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Any state workers here not getting paid?
My DH is one of them. He was handling it pretty well for the first week or so but he's getting increasingly aggrevated. He's especially mad because work is placing a lot of demands on him right now! Also he's hearing that there will be no raises for 3 years for non-union workers and some people might be laid-off.
I know he's getting like 70% of his regular pay this week but he's still not happy!
Just wanted to vent for him and see if others are in the same boat!
Re: Any state workers here not getting paid?
Neither myself or DH is but some good friends of us are...one is our immediate neighbor who is a single woman in her late 40's, another neighbor who's wife is pg and due in sept with their first child, and I have a co-worker at work who's hubby is to retire this fall from the state.
I feel so bad for everyone involved.
I'm one of them. But I'm kinda tired of everyone bitchin'. We're not going without pay, our pay is just delayed. It is what it is, so there's no use demonstrating or whining.
We had plenty of advance warning that this was coming, and the arrangements provided by the banks & credit unions are unbelievably generous. Even if you don't need the free loan money (assuming you qualify for it, of course), it makes financial sense to take it, invest it for how ever long you can keep it, then pay it back at zero percent.
I do sympathize with the people living paycheck to paycheck who don't qualify for the loans, however.
And there will be layoffs. It's unfortunate, but that's the reality of balancing a budget during tough economic times. But if there's any good news in this, those who are laid off will qualify for unemployment.
I disagree. I don't think it is fair they aren't getting paid and they have every right to complain. MIL is one of them not getting paid and they don't like to take loans because they always have issues because FIL's brother stole FIL's identity and they always have issues. It is causing them issues. She probably won't lose her job, but if there are any job cuts in her area she was last hired so she would be the first cut in her dept. I also don't think it is good any time to take loans "just because", even if it is at zero percent. It is still debt that they don't need and it isn't their fault they aren't getting paid and would have to take a loan in the first place.
ITA...our friend (the one with the pg wife) was worried months ago after hearing that some employees were going to get laid off in June or July so the fact that he still has a job is a good thing. He's only worked for the state for 2 years or so and was originally told that people there under 3 years were on the chopping block. Hopefully after the dust settles he'll still have a job. Liz is definitely right though that the banks are being quite generous in this situation. I feel bad for the couples who both work for the state and live paycheck-to-paycheck.
I completely disagree. A delay in pay is a huge burden for most people. Kudos to you for being financially on the ball, but the vast majority of people are not. They have every right to complain all they want. It is totally irresponsible of our state government to not have some sort of stop gap measure in place to make sure employees are paid on time until the stupid congressmen get their asses in gear.
Both of my parents (my mom and stepdad) work for the state and are not getting paid and it is a huge financial toll on them even with the loans. I also think that living on loans is not ever a prudent financial decision.
Honestly your attitude really irritates me.
hello bag of worms...
DH is a state worker and isn't getting paid. It is annoying, but it has happened the past few years so we are prepared. We look at it as just part of the job at this point and save up because we know that there is always the chance that we will have to go without his paycheck this time of year.
IMO I think it is hurting the local economy because we are not spending any extra money just in case this goes on for months. We almost bought some furniture last weekend but decided to wait because it looks like there is currently no end in sight and we know the furniture store will have another sale (unless they go out of business). I am sure we are not the only ones who are doing this, and given the concentration of state employees in our area I am sure it is going to hurting local vendors. Needless to say this is not hurting our fall vacation plans, I booked that yesterday.
I too am getting tired of hearing about it. I don't understand why they don't pay everyone now since they will get paid eventually. There must be some technical reason that I am too lazy to look up, but it is just not logical. This would never fly in private industry. Ed Rendell was dead to me after the primary, but now he is really making me mad (and I did not know that was possible). I did not enjoy the spin they did on him on NPR this morning. I hope all these politicians are remembering that in central PA everyone is related to a state worker and we vote.
The credit unions (especially PSECU, not sure if there are more) are not giving out these interest free loans just for the heck of it. They realize that the majority of their mortgage and loan holders are state employees and if they don't do something to help tide people over it will cause major problems for them in a few months. If this went on for two or three months they would have a surge of defaults kick-in and it would be a nightmare for them. I think it is very prudent of them and they come out looking like the good guy (that they are). I am not a banker, but I assume people who do not qualify for zero interest loan would likely not qualify for a regular loan through the credit union and therefore are little of concern to the credit union as potential defaulter on one of their loans.
Not sure how what I wrote was misinterpreted again, but to clarify: I'm talking about taking free money and investing it temporarily for personal profit, not "living on loans."
To each her own, ladies!
Honestly neither is not being prepared with some sort of emergency fund for something like this . . state worker or not. I couldn't imagine being in the state workers situation but at the same time I also couldn't imagine not being prepared for it either. I guess that's just reality for some people though unfortunately. I do not envy their situation and wish the government would get their act together quickly.
That is a good idea. Any ideas for an investment that will yield a hirer return than a money market? Right now our money market interest would not make all the paperwork worthwhile.
I was away all weekend, so I'm late on this, but I really wanted to throw my two cents in here. I work for the state so I'm not getting paid. While I'm not thrilled about the situation, I prefer what they're doing this year to previous years. I'd rather keep working and know that the money is coming eventually than get laid off until they pass the budget. I guess that's easy for me to say, though, since we have some savings and I shouldn't have a problem qualifying for the PSECU loans. If they did the layoffs this year like they have done in previous years at least people would get UC right away. Plus, if state services were shut down, they would have a lot more pressure to pass the budget right away. Since having us work and not paying us violates federal law, I'll be interested to see if anything comes of it. Ultimately, there's nothing I can do so I'm trying not to think too much about it. We're faced with this every year. It comes with the job and at this point, I'm just lucky that I have one.
I think this is a great idea! Once the budget is passed, you don't have to owe it back for 60 days (I believe). I work in Human Resources. As for those worried about being furloughed, I wouldn't be too concerned. More then likely they'll be taking the vacant positions first. The only ones that I'd be worried about at this time are the rest of the Mayview SH employees, Scotland School employees and Scranton School employees. There are a few that still haven't been placed, but most are obsorbed threw our agency and others.