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I love chemists' thoughts about what's eco-friendly.

Tomorrow in my OChem lab we're doing an aromatic iodination of vanillin experiment.  Apparently, the method we're using to add iodine to the vanillin is more green than previous methods.  I'm not sure what they are, but our method wins out for being green because we're using bleach and ethanol.  Confused

Re: I love chemists' thoughts about what's eco-friendly.

  • I used to work in the chemical industry. There are lots of good things that chemistry is doing to help the environment...it just gets such a bad rep.

    It will be interesting to see how your class turns out!

  • imageJen&Joe06:

    I used to work in the chemical industry. There are lots of good things that chemistry is doing to help the environment...it just gets such a bad rep.

    It will be interesting to see how your class turns out!

    Oh, I know they're doing good things!  It just cracks me up that we're doing the "green" version of the experiment and it has tons of nasty chemicals in it.  Wink  At least it will smell fabulous in lab tomorrow.  Big Smile

  • i did that experiment in my ochem class. it was a couple of years ago and i don't remember what chemicals we used. it did smell good though.
    June 13, 2009 ~ Ocho Rios, Jamaica
  • I don't remember if we did that one in my OChem lab. I'd rather use bleach and ethanol than some of the incredibly toxic chemicals we used.
  • i've purposely blocked out a lot of OChem memories
  • image*speedracer*:
    i've purposely blocked out a lot of OChem memories

    I'm trying!  In 9 weeks I'll have blocked everything forever!

  • please 'splain me what an aromatic iodination of vanillin is! I'm getting a very confusing gist!
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  • Aromatic compounds are ones that have a ring structure with alternating single and double bonds (like a benzene ring).  There are other requirements for a compound to be aromatic, but I don't remember them right now.  Wink  They're super stable, but not necessarily smelly.

    Iodination means you add an iodine to a compound.  In this case, iodine gets added to vanillin.  

    Vanillin is a synthetic compound that smells and tastes like real vanilla.

    That's all.  : )

     

  • imageJen&Joe06:
    Geeked

    LOL, did I explain it right?

    I really love OChem sometimes, but other times it kicks my booty.  I'm OK with the aromaticity stuff we've been doing.  And I'd run away with nomenclature if I wasn't already happily married.  I love rules that are consistent.  : )

  • But why? What's the point you are learning?
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  • imageJeff & Em:

    imageJen&Joe06:
    Geeked

    LOL, did I explain it right?

    I have no clue! I never took O-chem (Went to school for Environment). But it sounded all sciency and good!

  • imageAlisha_A:
    But why? What's the point you are learning?

    I'm not entirely sure, honestly.  We're learning about how different functional groups on rings can direct where new groups (the iodine) go when they join the ring.  So it had something to do with that, but there didn't really seem to be a purpose other than doing the experiment and doing it in a greenish method.  Normally there's a better purpose behind it.

    http://tinyurl.com/vanillinlab

  • Darn... I was hoping to learn some neat fact about the use of iodined vanillin. Thanks though!
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  • imageAlisha_A:
    Darn... I was hoping to learn some neat fact about the use of iodined vanillin. Thanks though!

    Hmmm . . . maybe it could be used in place of iodized salt?  Big Smile

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