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Re: Growing up. "Girl gets 90 lashes"

for bringing a cell phone to school. That's messed up. (Regardless of their culture.)

A teenage girl in Saudi Arabia has been sentenced to 90 lashes and two months in prison for taking a cell phone to school, the U.K.'s Daily Mail reported Wednesday.

The 13-year-old's punishment, harsher than that given to some robbers and looters, requires her to be flogged in front of her classmates, the Daily Mail quoted Saudi newspaper Al-Watan.

She was reportedly hiding a cell phone in class, breaking strict Saudi regulations banning their use in girls' schools.

Saudi Arabia is the world's leading country in the use of torture-by-flogging, and religious police keep a close watch over public behavior, the Mail reported.

In September, twenty Saudi teenagers who ransacked shops and restaurants were flogged in public.

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Re: Re: Growing up. "Girl gets 90 lashes"

  • I wonder if it'd have gotten the same punishment if it were a boy bringing a cell phone.
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  • I'm impressed they let girls have cell phones in SA. Won't they start calling for help or wanting to drive or something? It'll be the END OF THE WORLD.

     

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  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    I wonder if it'd have gotten the same punishment if it were a boy bringing a cell phone.

    You have to wonder?

  • Am I the only one who doesn't feel sorry for the girl?  I'm assuming that she knew the penalty for bringing a cell phone.
  • imageAuntFlo:
    Am I the only one who doesn't feel sorry for the girl?  I'm assuming that she knew the penalty for bringing a cell phone.

    Sorry it to a while to come back to this. It's definately not that I don't think she should be reprimanded if she was told not to bring a cell phone to school and she did it anyway. I'm thinking along the lines of: Does the punishment fit the crime?

    It just seems that 90 lashings is a bit severe, ya know? 

    For example: Cell phones were eventually banned by the time I was a senior in HS. For an AP science class, we would go on field trips that only lasted a couple hours so students could drive. So that day, I took a cell phone since I was driving. It was really an honest mistake that I forgot it was in my backpack. A teacher saw it, confiscated it, and suspended me for a day.  

    I had never even once been suspended or in major trouble at school. My mother had to go to the school to get the phone back and told the principle the reason I had it, but they didn't budge. A rule is a rule.

    In that case, it just seems the punishment fits the crime. That was long, sorry, but if you read it all that may make where i'm coming from more sense?

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  • imageAuntFlo:
    Am I the only one who doesn't feel sorry for the girl?  I'm assuming that she knew the penalty for bringing a cell phone.

    I just kinda gaped when I read this.

    yes, she was stupid.

    But there's a reason that we don't punish children as adults most of the time...because they're NOT adults.  You don't put 12 YOs in the electric chair because their brains aren't formed enough to make good decisions all the time.

    You don't put a punishment that's more severe than that for shoplifting or rape on a kid because of doing something stupid and juvenile.

    (especially when said stupid, juvenile thing was breaking a rule set foth by a draconian system that happens to be in place *only* for girls...because apparently boys don't get beaten for this.)

  • imageAuntFlo:
    Am I the only one who doesn't feel sorry for the girl?  I'm assuming that she knew the penalty for bringing a cell phone.

    I think the penalty is extreme, but I agree with you. She brought this on herself. I don't see why a 13yo needs a cell phone anyways...

  • This is way too severe.  Especially for a 13 y.o.  At that age, you don't always really appreciate the consequences of your decisions and make questionable ones--isn't that why 13 y.o.'s can't drive, vote, etc.?  Isn't that why we have juvenile courts--because we recognize that children don't have the same ability to think rationally that adults do, so we adjust their punishment accordingly?

    90 lashes would be out of line against an adult, but against a child, it's really unconscionable.  Punish her for breaking a rule, sure.  But not like this. 

  • I have to wonder though if it was said beforehand what the punishment would be.

    Did they say, "If you bring a cell phone to school you will be in trouble." And then the punishment was doled out after the offense.

    Or did they say, "If you bring a cell phone to school you will receive 90 lashes."

     

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