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Ectopic Pregnancy

I was just wondering if any of you have experienced an ectopic pregnancy- and if so, was the morning after pill (Plan B) taken?
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  • Plan B is only effective within 72 hours of unprotected sex. If you have a confirmed pregnancy, which could be ectopic you must go to the hospital right away. Otherwise you could lose your fallopian tube or worse ... die.

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  • If you think Plan B is going to get rid of an ectopic pregnancy you might just want to find out how your body works, which reproductive organs are which AND how they work.
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  • yes- I have experienced it myself.

    I was just wondering if anyone noticed a connection between the ectopic pregnancy and taking Plan B. I beleive mine could have been due to the pill.

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  • So just to clarify- I know that plan b will not rid an ectopic pregnancy. On the contrary- I believe that if anything, it creates the problem. It makes your uterus an unwelcoming place, so if the egg is already fertilized, its gonna find somewhere else to attatch to. In my case it was my right tube.

    What im asking is, if anyone else has had the same experience with Plan B.

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  • OP, thank you for clairfying. You could have worded your OP better.
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  • PSA: PLAN B DOES NOT WORK IF AN EGG HAS ALREADY BEEN FERTILIZED.

    Get to the emergency room ASAP. 

  • How do you know if you have an ectopic pregnancy? 
  • imageCAvery919:
    How do you know if you have an ectopic pregnancy? 

    Google this for a full list of symptoms. Most likely a + HPT with major lower abdominal pain. Generally symptoms manifest at 4 - 6 weeks after the beginning of your last period.

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  • The embryo will not go swimming around looking for a hospitible environment. Do you think it has a mind of it's own and fins or something?  Also, the pill doesn't make your uterus an inhospitible environment, it prevents ovulation.  Who told you the pill caused ectopic pregnancies?  That person needs a slapping.
  • I think when she said "the pill" she was meaning Plan B....

     

    This whole thread is an exercise in miscommunication, haha!

  • imagelilMRScosta:

    yes- I have experienced it myself.

    I was just wondering if anyone noticed a connection between the ectopic pregnancy and taking Plan B. I beleive mine could have been due to the pill.

    I just read some of the articles on it.  I'm not an expert, but Plan B did not cause your ectopic pregnancy.  You would have had an ectopic pregnancy whether or not you had taken Plan B since Plan B only affects the uterus. 

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  • The fertilized egg uses the sperm tail that's still hanging out of it to swim back up your fallopian tube if your ute is inhospitable due to the pill. Duh.
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  • imagebel138:
    The fertilized egg uses the sperm tail that's still hanging out of it to swim back up your fallopian tube if your ute is inhospitable due to the pill. Duh.

     

    OK, now that's funny!

  • imagedanniebell1021:

    PSA: PLAN B DOES NOT WORK IF AN EGG HAS ALREADY BEEN FERTILIZED.

    Get to the emergency room ASAP. 

    I think you need to read the OPs clarification post.

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  • Plan B isn't perfect...if you miss the time frame that it works during and still take it--it's possible something could happen--it's not infallible
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  • I was directed to this board from another board BUT couldn't help but to comment. You ladies are way off and the OP is correct is asking what she asked.

    -Plan B is not always effective. So, if someone gets pregnant after taking Plan B they have a higher chance of having an Ectopic pregnancy.

    To answer the OP's question. Yes, their is a higher risk of Ectopic pregnancy if you get pregnant on the cycle that you took plan B.

     This is why you shouldn't be seeking medical advice from the internet...LMAO

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  • imageHisWifey82:

    I was directed to this board from another board BUT couldn't help but to comment. You ladies are way off and the OP is correct is asking what she asked.

    -Plan B is not always effective. So, if someone gets pregnant after taking Plan B they have a higher chance of having an Ectopic pregnancy.

    To answer the OP's question. Yes, their is a higher risk of Ectopic pregnancy if you get pregnant on the cycle that you took plan B.

     This is why you shouldn't be seeking medical advice from the internet...LMAO

    Can you explain what the effectiveness of plan B has to do with ectopic pregnancy?  Where are you getting this info?  Are you a medical professional?

  • imageHisWifey82:

    I was directed to this board from another board BUT couldn't help but to comment. You ladies are way off and the OP is correct is asking what she asked.

