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Vaginismus

Hi, I'm new here, but I quietly watch from the sidelines a lot.

 Anyways, ever since my husband and I got married it has been very painful for me every time we have sex. We had sex before we got married with no issues (he was my first but I wasn't his) but we stopped about 8 months before because it was a rule of our pastor if we wanted him to marry us.

 Ever since the wedding it has been very painful for me. I went and had my annual gyno appointment and I spoke with my dr, but she was honestly no help. I told her about the pain I had, how it didn't matter what part of my cycle it was, how it wasn't a pain I had previously and she brushed me off without really giving me any advise or answers.

After doing research I ran across vaginismus and reading about it and stories of other women, it's like my words were stolen from me. I feel this is what I have and I was just wondering if there was anyone else out there who had this. Advise? Wisdom? A few words of comfort? I don't think i have to tell anyone how much of a failure it is to want to have sex but can't because of intense pain. I feel like a failure of a wife, and my husband is wonderful. He tells me that it doesn't matter, our relationship is about more. But, I know he has needs and I *want* to be able to not only fulfill them, but to ENJOY it.

 So does anyone have any information or advise or anything to give me hope?

Sorry this was such a novel

Re: Vaginismus

  • Following the program from vaginismus.com helped me a lot - as well as the message boards there. The women there are very positive and helpful. There's no need to be shy or ashamed there. My advice to you is to buy the kit from vaginismus.com and get to working on it when you feel comfortable. Your husband seems very supportive and that will be a HUGE help.

    Since you've had sex pain free previously, you should be able to get there again. It will be a mind over matter battle, but it's worth it of course. For me, sex is still somewhat of a challenge - but just the fact that I know what's going on now makes all the difference in the world. If I'm feeling uncomfortable to begin with, I just ask my husband to back up for a minute while I try to relax muscles and we go from there. It's when you tense up because it hurts but try to push through it that creates a snowball effect.

  • I saw the kit online last night but I was weary to put down a full $100 just because the website sang it's praises. It's good to hear that it helped you. Thanks for the kind words and reassurance. I will have to look into the kit more.
  • go to a new gyno and ask for them to prescribe you a cream called Estrace...you apply it down there before you go to bed. It helped me a lot. Also, make sure you are REALLY turned on before having intercourse and use lots of extra lube.
  • First off, I would find a new gynecologist that listens to you and discusses treatment options. Painful sex can be caused by *so* many different factors--many of which can be eliminated with minor treatment. Please do yourself a favor and get a second opinion and new doc!

    I've heard great things about the vaginismus.com website and program. Something you may want to pursue alongside this is pelvic floor PT. Talk to a doc about this.

    Good luck!

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  • One word: Lidocaine. I have vestibulodynia (same thing pretty much) and lidocaine gel has saved me. You apply it where the pain is 15-20 minutes before having sex and it numbs the area. Sex used to hurt for up to an hour afterwards. With the lidocaine I don't have any pain (as long as I apply enough gel to the right areas and wait the full 15 to 20 minutes) and sex is enjoyable again. You can also try low dose cyclic antidepressents. I haven't since I'd rather not be taking pills for it every day but it works for some people. I would suggest seeing another GYN and asking about lidocaine.
  • imagellizzyb:

    First off, I would find a new gynecologist that listens to you and discusses treatment options. Painful sex can be caused by *so* many different factors--many of which can be eliminated with minor treatment. Please do yourself a favor and get a second opinion and new doc!

    I've heard great things about the vaginismus.com website and program. Something you may want to pursue alongside this is pelvic floor PT. Talk to a doc about this.

    Good luck!

    Agree, 100%.  It took me 3 gynos to find one who would listen.  She prescribed pelvic floor PT.  After about 6 months, we were having pain free sex again.

    I've tried the lidocaine thing, and I don't get it.  First, it burns when you apply it (no fun!).  Second, it's only treating the symptom, not the problem.  The PT treats the problem, which for us has been the long term solution.

    Find a gyno who will listen.

