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Olympic Ice Dancers "from" Japan
They were born in the US and live in the US. Their mother is Japanese. They started skating for Japan because they weren't good enough to make it when competing against US ice dancers. So now they are competing in the Olympics for a country they have never even lived. To me this just seems wrong and maybe even unethical. Any thoughts??? Do people do this in other sports?
(I know people currently living and training in another country often skate for their country of birth. I get this and think it is completely fine.)
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Re: Olympic Ice Dancers "from" Japan
Well, it's within the rules, so I guess the rules are the problem.
Their sister skates for Georgia and hasn't even been there.
I can kind of understand that though when it is so difficult to find a partner (I believe she was skating single before they were paired). At least her partner is from the country they are representing.
I guess I assumed there was an unwritten rule that this is frowned upon.
It is snarked upon, but not really frowned upon. The International Skating Union implemented some roadblocks to changing affiliation on a whim several years ago, but it hasn't deterred too many people who felt that this is their only way to compete at the world level.
I think this is even worse. It sounds like she has no connection with the Georgia.
I think competing for another country if you have family connections is somewhat common. I do not really know how it works in figure skating but I know soccer players sometimes do this. However there rules that once you play for one nation you can not just switch to another just because you want to.
If it's okay with the ultimate authorities on this, then it's okay with me.
I could imagine doing something like this if my dream was to be an Olympian and my only real option for that was to be partnered up with someone from another country and take on that country's citizenship. And from what I've read, this is not uncommon for Georgia to do because they want to have a decent Olympics record and have wooed people from other countries in the past and given them citizenship quickly.
<a href="http://www.thenest.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=HTML&utm_campaign=tickers" title="Home DThere are a lot of athletes that are doing that. Its just another way they can compete.
There's a Jamaican Skier, that lives in Seattle, the only reason he's competeing for Jamaica is because his father was born there.
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Theres a moguls skiier who was born and raised in Canada and moved to Australia when he was 15 and competes for them
there's Japanese skater who moved to russia to skate with a specific coach and is paired with a Russian guy.
There is also a woman who was born in canada who skates for the US with an american guy.
I think it happens more with skating than anything else.
I think you I think it shows questionable integrity if you are competing for another country for the sole purpose of making it to the Olympics. JMO. I can understand competing for the country you were born, raised in, or lived in for a significant period of time. It you are paired with someone from another country you obviously must pick one to represent so I don't really have a problem with that either. If you can't make it to the Olympics because the competition is better than train harder, but don't compromise your integrity. I hardly consider these people true Olympians.
I think you I think it shows questionable integrity if you are competing for another country for the sole purpose of making it to the Olympics. JMO. I can understand competing for the country you were born, raised in, or lived in for a significant period of time. It you are paired with someone from another country you obviously must pick one to represent so I don't really have a problem with that either. If you can't make it to the Olympics because the competition is better than train harder, but don't compromise your integrity. I hardly consider these people true Olympians.
This is actually quite common. When Tanith Belbin first started competing with Ben she was still a Canadian citizen and had to rush thru her US citizenship to compete for the USA in the last olympcis.
It is allowed under the rules so NO it is not unethical. No one is breaking any rules.
So basically you see no point in showing up at all if you can't win?
There are brothers who compete in the nordic combined. One skis for Switzerland, the other for Norway. Both skiied for Switzerland in the last olympics, but Norway has a better team, stronger program, and ha
a better chance of medaling.
I also know someone who was born and grew up in the US and competed in the Olympics for the country from which his parents emigrated. He does track and field.
If the IOC has a problem with this, they should change the rules.
most of the examples that people gave, the person has some connection to the country (lived there or have a family member from there).
In the case of the girl skating for Georgia, she has no connection to the country. This does not really seem right to me.
Yeah, I just read a story about her. I didn't realize that there was no connection. Just that her partner is from Georgia. Weird.
. ... i sort of understand the brother/sister skating for Japan, atleast they have family there. but the little sister skating for Georgia.. that is kinda bothersome.
That's not true. Her father is Georgian.
Where are you getting that information from? Everything I have seen says her father is American.
One article on it:
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=9632164