    -Plan B is not always effective. So, if someone gets pregnant after taking Plan B they have a higher chance of having an Ectopic pregnancy.

    To answer the OP's question. Yes, their is a higher risk of Ectopic pregnancy if you get pregnant on the cycle that you took plan B.

     This is why you shouldn't be seeking medical advice from the internet...LMAO

    http://www.estronaut.com/a/Plan_B_Morning_After_Emergecy_Contraceptive.htm

    I can see why you would think that, but you are wrong.  Reading comprehension fail by you.

  • Hmmm.  I guess you are a nurse.  But still, plan B does not cause ectopic pregnancy. 

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    imageHisWifey82:

    I was directed to this board from another board BUT couldn't help but to comment. You ladies are way off and the OP is correct is asking what she asked.

    -Plan B is not always effective. So, if someone gets pregnant after taking Plan B they have a higher chance of having an Ectopic pregnancy.

    To answer the OP's question. Yes, their is a higher risk of Ectopic pregnancy if you get pregnant on the cycle that you took plan B.

     This is why you shouldn't be seeking medical advice from the internet...LMAO

    http://www.estronaut.com/a/Plan_B_Morning_After_Emergecy_Contraceptive.htm

    I can see why you would think that, but you are wrong.  Reading comprehension fail by you.

    If a woman does become pregnant, it is more likely to be an ectopic pregnancy. Plan B doesn't cause ectopics per se. But since the uterus is not very receptive to the eggs that wind up there, by process of elimination, the tubal pregnancies become a higher percentage of the ones left. A woman should see a doctor right away if suspects she is pregnant, has pelvic pain, or any other concerns about her health. 

    Your fail, actually.  

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  • Why does this seem so hard to understand? Let's use an example (very rough numbers and probably very inaccurate, I didn't google or anything).

    Lets say that 1 out of every 100 pregnancies is tubal. 

    Now lets say that Plan B eliminates 97 out of every 100 pregnancies when taken during the correct time frame. Since Plan B makes the UTERUS (not the tubes) inhospitable, it wouldn't eliminate the tubal pregnancy.

    That makes the rate of tubal pregnancies jumps from 1 in 100 to 1 in 3. That's a much higher rate, but that jump isn't caused by Plan B. It's caused by the fact that Plan B has no impact on tubal pregnancies.

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    Hmmm.  I guess you are a nurse.  But still, plan B does not cause ectopic pregnancy. 

    Dr.Google aka PastryPuff 

    First off, I'm an advanced registered nurse practitioner. Are you a medical professional? No, I didn't think so! 

    Second, I DID NOT say that Plan B causes Ectopic pregnancies. I guess you couldn't comprehend my initial statement so I'll rephrase it for you. If a women has sex, takes plan B and pregnancy occurs anyway this pregnancy is more likely to be an ectopic pregnancy. Furthermore, when you think about the mechanism in which Plan B works (see below) it makes perfect since why Plan B has been associated with a higher rate of ectopic pregnancies. And, yes there are many woman who have ectopic pregnancies without ever taking Plan B. However, my initial statement still holds true....Your probably completely lost by now, so I'll stop Stick out tongue

    Stop trying to be a google MD, you suck at it! Stick to baking cakes and I'll stick to medicine....Wink

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  • imageSareclark:

    Why does this seem so hard to understand? Let's use an example (very rough numbers and probably very inaccurate, I didn't google or anything).

    Lets say that 1 out of every 100 pregnancies is tubal. 

    Now lets say that Plan B eliminates 97 out of every 100 pregnancies when taken during the correct time frame. Since Plan B makes the UTERUS (not the tubes) inhospitable, it wouldn't eliminate the tubal pregnancy.

    That makes the rate of tubal pregnancies jumps from 1 in 100 to 1 in 3. That's a much higher rate, but that jump isn't caused by Plan B. It's caused by the fact that Plan B has no impact on tubal pregnancies.

    FAIL BIG TIME (bold statement) !!!

    Plan B does not eliminate an existing pregnancy period regardless of whether it's in your fallopian tubes or your uterus.

     Plan B does more than make the "uterus inhospitable". It prevents pregnancy by impairing the following processes:

    -Follicle maturation, egg maturation, and the ovulatory process.