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  • After reading the other replies you've got here, I wanted to add another vote for finding a gyno that will listen. I spent about 6 years trying to talk to doctors that told me to "relax, have a glass of wine...Use lots of lube....Take this antibiotic....take this antifungal....some women just take longer to get turned on "properly'...(and my favorite) The more sex you have, the less it will hurt, so just do it." Oy!

    I finally found a good gyno and her wonderful, wonderful NP who actually listened to me. Then ran all the proper tests looking for out of the ordinary infections and hormonal imbalances and skin disorders. They found that my vaginal tissues were generally irritable and thin (I think, because of years of birth control pills) and prescribed Estrace cream to use topically. And I did the program through vaginismus.com in conjunction with the Estrace treatment...with full disclosure to my doctor. Also, not saying this is for everyone...but getting off of the Pill helped me out tremendously. I'm not constantly dry and chapped feeling anymore.

    So, yes, $100 for the packet from vaginismus.com seems like a lot...but I spent WAY more than that treating all the wrong things for years and years on end.

  • wow, I never heared of this but just looked it up and now I wonder if I have that. I thought my tightness and pain was from my lack of libido but maybe it's the other way around??? This is giving me hope
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  • I just finished up 6 months of work with a physical therapist and am now pain-free (and actually got pregnant in Oct., though I miscarried last week).  I have gone to so many doctors who told me to have a glass of wine and relax - finally went to a urogynecologist in May who really listened to me and she hooked me up with a pelvic floor physical therapist.  I used the dilators from vaginismus.com.  If you had intercourse in the past, you may have "secondary vaginismus" and it could be caused by something other than muscle spasms (like vulvar vestibulitis), which would need a different method of treatment.  My best advice is to not give up trying to find a doctor who will listen to you and help you out!!
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  • I second the urogynecologist, best thing I ever did.
  • imagesbragg87:

    Hi, I'm new here, but I quietly watch from the sidelines a lot.

     Anyways, ever since my husband and I got married it has been very painful for me every time we have sex. We had sex before we got married with no issues (he was my first but I wasn't his) but we stopped about 8 months before because it was a rule of our pastor if we wanted him to marry us.

     Ever since the wedding it has been very painful for me. I went and had my annual gyno appointment and I spoke with my dr, but she was honestly no help. I told her about the pain I had, how it didn't matter what part of my cycle it was, how it wasn't a pain I had previously and she brushed me off without really giving me any advise or answers.

    After doing research I ran across vaginismus and reading about it and stories of other women, it's like my words were stolen from me. I feel this is what I have and I was just wondering if there was anyone else out there who had this. Advise? Wisdom? A few words of comfort? I don't think i have to tell anyone how much of a failure it is to want to have sex but can't because of intense pain. I feel like a failure of a wife, and my husband is wonderful. He tells me that it doesn't matter, our relationship is about more. But, I know he has needs and I *want* to be able to not only fulfill them, but to ENJOY it.

     So does anyone have any information or advise or anything to give me hope?

    Sorry this was such a novel

    My gyno thought I had this too & advised me to switch to fragrance free soaps and laundry detergents...pretty much anything that would touch the lady bits. That didn't help. After a while, I did some research and found out that the antibiotic I had been taking for almost 6 months (for acne) was causing the problem. It was pure chance that I looked it up. I turned out to be just one of a very small percentage of women that it happened to. The one I was on was called Doryx. When I stopped taking it...problem fixed! Just thought I might let you know so that you could check any meds you might take or change anything else. I hope you find the trigger! GL!

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  • I am so glad that I am not the only person who suffers with this! You have secondary vag. I am able to have sex, but it's still painful, I still have the primary vag, since I have not yet overcome it. I didn't order the kit even though I was tempted to. And honestly, I wouldn't if you have been able to have sex before. It's (mainly) for women who have never had sex/inserted tampons/had an exam before. My OBGYN suggested buying a tiny width vibrator. The smallest I think you can get is from .5-1.0 inch I believe, not sure, but it doesn't matter the length. The vibrator is the same thing as the dilators pretty much.

