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But lying to your kid is fun.

<1000, of course - Dan's parents didn't do Santa because it was lying to their kids.

I've heard other people say this. First of all: it's Santa. It's not telling the kid that their goldfish wanted to go out to sea, or that if they make faces it'll freeze that way. It's a magic story, a fairy tale, something amazing that only happens at Christmas - and only for a little while. I think it's cruel to celebrate Christmas and not have Santa - and when you tell one 5-y-o that Santa's not real, guess what? He'll ruin it for all the other 5-y-olds.

Secondly: Lying to your kids is fun. Oh, I'm sure someone will tell me how I'm warping my child, but she's a cynic, like me, and I can't really put anything over on her. But it's fun to watch her suspicious little face when I tell her beans will grow in her ears or that jumping around after 7 wakes up the elves who live in the attic. If you're not lying to your kids, are you ever telling them stories? Believing their stories? Saving a space at the table for their imaginary friends? Plenty of play is "lying" - it's imaginary, just like Santa. Are you trying to tell your kids that imagination is wrong?

We do Santa. We do Santa with just a few presents, because that's how Santa works for our family. If we were wealthier, we'd still only give a few presents, because that's all she needs, and that's not the point of Christmas, anyway. I don't think the problem is with Santa - I think <1000's issue is with overconsumption, which is a valid concern. But blaming other families' spending habits on Santa, and then not celebrating Santa because of it - That's some effed up "logic", right there.

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Re: But lying to your kid is fun.

  • Exactly how I feel!
  • I didn't believe in Santa as a child. Both parents tried to get me to, and I played along, because I thought we were playing make-believe, but Santa had Mom's hand writing, and used Mom's wrapping paper, and Mom's gift tags, and Mom's same pen.

    I would totally let my kids believe in Santa. I think the idea behind it - the original idea - is neat, and it's a magic that should get to exist, if only for a few years. 

     Her problem is that she's 8 shades of crazy. She replaced her drug use with her addiction to stupid. 

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  • I see nothing wrong with Santa, and I see nothing wrong with lying to your kids. 
  • related story: I showed neice how to pinky swear. We made some promise and we "pinky swore" on it. I asked her if she knew what would happen if you broke a promise and she said no. I told her all of your hair falls out and that way, everyone knows you are a liar because you are bald and no one will trust you again, ever.

    She is very vain, even at three - so you can imagine the response this elecited. Her eyebrows hit the roof!

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  • Except now she's going to think cancer patients and old men are liars. Nice going, MinM!!
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  • I still do stockings for my 3 kids, 2 are married and their spouses get 1 too. My 2 granddaughters, everybody. I ALWAYS use a seperate "santa only" roll of paper, and write with sharpie on them in writing that looks nothing like mine. My kids believed for quite awhile, now its fun for the granddaughters.
  • *I* still get Santa presents.  Not every year, but if I've been very good, sometimes he leaves me something at my mother's house.  My children, and my son's girlfriend, all get stockings and gifts from Santa.  Because Santa is cool like that. 
  • imageButter Cookie:

    I didn't believe in Santa as a child. Both parents tried to get me to, and I played along, because I thought we were playing make-believe, but Santa had Mom's hand writing, and used Mom's wrapping paper, and Mom's gift tags, and Mom's same pen.

    I would totally let my kids believe in Santa. I think the idea behind it - the original idea - is neat, and it's a magic that should get to exist, if only for a few years. 

     Her problem is that she's 8 shades of crazy. She replaced her drug use with her addiction to stupid. 

    That is the entire reason "Santa" never wrapped presents or put tags on the presents at my house. I could forge their handwriting before I stopped believing.

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