    -Sperm migration and function

    -Zygote, morula, and blastocyst development and transport into the fallopian tube and uterine cavity (which is why a woman is more likely to experience an ectopic pregnancy if she gets pregnant during the same cycle she took plan B)...Puffy Pastry your little weak google source even explained that. But being that your a google MD and not a real one you weren't able to comprehend what I said.

    -Development of receptive uterine lining

    -maintenance of necessary hormone levels by the corpus luteum

    Source: Contraceptive Technology. 19th Edition. A credible source, not google...LMAO!!!

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  • imageHisWifey82:
    imagepastrypuff9000:

    Hmmm.  I guess you are a nurse.  But still, plan B does not cause ectopic pregnancy. 

    Dr.Google aka PastryPuff 

    First off, I'm an advanced registered nurse practitioner. Are you a medical professional? No, I didn't think so! 

    Second, I DID NOT say that Plan B causes Ectopic pregnancies. I guess you couldn't comprehend my initial statement so I'll rephrase it for you. If a women has sex, takes plan B and pregnancy occurs anyway this pregnancy is more likely to be an ectopic pregnancy. Furthermore, when you think about the mechanism in which Plan B works (see below) it makes perfect since why Plan B has been associated with a higher rate of ectopic pregnancies. And, yes there are many woman who have ectopic pregnancies without ever taking Plan B. However, my initial statement still holds true....Your probably completely lost by now, so I'll stop Stick out tongue

    Stop trying to be a google MD, you suck at it! Stick to baking cakes and I'll stick to medicine....Wink

    I was still correct, though.  I made an ass out of myself by calling you out about being in the medical field, however everything else I said was correct. But I'm sure my simple mind couldn't possibly comprehend anything someone as smart as yourself would have to say.  I'm not too bright about doing things or thinking in general.  Lucky for me someone took pity on me taught me how to hold a spoon and mix stuff so I can make a modest living with my simple mind making the cakes.Ick!  You are a nurse, not a member of Mensa.

     

  • imageHisWifey82:

    To answer the OP's question. Yes, their is a higher risk of Ectopic pregnancy if you get pregnant on the cycle that you took plan B.

    Wow.  You should probably take-er-easy and should probably get off your high horse as well.  Neato... "advanced" RN.  That sounds advanced.

    Anyway.  Defend the above quoted statement.  I believe it is categorically false.  It would seem to me that if anything, the absolute risk of having an ectopic pregnancy would be the same whether the woman took Plan B during her cycle or not.

    The data appear to back me up: combined data from 5 clinical trials showed the actual rate of ectopic pregnancy in women who had used Plan B to be 1.02%, which is slightly lower than overall national ectopic pregnancy rates (1.24%-1.97%).

    Source: Trussel et al., Ectopic pregnancy following use of progestin-only ECPs, J. Family Planning and Reproductive Health Care, Vol. 29, 2003

    Edited to add:

    This is kind of curious.  It would appear that even a Google MD, as you so kindly put it, would have found more accurate information than what you've given the board.  Go read the the Wikipedia article on ECPs. I know, it's long (UGH, right?!?), but start out with section 1.3 Safety.  The 5th paragraph is the coolest!  You're welcome.  Lifetime learning, and so forth.

  • imageEngineerAaron:
    imageHisWifey82:

    To answer the OP's question. Yes, their is a higher risk of Ectopic pregnancy if you get pregnant on the cycle that you took plan B.

    Wow.  You should probably take-er-easy and should probably get off your high horse as well.  Neato... "advanced" RN.  That sounds advanced.

    Anyway.  Defend the above quoted statement.  I believe it is categorically false.  It would seem to me that if anything, the absolute risk of having an ectopic pregnancy would be the same whether the woman took Plan B during her cycle or not.

    The data appears to back me up: combined data from 5 clinical trials showed the actual rate of ectopic pregnancy in women who had used Plan B to be 1.02%, which is slightly lower than overall national ectopic pregnancy rates (1.24%-1.97%).

    Source: Trussel et al., Ectopic pregnancy following use of progestin-only ECPs, J. Family Planning and Reproductive Health Care, Vol. 29, 2003

    OMG, you told me...NOT Confused 

     I don't need to take anything easy. She asked me if I was a medical professional and I simply told her.

