 

    imageme2rean:


    Well, of course a marriage would survive if both people are willing to work at it. That's what marriage is, but these people don't want to work on it because they see something greener on the other side. I only disagreed with your viewpoint on the kids. Once you have kids, you will understand a little better.

     

    This right here makes it sound like you think the marriage was "destined" to be over. And yes, on the whole, I think  "because a marriage works that kids will have less problem(s)." Not in every circumstance, every time, but if kids are part of a family where the marriage is working, it is better for them. J&K had a chance, just like everyone else with a failing relationship, to work it out. They chose not to work it out. 

    As for the second thing I quoted, I think becoming a parent teaches one a lot of things. There are a lot of topics I can't discuss with parents because "I just don't get it." However, I think those of us without kids can understand the effects of a crappy relationship on children - this is a well-document social problem. I understand J&K had a crap marriage, but they should have worked on it. I'm guessing K was always a b!tch and J probably was missing his childhood - oh well. You made a promise, stick with, work out your problems, and be good parents. 


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    This time I ditto Sarah. J&K are making a choice to be selfish, and I believe this choice is affecting their children a lot more than if they continued their marriage (so long as they worked on their marriage, because I certainly don't believe they should have continued having a crappy marriage and don't believe I ever indicated such a thing). I don't think I have to be a parent to understand that. Kate promised her kids that she and Jon would never get a divorce, so by divorcing, now their kids will feel betrayed and lied to. If they had a struggling marriage but their kids could see the parents trying to work it out, they would at least see their parents trying the best they can to stick to their commitment to each other and to their children.

  • imageshexmix:

    I'm trying to think of anything I care less about than this show and these people.

    Hmm.  Nope, I can't.

    Ditto.  Who really cares?  I've watched the show maybe twice and didn't really see the point of it - and I don't see the point in going nuts over them now because of their divorce.  Like those poor kids don't have enough problems now.

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