    Use tons and tons of lube. I am very very dry down there and we have to keep applying lube during sex, around 3-5 times during sex. It's annoying, but so worth it, if we don't I burn down there for hours during the sex and afterwards. Also, try to get as turned on as possible before sex. Use the vibrator by yourself first, with lube. That might sound weird and uncomfortable to you, but trust me, it will work. I would use the vibe as much as possible, but at least once every other day..this will train your PC muscles to get used to sex. Also, read up on it online. The website: http://www.vaginismus-awareness-network.org/  the best site I could find.

    And join a yahoo support group : they have both a primary and secondary vaginismus. If you need anything at all, message me, and I will be glad you help. GL to you 

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  • I feel like this thread is dead but just thought I'd add my $.02:

    1. ITA that you need to find a gyno who will listen to you. I had similar (worse) issues and doctors that brushed off the issue just made me feel like more of a failure.

    2. Even though this was the case for me, I don't think that the dilator kit is just for women who have never been able to have sex/insert tampons, etc. The purpose of the dilators is to slowly stretch and retrain the muscles. It's also great if you have anxiety relating to the pain that causes you to tense up even more.

    p.s. I'm not sure if this was a fluke or not, but I actually got my dilator kit for free because my gyno's office had some for display purposes. It doesn't hurt to ask!

  • I was just married the end of June and never heard of vaginismus until my honeymoon... when we weren't able to have sex and discovered this was the problem.  When I had my first physical a year before my wedding the GYN was unable to complete a vaginal exam but never really explained why... this does.  I've ordered the entire kit from vaginismus.com but have had little luck with it.  I am not emotionally strong enough to deal with it all alone, I don't think.  I am currently researching Botox treatments to help vaginismus, unfortunately it means I'd have to go to NY to get treatment.  Good luck to you!
    P.S. I know the kit is expensive, but if you think you can do it, no price is too much to pay for your intimacy with your husband!
  • Does anyone know if there is a doctor in NY doing the botox treatment? I thought it was only the doctor in NH.
  • I have vaginismus which I'm told stems from sexual abuse. Counseling helped a great deal. When I was able to release traumatic memories by speaking about them, I was able to enjoy lovemaking a lot more. 

    Having a gentle and patient partner helped me the most; lots of foreplay and starting out slowly at first. The way my husband takes his time with me is one of the reasons he is my best lover. I notice that because my husband doesn't badger me into sex or get upset when I say no, I feel so safe with him in bed. I never really felt that sense of safety and tenderness with any of the other men I've slept with.  

    If you decide to use the kit, it could be very helpful to involve your husband. Try taking a warm bath before you use the kit or attempt intercourse. 

    Feel free to send me a private message if you would need to talk more. 


  • edited December 2014
    I had always had vaginismus. I could never use tampons, could never have proper sex (even though i had a crazy sex drive and really wanted it). I tried the dilators from vaginismus.com and it didn't work. 

    What finally worked was something called the vagiwave. I was cured in 3 weeks. I know it sounds too good to be true, and that's what i thought, but i went ahead and tried it. it's amazing. You just insert it before you sleep. it's very small, made of silicon and has a wavy design so you can put in a little bit at a time if necessary. for me, it went right in which was surprising since I'd  never been able to insert a tampon. 

    After the 3 weeks, I was still sceptical but i had a period and was able to put in a tampon for the first time in my life. Shorty after I had a gyno exam with no pain, and then was able to have pain free sex for the first time ever like a 'normal' woman. Finally, I have the sex life i've always wanted and it's as if I never had a problem!  

    They don't ship to the US but if there is any woman in the US who would like to try it I'm happy to ship it to you (if you just buy it from the website). I wish every woman who has vaginismus knew about it! 

    Also, there is amazing support from the team there. Almost daily e mails and they helped me when i was having doubts. 

    Please PM me if you want to talk about it. It's really transformed my life and I want this for all women who suffer with vaginismus!
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