    It's quite laughable that you would try to correct me using a source that is 7 years old. A research article at that. What's the validity of this article? What did the sample poplulation consists of? Was there any bias? Did you find any other articles that came up with the same conclusion? 

    Practice guidelines are not just changed by one research article. If you were in the medical profession and not a google doctor you would realize that new research arises very frequently. There is a lot more that we know now about Plan B than when we first started using it.

    Now why don't you go google how to evaluate a research article Mrs. Know-It-All. Then come back and tell about how your article backed you upStick out tongue

     

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  • imageHisWifey82:

    It's quite laughable that you would try to correct me using a source that is 7 years old. A research article at that. What's the validity of this article? What did the sample poplulation consists of? Was there any bias? Did you find any other articles that came up with the same conclusion?

    Oh boy.  Well, since tooting our own horns seems to be the status quo, I'm an "advanced" engineer and am very smart!  [Insert engineery words].  I'm quite capable of reading a journal article, because I'm an advanced engineer!  That's what we do in engineering school and also in the "advanced" research lab I worked for.  The sample population consisted of 6000 women.  Yes, there are many other publications that came to the same conclusion.  Please see the Wikipedia article on ECPs.


    Practice guidelines are not just changed by one research article. If you were in the medical profession and not a google doctor you would realize that new research arises very frequently. There is a lot more that we know now about Plan B than when we first started using it.

    You've surmised that new research arises frequently.  Captain obvious much?  There does not appear to be any research supporting the assertion using Plan B results in an increased risk for ectopic pregnancy.  Your nursing text book that you cited above for some reason doesn't support this assertion, does it?

     

    Now why don't you go google how to evaluate a research article Mrs. Know-It-All. Then come back and tell about how your article backed you upStick out tongue

    Why don't you provide me with anything that would support what you said.  You have not done that.  Your argument, if I may paraphrase, that you are correct by the very merit of being an "advanced" RN is not very convincing, especially in light of the myriad data that suggests you are wrong.

     

  • From your source ---"The AAP, ACOG, FDA, WHO, RCOG, and experts on emergency contraception have concluded that ECPs, like all other contraceptives, reduce the absolute risk of ectopic pregnancy by preventing pregnancies, and that the best available evidence, obtained from over 7,800 women in randomized controlled trials, indicates there is no increase in the relative risk of ectopic pregnancy in women who become pregnant after using progestin-only ECPs".

    In response to your edit. Wow, are you serious? Reread the bolded parts of the paragraph above. Correct, it does not increase the relative risk of ectopic pregnancy because it usually prevents pregnancy in 97% of woman who take it appropriately. However, if a woman get pregnant during the cycle they took plan B they are still at increased risk for an ectopic pregnancy.

    Your probably still lost...but I have to go to work and practice real medicine. So have find searching all over google to find statements that back you up.

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  • imageHisWifey82:

    Your probably still lost...but I have to go to work and practice real medicine. So have find searching all over google to find statements that back you up.

    Why would you assume I'm lost?

    I understand that if a woman gets pregnant after using Plan B, the probability of it being an ectopic pregnancy is higher than if she were to get pregnant without Plan B.  The reasons for this seem obvious but are also stated in other posts in this thread.  At this point, I believe everyone in this thread gets it.

    However, at the very best, it is misleading to say that women who take Plan B and subsequently get pregnant have an elevated risk of having an ectopic pregnancy.  This could be easily be construed to mean that Plan B itself causes the risk of ectopic pregnancy to increase, i.e. "don't take Plan B because it will give you an ectopic pregnancy!"  You said in a previous post in this thread that "Plan B has been associated with higher rates of ectopic pregnancies."  Again, this is misleading.  As a medical professional, I'm sure you know that with controversial treatments such as Plan B, wording should be chosen very carefully and precisely when giving information to patients.

    Maybe we can we at least agree that it would have been better to say that Plan B does not cause a higher risk of ectopic pregnancy, but since Plan B prevents the majority of non-ectopic pregnancies, if a woman does become pregnant after Plan B (by process of elimination) it will more likely be ectopic.

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